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3 trill cost would mean that only a very few can buy it... the market-made ones would still be taken... only this time by the medium-sized players, instead of the largest ones...

well its a good idea its somethign that could be done be in proportion to size & ascended lvl with things removed from ascension as well as main to compensate for the cost of building obviously the bigger wil have to pay a hell of a lot more

Pef wrote:The main benefit goes for the small ppl

Pef wrote:To make this a worthy effort i think a decent 3 tril cost

small people wont be able to afford 3trill...so it wont help them at all... prehaps if the price is tied in with ascended level/army size

EDIT: i think frazz just said what i just said, just in slightly different words

Hello
Hmm what are middle players 50M army? if not 3 trilions is way to much i dont know how many time should pass to get so much , to many for me but the proposal is Good.
Regards

if it goes to army size i just send my army to another and i can buy cheap. must be some other way to do that but in start its a good proposal.

make it so that the extra bonus is random, then its ok

i like your suggestion alot

3 tril is too much though i think, perhaps 1.5 - 2 tril. the extra stat shouldn't be random, you should be able to choose it, but not choose the same as the current stat, so you can't have UP/UP etc.

I like the idea.

I agree with the flat cost thats the same as everyone. Though, I still think it should be less than 3 tril, maybe half that amount would seem about right.

You should be able to choose what bonus you want, but not the same bonus. So you can't make UP/UP.

The new starting bonus should be 0.

Advantages
Smaller players would be able to keep dual planets easier.
Bigger players don't have to worry about abandoning a planet they already spent a lot of naq on to get a dual.

Disadvantages,
Duals will become more common, and I think Forum wanted them to be a rarity.

Pef wrote:if a slot price is 3 tril , duals wont be quite so common
seems we agree on main points tactical co.

ok , to respond to ppl who pester me on MSN with 1 tril-2tril cost ...
you want this perk now and dont think of consequesces ...
u pay 1 tril for slot ... 2 hrs later u lose the planet ..

no babe , first u pay 5 tril for a decent defence ,some more to build the main bonus , then u think of a new slot.

excatly. See, you already have to pay alot to defend it, of course, after everyone purchases theirs you won't need as much defense. 1-2 tril naq is still a hefty price to pay. Not to mention thats a lot of up front investment, and you still have no return on it because the stat is 0, so you have to spend a ton of naq on that aswell.

Im undecided on this one, yes it could be good, but it could also be bad, and im sure there are many potential reasons that havent crossed my mind yet.

1) Small players get to keep thier planets: maybe, it is cheaper to steal a duel planet of the type you want from a small player, and put a decent defence on it, than it is to spend 3trill up front to get the extra stat, just takes some searching.

2) yes thats the "average" price of a dual planet, but part of the price for upgrading to dual planets is getting rid of those you may or may not have pured naq into, to gain a potential better bonus in the future.

3) Small players cant afford it, and will rarely come across dual planets, and there fore wont really be in much of a better position as they are currently while those who are 75mill+ and make over 1trill per PPT at least, can just chuck an extra stat on thier planets right off the bat and jump further ahead.

while im not trying to penalize large players for getting themselves to where they are, such an advantage may be TO much, in such a short time.

Also, on a more positive side, about the random/chosen stat for the planet, what if to CHOOSE the stat you want, it was say, the 3trill, but you could pay 1 trill for a random one, for those who dont mind overly which stat they get, and cant quite afford the 3trill?

err no cause you would see large players have 10 UP/Attack planets or 10 UP/Income planets

any way small players would not be able to pay for it or keep them if they did any way

If you want a dual planet, you can just hire a planet masser to break the defense for you and swipe it. Put a ton of defense into it and hunker down waiting for the eventual retaliation.

JediMasterX has (had) a post in the black market about it, I believe. I can break the defense also, just get the owner to farm me for naq and I'll break it for free.

Pef wrote:*slaps Robin over hands* slow on the coke ,leave the attack planet button alone.
bad boy .. thats exactly what this is trying to avoid .. massing planets and stealing them from other players .. , build your own double.

Clearly, I must have missed the spirit of your message.

This is a bad idea and a very hypocritical post ...... this system will only help the big players that can have an assortment of income+up, income+attack, up+attack planets .... on planets they have already invested tril of naq in defenses.

The cost of what's invested in their own planets that they'll have to abandon plus the cost of defenses on the dual planets that can be stolen from others is larger then 3 tril ... much larger.

The current system helps the smart smaller-medium players .... if they can't keep their duals under mpdsd (they can't defend them properly for sure) they can sell them and get a few mil UUs for that ..... if a small player uses his 3 MTs and it's lucky he can have an army 2-3 times bigger by selling it.

Pef wrote:@Nostradamus .. pls work your way past 1mil size before u hypocrite me
atm u arent even a small player .. they have 1mil+ size
and as u seem to be very content with your status , maybe u have too many planets ...

FYI: Nostradamus on the forums isn't Nostradamus in game