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Ascended and Untrained
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:02 am
by Brigon
I suggested this somewere before but I'm going to do it again, I would like to see the advanced races(System Lord, Tollah, Ancient, NanoTiMaster) not able to recieve untrained units.
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:20 am
by Sleipnir
I suggested to forum to make them unable to receive troops while on PPT, actually. This would prevent them from aqcuiring massive naq while on that initial PPT, enough to become pretty much invulnerable. Instead, they would be able to get the troops back at the time when they became vulnerable to attack, so their growth could at least be kept in check by others. However, this would involve changing the rules for everyone because of the few people that actually have such quantities of troops. Instead, the current solution was chosen. To promote reascension, and thereby depleting the resources. And be honest, some of these people have been working their butts off since februari to achieve what they've achieved, I think it's only fair that they get something in return.
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:23 am
by Brigon
Then let them get it all in one go, increase the value of uu.
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:26 pm
by Elemental_FIRE
Anyways... ascension was changed to drain off our untrained troops anyways. For eample if you have a unit production of 2k/day, you lose about 70k for ascension. That is just me. I'm laughing at people who didn't realize it in time and went to 10k/day.
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:29 pm
by god
Elemental_FIRE wrote:Anyways... ascension was changed to drain off our untrained troops anyways. For eample if you have a unit production of 2k/day, you lose about 70k for ascension. That is just me. I'm laughing at people who didn't realize it in time and went to 10k/day.
why? it only takes people with UP of 10k a week to generate what it cost you to ascend... it took you a month... obvioulsy it costs them more, but wheter you want to admit it or not, UP is still what makes the universe go round
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:38 pm
by Sleipnir
god wrote:Elemental_FIRE wrote:Anyways... ascension was changed to drain off our untrained troops anyways. For eample if you have a unit production of 2k/day, you lose about 70k for ascension. That is just me. I'm laughing at people who didn't realize it in time and went to 10k/day.
why? it only takes people with UP of 10k a week to generate what it cost you to ascend... it took you a month... obvioulsy it costs them more, but wheter you want to admit it or not, UP is still what makes the universe go round
Actually it costs everyone 35 days to generate the amount of units needed for ascension, because the amount is based upon unit production.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:55 am
by daivahataka
I'd say that ascended accounts should either be unable to recieve troops/naq or receive a increasing cost to each proportional to the number of times that they've ascended.
If we went with the first then there'd no longer be any need for subsequent ascentions to cost more since ascention would still require a lot of work each time, the second option however I feel would still necessitate an increase in ascention requirements for each time you ascend.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:15 am
by Unknown
The thing is though that if this was inplemented now people that have been doing it would have an advantage to those who haven't had the chance.....
And so the margin would remain bigger.
Is that what you would want?
Hell if i had reascended a few times already i would love this to come in as i wouldn't be caught for ages! lol
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:52 am
by daivahataka
So the loophole should be left open just because others have previously abused it? I think it should be closed ASAP, fair enough there'll be some who've benefitted from the loophole but it would be unfair to go and penalise them for something which has never been declared illegal in the game. And the sooner it's closed the less of a permenant top 100 will be established. The real test of skill will be can we catch up on these people.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:54 am
by Unknown
LOL - that is just making it no better? you are penalising the people that havent had the chance to exploit it aswell! the rich getting richer ..........
Do you not see
It should be just left
It wouldn't make any difference.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:07 am
by daivahataka
Ireland had a problem until recently whereby the constitution said that anyone who gave birth in Ireland would be granted citizenship, so we had many refugees and such coming to the country while pregnent in the hopes of giving birth and getting their citizenship. This was not the intent, rather it was to do with the north-south divide here, but as a result of this loophole many people who had no real right to citizenship were given it. As a result these people were then free to travel and work within the EU which started drawing complaints from Britain, who many of these people were then moving on to. This loophole was closed, do you feel it should have been left open?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:10 am
by Unknown
LIFE..............GAME?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:13 am
by Unknown
you can draw comparision to every angle of life for every side of the argument... but it still doesn't stop the fact that it would be unfair on others not to stop it.
Leave it as it is and just work a little harder!
Things don't come easy
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:18 am
by daivahataka
Unknown wrote:Things don't come easy
They do if you choose to abuse this loophole.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:23 am
by Unknown
It's not abuse... its the game
if you are doing well everyone seems to brand you as abusing things!
if everyone got there way we would all be the same with the same resources etc....