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alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:48 am
by Forum
A new attack/spy type will be launched whereby you can pull your lifers out of the mines, and send them on a suicide mission into enemy lands...
many will jump at the opportunity of escape from their life sentence in the mines...even if leaving the mines means leaving this life...

The proposed action is that 5 lifers can eliminate 1 anti-covert unit (lifers are weaker due to their life of hard labour), destroying themselves in the process...
Your attack power still must be within 20% of your enemy defense power (to act as a diversion only, the 2 armies do not fight) in order to get the lifers into enemy lands.

Once in, they are unstoppable...

this will go in soon, as it ties to the updates in ascension ... plus of course allows people to lose their lifers before that is all the realm has for a population :)

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:49 am
by High Archon
Sounds good to me.

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:53 am
by generaloneill
Have to disagree. All the multies will then be able to use their lifers (as they cant pass them on to the feeder account. Also al the players who have ever quit will mass just for the hell of it.

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:52 am
by KGC
generaloneill wrote:Have to disagree. All the multies will then be able to use their lifers (as they cant pass them on to the feeder account. Also al the players who have ever quit will mass just for the hell of it.

Easy solution would be to not keep your AC guys trained. Problem solved

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:06 pm
by GeneralChaos
Nice update admin, long time needed, good call.

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:12 pm
by Forum
even if a user had > 1 account, they could not use > 1 account to attack the same person... the game checks stop that...
and to make updates based solely on whether it can be abused...i'd have to take out attacking, SS functions, spying, raiding, market, etc etc...

additionally - lifers are a 'limited' or rare resource...even if someone did mass someone else for all they could, it would be a long time before they could do it again :) so after maybe an initial rush of activity, i see this becoming just one more war tactic....at a high cost...

we do our best to stop the abusers, and make the updates that benefit the 'real' game play/players....

i hope this is one of those updates :)

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:09 pm
by GeneralChaos
Aslong as it only goes Lifers to attack Anti-Covert, if you make it that attacking with Anti Covert killed Covert agents and Lifers, that would be bad.

But like it is now, it gives the people who want to lower there lifer count a way to do so, and those who want to kill AC a way to do so aswell.

Like i said Good Call.

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:39 pm
by Munchy
Another excellent update(or soon to be anyway). Just make it out of the way where we click most please, otherwise it will be easy to make huge mistakes. :lol:

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:12 pm
by renegadze
Instead of a 5.1 ratio something like 2.1 would be better.........no one in their right mind will kill 5mil units killing 1 mil :?

even in war you would not go after the AC with that much damage being done to yourself.....

right idea....but would make a pointless update

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:31 pm
by vinny d
I have to agree with renegadze. If the ratio was lower like 2:1 it would be used much more. At a 5 to 1 ratio I believe that it will just make it a waste of your time coding something that will not be used often. However the principle behind this update is great, Great work!

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:36 pm
by Tauriman77
i say 3:1 would be the best ratio, 5:1 is a little much, and 2:1 would just let the big guys dominate the game even more (not tht thats a bad thing but the losses would be pretty small for them) so id say 3:1

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:31 pm
by High Archon
yeah that sounds about right 3-1

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:09 pm
by stratigize
i agree 3:1 is a good ratio for both big and small players

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:59 pm
by doc holliday
3:1 here too!

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:56 am
by unification
5:1 is good!