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To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:32 pm
by Giovanni
I am reading allot of complaints about the Caps..

The original cap of 50 mil was introduced ages & ages ago when JUAN was dominating with his army, they where set for people to catch up and well... they did.

Now just a few quotes here:
geisha wrote:The caps need to be raised. The whole point was to give smaller players a chance to catch up.

Fact is they did catch up
Fact is the game has evolved a lot since the caps were put in place
Fact is the average army sizes are a lot bigger now

So yes, it must be frustrating as hell for someone like Corkscrew who already was at the limit when that update came out.



geisha wrote:personally I think main was ok with the plague kicking in at 100 mill. That new update really only makes it boring as everyone is going to end up at the same size.


viewtopic.php?f=101&t=94517&p=1094414#p1094414

Now this is only an example..( maybe not the best but still ) not trying to aim at an certain person.

But what the hell ? make up your minds already! What do you guys want ?
The sgw economics have been changed by this update ( obviously ) but thats just part of the game and i am pretty sure once this massive raiding fest and the buying is over, prices will go to normal again whatever is called normal.

And then the raiding part, personally raiding was a great update for lower people to catch up at an good speed and it still is..
How boring would this game be if you only had UP to rely on, i see people writing: Oh lets remove in game market oh lets scrap raiding..

I ask you all, WHY This game would be dead if you only had UP to live on and perhaps buy some UU just amagin what the UU rate would be like then!
And still you have big players buying big amounts creating high prices

Personally i say even though sometimes i have to get used to it, updates are good.
If you want to play an sgw game that is only based on up go play Q

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:39 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Problem of this community is that a lot of people do not really know what they want. Update was not released when they asked - people whine. Update they wanted was already released - they whine. People really, give admin a break.



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:43 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Tok`ra wrote:The problem is the way admin does it, major updates are done with no warning, and at times updates are not even documented at all.

Everyone knew the cap update was coming...



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:53 pm
by *~Starry~*
Really? Quantum is based on UP?

I thought Quantum was how much real $$ you invested...

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:56 pm
by Trife
Tok`ra wrote:The problem is the way admin does it, major updates are done with no warning, and at times updates are not even documented at all.


Boooooo hooooo.

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:06 pm
by Trife
Tok`ra wrote:
Trife wrote:
Tok`ra wrote:The problem is the way admin does it, major updates are done with no warning, and at times updates are not even documented at all.


Boooooo hooooo.



The problem is also trolls like you, and the lazy mods that do nothing to stop them, as well as alliances like DD that protect such members when they get what they deserve.


Tok'ra just called ME a troll. LULUL u r makin me larf

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:07 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Tok`ra wrote:People knew it was coming............ just like they 'knew' decension was coming in the year+ it took fourm to implement it.

The main problem however is raiding, it has ruined the game (that along with the unlimited AT avalible)

I'll tell you what's main problem - whinners who complain all the time, no matter what's happening.

And as for raiding and AT's - it did not ruin the game, in fact the game would be so boring and slow if there was limit to AT's...



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:08 pm
by Mukasa
Giovanni wrote:I am reading allot of complaints about the Caps..

The original cap of 50 mil was introduced ages & ages ago when JUAN was dominating with his army, they where set for people to catch up and well... they did.

Now just a few quotes here:
geisha wrote:The caps need to be raised. The whole point was to give smaller players a chance to catch up.

Fact is they did catch up
Fact is the game has evolved a lot since the caps were put in place
Fact is the average army sizes are a lot bigger now

So yes, it must be frustrating as hell for someone like Corkscrew who already was at the limit when that update came out.



geisha wrote:personally I think main was ok with the plague kicking in at 100 mill. That new update really only makes it boring as everyone is going to end up at the same size.


viewtopic.php?f=101&t=94517&p=1094414#p1094414

Now this is only an example..( maybe not the best but still ) not trying to aim at an certain person.

But what the hell ? make up your minds already! What do you guys want ?
The sgw economics have been changed by this update ( obviously ) but thats just part of the game and i am pretty sure once this massive raiding fest and the buying is over, prices will go to normal again whatever is called normal.

And then the raiding part, personally raiding was a great update for lower people to catch up at an good speed and it still is..
How boring would this game be if you only had UP to rely on, i see people writing: Oh lets remove in game market oh lets scrap raiding..

I ask you all, WHY This game would be dead if you only had UP to live on and perhaps buy some UU just amagin what the UU rate would be like then!
And still you have big players buying big amounts creating high prices

Personally i say even though sometimes i have to get used to it, updates are good.
If you want to play an sgw game that is only based on up go play Q



WORD!

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:11 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Tok`ra wrote:[You played the game before there were the current unlimited ATs, as I recall ;) .

Yes, I did. That's why I can say that the game is better fun now. More dynamic, fast.



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:14 pm
by geisha
Giovanni wrote:
geisha wrote:The caps need to be raised. The whole point was to give smaller players a chance to catch up.

Fact is they did catch up
Fact is the game has evolved a lot since the caps were put in place
Fact is the average army sizes are a lot bigger now

So yes, it must be frustrating as hell for someone like Corkscrew who already was at the limit when that update came out.



geisha wrote:personally I think main was ok with the plague kicking in at 100 mill. That new update really only makes it boring as everyone is going to end up at the same size.


viewtopic.php?f=101&t=94517&p=1094414#p1094414

Now this is only an example..( maybe not the best but still ) not trying to aim at an certain person.



Well, I still stand for both of these statements. The caps were holding the big ones back and the smaller ones could catch up big time. So of course everyone thought the caps should be raised eventually. But look HOW it's been done now. It screws over the big players again because the new plague literally makes it impossible for them to grow. With the old cap all you needed was to make sure that your UP is higher than 100k a day and the rest was profit, now it's completely different. Ask one of the big ones how much they are losing.

So yes, the caps were unfair in the first place but looking at that update now, I'd rather take the old caps back.

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:17 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Tok`ra wrote:its hardly more dynamic, just a clickfest.

Tok´ra, why don't you make your own game? I am sure your game would be exactly the way you liked, you could make your own rules and you would stop whinning... :)

And if actually some players would play your game, you'd see how great is to hear people just whine how crappy you are, despite of time you spent on making the game. A lot of people are unable to realize that admin cares for this game and constant whinning only decreases his motivation to do something for this community.



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:18 pm
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:
Tok`ra wrote:its hardly more dynamic, just a clickfest.

Tok´ra, why don't you make your own game? I am sure your game would be exactly the way you liked, you could make your own rules and you would stop whinning... :)

And if actually some players would play your game, you'd see how great is to hear people just whine how crappy you are, despite of time you spent on making the game. A lot of people are unable to realize that admin cares for this game and constant whinning only decreases his motivation to do something for this community.

Teal'auc


tokra werent u renowned for massing MS?
in other words clickfest CIA/cop war

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:27 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Tok´ra, please make your own server and stop complaining here all the time... arguing with you about something is like talking to deaf ears sometimes. You can't blame people for being pissed off at you, as you always repeat your opinions without accepting someone elses' opinions.



Teal'auc

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:46 pm
by Cole
Starry~* wrote:Really? Quantum is based on UP?

I thought Quantum was how much real $$ you invested...

You answered in your post to your question (bolded parts).
I invested zero € in Quantum, and in THIS wave, I'm doing well for someone who didn't have YET a SINGLE PPT (yep ME withOUT a ppt!)

Re: To all cap complaints

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:20 pm
by [BERSERKER]
I like the caps before and dont like them now...
Guess my opinion is firm