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Merge the two servers.

CS merges with MS
Undeveloped planets become UU
Resource planets become miners
Regular military planets become regular soldiers
Super military systems become 5 super soldiers
Covert planets become covert operatives
Assassin planets become anti-covert operatives
Cosmic Exploration fleets become UP
Charisma affects UP like it does in ascension (no reductions but plague still affects everyone)
Production enhancements affect income as it does in ascension
Spy levels add into covert levels
Anticovert levels add into assassin levels

No ascended blessing
No bonuses for number of ascensions (levels in the various military stats take care of that)

Accounts still generate LF (or APP if they have not yet ascended) which can be used to buy up levels. Income may still be converted to LF as per usual. Since descension is impossible, that won't be affected.

So... suposse this gets done...

what's the big use? the ascended server excists for a reason

that reason is to create a server for those who have spent loads of time on main and have proven their activity. So they get an account on ascended where they are basically on their own in comparison to main.


In main you have friends to help you. On ascended that's lots harder. Ascended is more individual then main. That'sw what it's all about.

Meh, ask around mate, friends and alliance help one another all the time on ascension.

I don't see the point of merging the servers in all honesty.

Right, so what exactly would you do with 2.5b units in main?

Terrible idea

My 2 cents spent.

Finarfin wrote:Right, so what exactly would you do with 2.5b units in main?

Same thing I do on ascension, only the plague would be a little bit worse on me than on some people, which I can accept. I think my UP would compensate. I mean, ascension and main are practically the same anymore. Let's just have one server. There is no challenge to become powerful in ascension anymore.

i second this suggestion, you have totally ruined the ascended server for anyone who seriosuly ascended per update you may aswell put them together so are accounts in some way represent the effort we have put into them.

I mean are there any bad things that will come from this. All the people who just got massive boosts for free will still have them , and on the main server too.

Acronon wrote:Meh, ask around mate, friends and alliance help one another all the time on ascension.

I don't see the point of merging the servers in all honesty.

The point of merging the servers is that, instead of playing two servers that are exactly the same, we only play one server and be done with it. I am surprised that more of you aren't going for this. The only way for this game to survive much longer is to merge the servers. Otherwise both ascension and main are going to die.

Mojo Rising wrote:

Acronon wrote:Meh, ask around mate, friends and alliance help one another all the time on ascension.

I don't see the point of merging the servers in all honesty.

The point of merging the servers is that, instead of playing two servers that are exactly the same, we only play one server and be done with it. I am surprised that more of you aren't going for this. The only way for this game to survive much longer is to merge the servers. Otherwise both ascension and main are going to die.

Even merging them wont help, if something isnt done soon it will come to the point where you can war and destroy everything you have and expend every resource you have and then be ready to war again the next day.

While i do think ascended needed some attention, making it like main has done nothing but prove my point about exponintail growth being a game killer.

OK, the reason ascension became unbalanced in the first place wasn't because people like me ascended well and played the server from the beginning. It is because most people couldn't be assed to play the server and just ascended for the bonuses in main. Most of you wouldn't give a fig about ascension if descension weren't a part of the game. After it came out, all of a sudden it was unfair that people like me were so huge in ascension while the rest of you were struggling for scraps from the superweapon sales. Now that all challenge has been taken out of the ascension server, let's just merge the two servers into one.

Most people ascended with minimum because:

DD and Omega would destroy anyone (not protected by either) that played well, by untraining their units and stealing most of them. This is a well known Fact!

Many state Ascended was originally meant to not have alliances, but that is not possible to enforce. There is not a question that the oldest players, those in DD especially got there first, worked together and dominated. It is a fact that in 90% of the games out there that give good players even a couple days or hours lead time and they will dominate that game. Since there is no reset in Main or ascended only the caps, help from older players or a very large pocketbook allow newer players any chance of enjoyment. Many in DD did well and should be congratulated, early entry, cooperation and skill gave them their dominance.

The fact is though, that with the updates within one-two months there will be hundreds of players with 2Billion+ armies, even those in the current wars. But, they will also be practically empident to do anything to the botton 80% of the server with the current modifiers.

As much as this suggestion may benefit me personally, I am not for it without more details and modifications. Those that have done well have benefited in main thru their DMU sales for NAQ already. I am sure they will find additional ways to continue to benefit.

What is the answer to Ascended I do not know, any minor change can have huge effects.

Thufir_Hawat wrote:Most people ascended with minimum because:

DD and Omega would destroy anyone (not protected by either) that played well, by untraining their units and stealing most of them. This is a well known Fact!

Many state Ascended was originally meant to not have alliances, but that is not possible to enforce. There is not a question that the oldest players, those in DD especially got there first, worked together and dominated. It is a fact that in 90% of the games out there that give good players even a couple days or hours lead time and they will dominate that game. Since there is no reset in Main or ascended only the caps, help from older players or a very large pocketbook allow newer players any chance of enjoyment. Many in DD did well and should be congratulated, early entry, cooperation and skill gave them their dominance.

The fact is though, that with the updates within one-two months there will be hundreds of players with 2Billion+ armies, even those in the current wars. But, they will also be practically empident to do anything to the botton 80% of the server with the current modifiers.

As much as this suggestion may benefit me personally, I am not for it without more details and modifications. Those that have done well have benefited in main thru their DMU sales for NAQ already. I am sure they will find additional ways to continue to benefit.

What is the answer to Ascended I do not know, any minor change can have huge effects.

How can you say most people ascended with minimum because Omega and DD would crush them when Omega and DD were NOT quick ascending in the beginning to build up their ascension accounts gradually? Hell I got the crap kicked out of me plenty in main and ascension for quite sometime before my ascension account finally became self-sufficient. And yes, I raided some planets during my time, but mostly from inactive accounts or people that attacked me or my friends.

I find it odd that most people don't have a problem with someone being able to destroy months of work and effort on the part of the top ranked accounts, but want to deny us the ability to do the same to you when you try.

I am trying to come up with updates that benefit EVERYONE. EVERYONE will benefit from just about every one of the suggestions that I have made. Some will benefit more than others with some suggestions. But the key here is that NO ONE gets punished for playing the game, as is currently happening.

As far as alliances in ascension goes, well that was just naivete on Jason's part to think that the alliances wouldn't carry over to the ascension server. As with so many other things in this game, he didn't think things through before he implemented them. Of course, I guess it is hard to think when you have your head shoved so far up your fourth point of contact. It also makes sitting down a **Filtered**, but would explain why he hasn't read any of the suggestions in the suggestion forums.

If anyone has any BETTER suggestions to insure that the game stays alive and doesn't collapse under its own weight, then I am more than willing to listen.

Merging the two servers is highly unfair as the reason they gave the newer ascended accounts free stuff is because the value of life force changed or something(correct me if im wrong)and they wanted to even it up...but if the servers merg you and all the other huge people in the game get bigger and us smaller players get wiped out of the competition more then they already have been...most people do choose to neglect their ascended accounts as personally i like alot of people only ascended for the main realm benefits of it...so if they do what you say and merg them and all the people like me loose our main realm benefits and get an extra 50 mill army size from our crappy neglected ascended accounts its going to just benefit you and the other top 60 people in the realm so don't try to say this update is based at making the game better for everyone as its designed to make the stronger stronger and the weaker weaker making the whole game as unbalanced and as unfair as the ascended realm... the ascended realm is already completely wrecked as your rank is only based on army size so it means who ever has been their the longest wins...i say make the ascended realm more like the main server and leave em separate...i no this wont fix the game but it wont destroy it either

It is complicated, I know that. But just as Mojo Rising keeps stating how it was a choice of others to ascend minimally, it was also those that sacraficed their main accounts choice also. Knowing that both Main and Ascended undergo constant changes.

Those at the top have already had benefits to their main accounts, and I belive all the top accounts in ascended are also seen as top accounts in Main. I still do not recognize why they need to be able to benefit their main accounts more than they already have. There is no denying the trillions they have made off of DMU sales.

I agree not all DD or Omega accounts reached for the top. We all also know that Omega accounts were always 2nd to DD accounts in Ascended until there was a "partnership" of sorts. I cannot say that any particular player was responsible for Stipping accounts. Yes, Mojo Rising you may of been benevolent and only struck the "inactive" and enemies of DD. There are players that I know that were very passive and never attacked DD or Omega that were systematically striped. Those there first excelled as is most often the case. Nothing wrong with that it is natural. Just most games reset and then the effort has to be renewed.

I see lots of suggestions, like your last one where different number of turns for max power on personal attacks and no rank mods. You know as better than anyother that would allow you to deascend 80%+ of the players with what 10Turn attacks? and then you want 1 an hour. So players arent even allowed to sleep 6 hours anymore only 2 to preven deacension? Few of us are naieve enough to belive they help everyone, most of your "suggestions" favor the top few precent and really penalize the majority.

Hopefully, changes can be made that are fair to all including those at the top to keep the game "alive".

Thufir_Hawat wrote:It is complicated, I know that. But just as Mojo Rising keeps stating how it was a choice of others to ascend minimally, it was also those that sacraficed their main accounts choice also. Knowing that both Main and Ascended undergo constant changes.

Those at the top have already had benefits to their main accounts, and I belive all the top accounts in ascended are also seen as top accounts in Main. I still do not recognize why they need to be able to benefit their main accounts more than they already have. There is no denying the trillions they have made off of DMU sales.

I agree not all DD or Omega accounts reached for the top. We all also know that Omega accounts were always 2nd to DD accounts in Ascended until there was a "partnership" of sorts. I cannot say that any particular player was responsible for Stipping accounts. Yes, Mojo Rising you may of been benevolent and only struck the "inactive" and enemies of DD. There are players that I know that were very passive and never attacked DD or Omega that were systematically striped. Those there first excelled as is most often the case. Nothing wrong with that it is natural. Just most games reset and then the effort has to be renewed.

I see lots of suggestions, like your last one where different number of turns for max power on personal attacks and no rank mods. You know as better than anyother that would allow you to deascend 80%+ of the players with what 10Turn attacks? and then you want 1 an hour. So players arent even allowed to sleep 6 hours anymore only 2 to preven deacension? Few of us are naieve enough to belive they help everyone, most of your "suggestions" favor the top few precent and really penalize the majority.

Hopefully, changes can be made that are fair to all including those at the top to keep the game "alive".

So what you are saying is that, in half an hour or less, someone who has 1/5 my army size can wipe away two months production from me but me asking for the ability to wipe out two weeks' production for someone else is little MUCH???? And once an hour????? TOO MUCH?????

Again, I find it difficult that you can wrap your head around the one concept and not the other. And yes, it was my choice to ascend as I did, because I and others like me were promised these great rewards. Instead, all we got was {Modded by Lore}. So now most of us are trying to make as much money as we can from our ascension accounts until the server crashes and burns. 20 people are already at 2 billion planets or more. By the end of the year, I predict at least 100 people will reach that milestone. By mid march, I am going to say that there will be at least 500-1000 accounts with 2 billion or more planets. Then the server will die as everyone will have the same stats, the same number of planets, the same account essentially and no reason to play because there will be no growth and no benefit to having a good ascension account.