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20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:53 am
by GeneralChaos
So now that the number of times you can ascend has went from 10 to 20, are we now going to see a way to get rid of lifers, else by the time you get to 20 ascensions you may not have a main account left to play because its all in lifers.

Maybe on each ascension you lose 20-50% of lifers.

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:01 am
by Neimenljivi
I've already suggested that you wouldn't have to untrain miners and send them to someone else when u ascend, you'd just untrain as much miners as u need and ascension would take ONLY untrained units (UU) and naq on hand (not the naq u have in bank aswell)

~N

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:33 pm
by goodie
This is part of the trade of, part of the game. Who can keep their miner count down while ascending?

Who cares about having a 75mil army size when 74.5mil of them are lifers?

-Goodie

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:08 pm
by Ergon
goodie wrote:This is part of the trade of, part of the game. Who can keep their miner count down while ascending?

Who cares about having a 75mil army size when 74.5mil of them are lifers?

-Goodie



errr I would because then you wont be able to ascend again!

unless the limit is lifted lol

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:30 pm
by Timmy
you could still ascend with 75mil lifers if you planned it right

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:52 pm
by Ergon
Timmy wrote:you could still ascend with 75mil lifers if you planned it right


much more effort thou

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:22 am
by Mukasa
only effort would be getting u UP up so you would get enough uu...but that isn't so hard when u have 75m lifers....

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:11 am
by GeneralChaos
There needs to be a way to kill or remove them, even if at ascention you lose 20-50% of them or they can could as 50% of the UU required to ascend, else come 20 ascensions the amount of UU that are as lifers will make your account useless.

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:30 am
by Munchy
My idea has always been for an additional market turn option. Say 5% lifers to miners for 3 mt's, or 1% per mt. Or 10% lifers destroyed for 3 mt. Something along those lines.

As people mentioned, if you had 75 mil lifers...things would be difficult when ascending, but not impossible. The hardest thing would be rebuilding defense and covert without uu's. What you would have to do would be to send a few tril naq away, and not use any ppt's that week, plus ascend on a friday night, and also have some good UP planets(none of this is that hard if you have 75 mil miners/lifers). Then after you ascend pump up your raw up to twice your planets and ride a 8 day ppt. With any luck that would get enough uu's(and naq) to get a decent start. Given, this would be a pain in the but, but it is doable.

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:39 am
by High Empty
Did i miss something?

i never understood why people care if they have lifers or not, all it is is imcome that your never going to lose the ablilty to make.

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:01 am
by blahh
when your account has nothing but lifers... its good only for one thing, being a nice farm, and thats about it, no matter what up you have you ll probably train it for def so you dont get farmed, and ppl will kill it a away :D so ye only lifers suck, i think admin made some lifers kamikaze misions ith the new update too :)

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:10 am
by Nostradamus
blahh wrote:when your account has nothing but lifers... its good only for one thing, being a nice farm, and thats about it, no matter what up you have you ll probably train it for def so you dont get farmed, and ppl will kill it a away :D so ye only lifers suck, i think admin made some lifers kamikaze misions ith the new update too :)


Exactly ..... let's say you have 1 mil total UP, you can get a good defense and some spies after ascending if you stay 6 or more days on PPT .... but if you are massed and ACed after ...... you wont have PPT for a while and in that time alot of farmers will notice you ..... it's like you were on the see and hurt ... you bleed and the sharks attacks you, you can stop the bleeding for a while but when you can't more sharks will appear ..... so as a conclusion : you won't like the result ;)

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:01 am
by Tanith

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:01 am
by Mojo Rising
Who has 75 million lifers? Seriously, I mean, I have ascended 7 times and I only have around 26 million lifers. I am pretty sure that I COULD ascend possibly three or four more times without fear of getting too many lifers.

Re: 20 Ascensions and lifers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:34 am
by Manetheren
I liked it better when all the lifers died when you ascended.