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Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:49 pm
by Rich™
Yeap i agree, i've been at both ends of a knife, still didnt sign it though, wont change anything, make knifes illegal? impossible, and people who use them dont care or will use something else.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:06 pm
by Mystake
In all fairness to the topic of banning Knives,
banning a knife is like car locks... locking your car only keeps the honest people honest.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:09 pm
by Hansbrough
dude, you're in the US so what are you blathering about -- you weren't even addressed to answer the thread.
Furthermore if you wish to discuss it, then it does become political.
Honestly all I see here is someone who has made a post about something that matters to him, just let it go mate; it's not your culture for you to pass judgement upon.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:16 pm
by Hansbrough
Tok`ra wrote:Taxonomist3 wrote:dude, you're in the US so what are you blathering about -- you weren't even addressed to answer the thread.
Furthermore if you wish to discuss it, then it does become political.
Honestly all I see here is someone who has made a post about something that matters to him, just let it go mate; it's not your culture for you to pass judgement upon.
Its a fourm I use that its on tho, therefore I will pass judgement.
Mods enforce rules on users, but only mods get exceptions to the rules ?
Thats how this looks.
yeah it does... they're like policemen who get to speed when warranted, so let it go or don't... for some reason I think I'm trying to get you to NOT get yourself ban -- what an idiot I'm being... I shall let you finish your work.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:19 pm
by mondomadmun
in all fairness, i think Tok'ra has a point about it being on a forum. I didn't see him passing any judgment on anyone but the forum moderators making a decision he doesn't agree with. The forum is here for people to have their say and discuss things, and I see some people despise Tok'ra for it, but it is a valuable part of any community to have free speech.
My condolences for person who lost their brother, nothing will bring them back - and I still find it hard to deal with the losses I have experienced many years ago.
I would like to quote an Anarchist by the name of Edmund Hennessey to convey my views on the idea of introducing a "Knife Ban" however:
What good are laws? the good people don't need 'em and the bad people don't obey them
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:35 pm
by Hansbrough
In all fairness I think you've confused why people despise Tok'ra with what he says versus what he's trying to do in getting people riled up over an aspect of an issue that's been brought up, and not actually deal with the issue in what it stands for. On that note I won't hide that I'm about as politically liberal as one can get too.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:59 pm
by killtacular
Your inconsiderate about peoples feelings . Your a class A JERK. Who thinks that hey look at me I got something smart to say. If it was 6 to 8 months ago I probably would have backed you. But really no one gives a crap what every little thought in that big head of yours is.
You were BANNED for a reason 2x if Im not mistaken and it was the biggest mistake ever made by any mod letting you back.
Heres a political agenda for you : BAN TOK'RA AGAIN
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:11 pm
by Dagr
I'm sure he and all of us feel sorry for the loss, but that doesn't give reason for a petition about an issue in Britain to be in our SGW General section.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:22 pm
by killtacular
A simple pm to a mod would have been sufficient. And then Jason has the final say. Im quite sure the mod probably asked jason if it was ok to be put up anyways.
Couldn't do that had to take a jab at him saying theres nothing he can do about the knives. He probably cant but why kick someone when there down? Words of encouragement should be given and the only thing said. But tok'ra doesn't have that kind of descency.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:28 pm
by Dagr
If you look at Tok`ra's first post in the thread he does give his sympathy, your first post in the thread was nothing but complaining about him posting. After that he simply asks the question why is this a sticky in general, then gives his opinion on the situation. I really find it difficult to see the disrespect in the thread.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:03 pm
by killtacular
That said, I dont see how you CAN prevent criminals from using knives. Theyre household items, every kitchen has them.
All that could be done is to make more things illegal, and in the end the only ones with them will be the criminals who dont care if there is a ban on knives.
this is what tokra said.
Obviously the guy is trying heal trying to do something he feels might do some good. If it does or doesn't it is not for tok'ra to say and there isn't anything he can do about it.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:07 pm
by Apadizamek
Tok'ra admin gave you his answer, its in my sig.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:41 am
by Mordack
jreider014 wrote:I'm sure he and all of us feel sorry for the loss, but that doesn't give reason for a petition about an issue in Britain to be in our SGW General section.
Agreed.
I'm sorry, but you can't just tac a tragedy onto the side of a political issue and expect it not to be considered a political issue anymore. If people raise controversial issues, in whatever circumstances, then they should be prepared to deal with the ensuing debate/discussion.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:27 am
by [GM]FreeSpirit
Tok`ra wrote:Mordack wrote:jreider014 wrote:I'm sure he and all of us feel sorry for the loss, but that doesn't give reason for a petition about an issue in Britain to be in our SGW General section.
Agreed.
I'm sorry, but you can't just tac a tragedy onto the side of a political issue and expect it not to be considered a political issue anymore. If people raise controversial issues, in whatever circumstances, then they should be prepared to deal with the ensuing debate/discussion.
Unless theyre a mod apparently.
Tok'ra you reported that post to me and i told you on msn that i woudnt move it untill i had spoken woth Forum he then replied in the topic. As you are visitng his house stick to his saying as hes the chief here and his word is final.
Re: Double Standards ?
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:15 pm
by Apadizamek
Tok`ra wrote:I guess mods get special privliges.
ya think!?
of course they get them, their staff members. Guess what else! they can delete posts, see your ip and even suspend you!