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what should be the minimum 'APP per account' with the new ascension server setup?
i am not going to change the max. i am not going to change the rules. i am not going to change the goal...
what i am willing to do (now) is alter the minimum APP each player gets... it WAS 100,000 minimum, 5mil max, based on last ascension.
it fits with the goals of the server to increase hte minimum..what should the minimum be (no matter what last ascension was, no matter when it was...)

100k (what i did)
500k
1mil
2mil

the max is 5mil, so i will not go higher... those that ascended with more should get more...

leave the way it is now

Minimum should be about 2-3 million.

100,000 was way too low, it completely screwed people like me who ascended early but were not like certain players who already had multi-millions of UU and Naq to spend on repeated fast ascensions. I had to work up to ascension level, which required much planning and substantional sacrifice.

Which I then saw blown away by people buying DMU, or getting much more powerful ascensions than I ever did with comparitively less sacrifice than mine.

I've read how some people were complaining because other people caught up to them with their 5-10 million planets per day.

There is a group in the middle which did not ascend early enough and exploit the game to gain such huge raw stats before the new updates, and did not ascend late enough to have ascended with massively increased levels which were thusly given another shot.

Some people already had millions of planets per day. They claim to be horribly put out, but in reality they are not. They are still on top, and are still the biggest in the game. Maybe if they had not been selling DMU to people they might be in a stronger position. They may not have gotten much help from the new updates, but the updates simply can help people catch up to them, but not really do much to their current accounts.

Some people had not much, but the new updates and their last ascension being huge enabled them to catch up by their last ascension getting them to over 500 or more in charimsa. They got helped by buying DMU, got helped by getting much bigger ascensions in the recent past, and just got another huge boost from the new updates.

People like me got screwed because we never had the chance to get millions of planets per day, and our ascensions were so long ago we managed to get in the 150-200 range in charisma, which meant we get stuck with a horribly tiny planet ratio of like 50k a day compared to the first 2 groups, who either started with huge amounts, or ended up getting them because they were lucky enough to ascend recently.

If I had ascended in the last month or 2, I'd have gotten something around 3,500,800,000 ascended life force to spend on upgrades in the recent update.

The update, based on my last ascension years ago, I got the minimum 100k, which gave me 120,200,000 life force. The difference is probably worth 200-400 levels in charisma.

Thanks, that really helps me catch up.

I got 350k APP, and I worked very hard for them. But there are others who ascended to LG+1 with minimum(<100k APP) and if this continues they will get 1mil APP.

what happens now: they are stronger than I am in main ,but now they will get simmilar powerlevels in ascension.

To be honest I m against any kind of bonus APP, so I ll stick to the minimum (100k)

2-3m I would say.

2 - 3mil. The point was they did ascend with more but relativly they ascended with the same amount as loads of other people, who simply took the plunge before them and ascended earlier and are now punished for it.



But really with no rollback and the max changed (has been donn before, first day of ascended), all 1mil APP min will do is help the guys who did do small ascensions, raising it to 1mil isnt going to help the older players get their place back...

If a chance for a rollback was done.. it could be simply solved by using a multiplier based on the date of your lasdt ascension, times the APP that you got for it. Then you could keep your 100k caps afor the newer players who simply did not ascend with enough.and your 6mil caps for people who recently ascended. Problem solved.

Hell if ya want another solution, roll it back, up teh min APP amount to 1mil, and chang ethe converstion rate. Im convinced the conversion rate causes 99% of the trouble because people got way too much, and now a single ascension can put you in the lead.

Then theres a simple choice, newer players complaining they lost a few days work, or older players quitting because they lost a few years of work.

i think 1mil extra is reasonable, i had 2 mil from about my last 2 ascensions and that was a bit extreme.

increasing the minimum helps players with medium sized accounts, because they have the planets but can't afford to buy the techs, the big players already have them, the little players need planets so the extra APP won't do too much for them.

I'm a small player, but i think the medium sized accounts got a raw deal from this update so i say give everyone 1mil AP.

i also say 2-3m.

It still rewards ppl that did HUGE ascensions last time. but it doesnt stuff up those that, for whatever reason, did a small ascension last time.

IF everybody had known for a long time that this was going to happen, and could prepare accordingly then it would be fair to just have it has the last ascension BUT nobody knew this was happening so it was just random luck as to who got rewarded and who didnt.

I am an AG and my last ascension was really really BAD. i did some nice ascensions in earlier days, but i speed ascended the last 5. Im not saying i should be rewarded for rushing my ascensions, but i shouldnt be punished just because my most recent one was so bad.

With the huge conversion rates, a 4.9mil APP possible difference is INSANE. It means a prior that did 1 good ascension can be almost instantly above me.

I am glad you are considering changing this. thankyou.

EDIT - although i would still be happy(er) if it was put at 1mil min

i'd say 2-3mil

I personally would say higher than the 100k...

thats what I got but I forgot my last ascension (to LG+1) was just before the CoP/CiA war so I ascended that last one quickly so I got the larger bonus to do more damage etc.... so I got the lowest but my other ascensions were far stronger

So I'd like it nearer to 1 mill minimum... 5 mill max

TheRook

i can understand the problem that is being faced here.
People who did ascensions with < 100k APP for 2 totally different reasons.
i dont think that it should not be higher than 1 mil. that would over benefit quick ascenders, but to be much lower as it is now, gives a huge disadvantage to those who have been playing the game for a long time.
so to me 1 million seems like a good compromise.

but this will need to be changed fairly soon (next 24h) as otherwise people already have a big advantage

do I understad this right,
lets say 1m APP would win
if I'd ascend with 100k APP... then I'd get 1m APP? or the 100k + 1m APP?

I'd find the 2nd optino better

If we r talking about how many LF should we get after the updates went out (only 1 lf bonus, then I'd say 1m)

Neimenljivi wrote:Leave it as it is...those who will ascend with minimum will get less on ascended - it's their choise with how much they want to get on ascended...

u havent even read anything have you... its not a choice at all