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Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:17 pm
by Mystake
Reduce the 60 days protection!
Otherwise, Anyone can ascend 4 times without bieng able to be descended.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:39 pm
by Zeratul
wrong place... this is suggestion for ascended, not for main...
so moved...
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:40 pm
by hidden
Mr Mystake wrote:Reduce the 60 days protection!
Otherwise, Anyone can ascend 4 times without being able to be descended.
well yeah but ascending 4 times isn't going to make them really strong i maen with the big gaps people should have the chance to get on their feet
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:46 pm
by Lore
hidden wrote:Mr Mystake wrote:Reduce the 60 days protection!
Otherwise, Anyone can ascend 4 times without being able to be descended.
well yeah but ascending 4 times isn't going to make them really strong i maen with the big gaps people should have the chance to get on their feet
if they stay completely inactive I agree, but if they attack anyone the protection should end. JMO
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:39 pm
by Munchy
If they try to descend someone else their protection should end. Normal attacks shouldn't nullify it.
Or if they declare war on someone, that particular person should be able to make descension attempts.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:07 pm
by Lore
Munchy wrote:If they try to descend someone else their protection should end. Normal attacks shouldn't nullify it.
Or if they declare war on someone, that particular person should be able to make descension attempts.
So as long as they don't declare war they can mass/farm you around the clock and your ok with that?
I say ANY attack nulls protection. period.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:25 pm
by Munchy
To get an account going these days you need dmu, either through buying it or farming inactive accounts(with buying it being about 2,000 times more effective sadly). 60 days protection is great and all, but even if you did a big ascension, your account will still be worthless without some influx of dmu. Think of an account acting solo in main in its first 60 days. If it didn't attack a single person, even if they themselves didn't get attacked at all, their account would still be well under a million I bet. Probably under 300 k. (Unless they got lucky and found some nice planets ofcourse...but that would still be out side involvement, just not intentional)
Yes, some people most likely do abuse the 60 day free pass on descension attempts, but if it gets canceled altogether whenever they attack someone then it is worthless to even have in the first place in my opinion.
Unless it was made so that it was only canceled for the one person who was attacked to make attempts. Then I suppose it could be alright, but I am guessing a war status would be easier for admin to implement.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:18 pm
by Lore
Munchy wrote:To get an account going these days you need dmu, either through buying it or farming inactive accounts(with buying it being about 2,000 times more effective sadly). 60 days protection is great and all, but even if you did a big ascension, your account will still be worthless without some influx of dmu. Think of an account acting solo in main in its first 60 days. If it didn't attack a single person, even if they themselves didn't get attacked at all, their account would still be well under a million I bet. Probably under 300 k. (Unless they got lucky and found some nice planets ofcourse...but that would still be out side involvement, just not intentional)
Yes, some people most likely do abuse the 60 day free pass on descension attempts, but if it gets canceled altogether whenever they attack someone then it is worthless to even have in the first place in my opinion.
Unless it was made so that it was only canceled for the one person who was attacked to make attempts. Then I suppose it could be alright, but I am guessing a war status would be easier for admin to implement.
Munchy I still ask you, do you think its fair for someone to farm you mecilessly for 2 months? I do agree that making it so those that are attacked can retaliate, but if its one or the other I say it needs to go.
As it has been said, any active player can make more DMU farming actively then just sitting there. I dont think its fair for anyone to hit someone else, but not for the defender to be able to retaliate. JMO
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:12 pm
by Mystake
make it so if you try to descend someone, you lose protection
you declare war on someone, you lose protection
IT NEEDS TO GO NOW
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:48 pm
by Mordack
There should be NO system in place where player A can attack player B but player B can't attack them back. I really don't see how anybody can argue otherwise.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:16 pm
by Lore
Mordack wrote:There should be NO system in place where player A can attack player B but player B can't attack them back. I really don't see how anybody can argue otherwise.
AMEN Brother, and there are more then 1 or 2 of this very thing in ascended.
Re: Remove 60 days protection
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:06 am
by BenjaminMS
Why not some mid-way (I understand your feeling. A few days ago my 60-day protection ended, and I'm already rank 500 and better and descended 2 players and attempted on a few others)? Those who are getting an ascended attack on them by an protected one, get the option (that expires after 3 days) to attack back. It makes it fair, but also prevents that when you're low-ranked someone thinks you're inactive and descends you as a some sort of training target. Hm?