Spacey

[Bazsy]

So what are you able to do as an admin?

What is the point of a head admin that isn't available for weeks at a time?

Activating users, adding users to groups, retrieving lost passwords, etc... Ask some ppl Im doing this all day... Head admin is Im sure around, but we live in a different time zone. So that could cause the communication issue.

[Xeen]

Can you point out where I put him down, his modding has nothing to do with his alliance and therefore doesn't come into it.

Also, it has nothing to do with the issues here, so you seem to just be posting for the sake of it, and you're a fine one to bring up ways to speak about alliances colleagues given what your nearest and dearest says about her allies every single time she has the chance.

I don't need to point out how bad you are Bazsy...

This part does not looks like as an applause

I dont think what I said was offtopic. There is alot of hotheads recently on forum. One issue is ETL ban another issue is FS mass by ETL for that ban, next issue is angry part of community because MODs almost got some ingame advantage for their work.

My opinion about issues are.
1. It is necessary to follow rules for game as well as for forum. If rules are bad then initiate pool to change it. But if not bad then is necessary to follow. In my opinion, ETL made a move against rules and got banned.
2. It is not good to mix MOD and ACCOUNT statuses. Massing MOD just for doing his work is wrong in my eyes.
3. Personal insults - especially from mood side is unacceptable. It is similar as when a policeman start to steal. FS did really bad mistake to point at rhett healt condition. He made public appology and it is rhett decision if he will accept it. I respect FS for made such apollogy and admin team should vote about he stay in mod team or not based on his previous work in team.
4. About some ingame advantages for mods or not there is few things everybody should consider.
Voices against:
A. Giving somebody an advantage and dont give chance to others to got it is allways bad.
Voices for:
A. MODs work is time expensive and I see no assets in being mod. It is work, work and another not payed work. You can get only prestige for that and start to be well known player. But it is hypotetical because big part of community shows no respect to mod time spending here.
B. If mod would invest time "wasted" by moderating forums into game MOD account would grow faster.
C. MOD account is put to higher risk of massing just because of modding as we can see.
Results - Im fine with a premium tag, im not sure about any direct support (MT, planets etc... ) because it is hard to decide how "big loses" MOD suffers by MODDINg instead of playing as well as it is individual for each mod. Any "permanent" bonus is maybe wrong idea. Maybe individual NAQ once per moth to best and most active mod based on vote?
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In next part of your post you are pointing at my wife TealAuc/Jenny of course. I share some of her opinion and some not. I disagree with her style of talking about allies in public no matters if she maybe told truth about them or maybe not, she could not break a rules of community where she want fit into.

Ok. Congratulations everyone who reach this ending point of my post. And Jake, if you have anything against me you can meet me anytime on my MSN. If you will put offensive language at home and also respect my low language skill Im sure we can talk as adult men about it.

[RepliJake]

From your post you are either not aware or choose to forget what the catalyst for Rhett's apparent rule breaking that led to his ban. Since the context was removed to cover up a MOD breaking those very rules and the very MOD that banned EtL condoned said rule breaking when it was a MOD doing it.

[Spacey]

EDIT: the post under question:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=89529&p=1042168#p1042168

Nice, lock the topic and then post what you been formulating for 30 mins. to divert to what was said making it impossible to reply.

U said: Or a Planet?

It was a suggestion for compensation as in:

Admin: I want to give GLOBAL mods an extra MT
Teal: ONLY global mods?
Teal: If this is done, then ALL mods should get the 4rth MT.
Spacey: What about a planet? We don't have to worry about our ID's, user's will be none the wiser. (we could have bought it or used mt's)

I didn't lock the topic. It was locked prior. The post before mine is dated "09 Sep 2007 16:02", and today is the 13th. If it had still been open there would not have been that lull in posts.

I did say to bring your concerns here at the end of that thread, and thanks for doing so.

The sequence of text that you have abouve isn't how the conversation went.

It was a suggestion for compensation

as in

meaning this was an example.

This would be the correct conversation if you insist:

[19:57] <adminHere> if someone gives me a list of mod game IDs (global only? ) i will see what can be done --lets leave that for next week
[19:58] <Tealauc> Well, jason, if you want to give something to mods... then give it to all mod team or not at all...

Spacey: How about a planet? We get one planet each? Our ID's we won't be singled out, and people could really be none the wiser (we could have bought it or used MT's)

Makes no difference.

You aren't correct. I wasn't in that mod meeting. I haven't been able to go to a mod meeting for weeks. Last time I was there Java wasn't working for me and I kept pinging out. I've had computer troubles (FF) and now I am busy during that meeting time.

Where ever you are getting this from is not right. This isn't how the mod thread went.

But of course you should, not only is he an admin but he IS (yes Spacey, is) a member of the Respect Group "Leading by example"

I am a supermod, and member of the respect group. I'm not sure what that has to do with this. Perhaps you will explain?

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

Just to Teal'auc huh?

Oh well... you found out yourself that someone is manipulating what mods say. I'm happy that at least one person might be catching on to what is really happening.

[RepliJake]

Spacey stop deleting and reposting you sad little kid

[Spacey]

No. I don't think so. I'm not a kid either, so please don't refer to me as such. I've been adding something to it each time, so they are (in essence) different posts.

Finally someone realizes what is happening, that post (quoted by me) needs to be said as much as the other stuff, and you want it to stop. Let the truth come out Replijake, it's what you've been saying should happen.

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

[RepliJake]

no, you're being childish, as ever to get people to notice you, like a little kid screaming and waving his arms.

Are you actually trying to say that the screen shot of your post was now doctored???

No?

The for christ's sake shut up.

If you were just adding stuff, child, then use the EDIT button...

[Spacey]

No. I never said the screen shot was doctored. I said that is what I said, but it was manipulated in how it was presented to show and represent something totally out of context.

El TC has me as part of that mod conversation (mod meeting), and I wasn't there. I've had problems with Java and haven't been able to get on to a mod meeting in a long time.

Additionally, what I said wasn't from a mod meeting. It was from a mod thread. and Game jason wasn't a part of that thread. So what he has presented, and his understanding as people are telling him (pple that are not mods) is still wrong.

Every quote that El TC has shown in this thread has been wrong. Either in: (1) what a mod says, (2) who was at the meeting (not at the meeting too), and (3) where I said what I did in that screen shot. People are still trying to represent it for what it isn't.

El TC is arguing that my post is meant to deceive the community (originally), which it isn't. He has found out that who ever he got the quote from is manipulating him.

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

[RepliJake]

lol you just keep deleting and reposting then, it's not childish at all...

[Spacey]

I am adding important information to it each time.

If you feel it is childish, then this is the one time I am being childish (to you or as you say) so that people can see what is happening (the truth).

I have no problem with that.

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

[RepliJake]

No Spacey, what you are doing is trying to distract people from the fact that you tried to deceive the entire community.

If you are just adding stuff there is an edit button, don't talk such rubbish.

[Spacey]

No Replijake. What you are saying isn't true, just like those quotes that EL TC had.

In all of these threads no where has anyone (user) posted what was said in the thread before the screenshot of my post.

Why? Why are the forum users fed one post and are expected to believe that it's true? Why doesn't the people that posted what I said post what the conversation was about?

The web that some are trying to weave is becoming too much for them. They have too many lies to keep up with.

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

[RepliJake]

Yes, it's not true that you said "they will be none the wiser" oh, no it is true, but you were actually referring to your id's, not the fact that you were saying for all of you to have a planet.

I still see that the thread has not been made public, when you all say you have nothing to hide, yet the one thing that will apparently clear all this up is not coming out for some reason...

Yes, we are clearly the ones with the lies.

[Nuto vixen]

Seriously, guys, go outside and breathe in some fresh air.

This whole thing is just getting way over the top.

Walking in circles will not get anyone very far.

[Spacey]

I never denied saying that I said what is in that screenshot.

but and that's a big but... I said they would be none the wiser about mods ID's... NOT about planets... I wasn't refering to planets when I said what you mention... I was referring to IDs

People could not tell what a mod ID was...therefore none the wiser to the ingame identities of a few mods.

Come on now Replijake! You know forum and game are separate! Being a mod does not mean that their ID must be known.

Thread being made public:
Some people here say they have all the answers, and that mods are deceiving users. If they want the truth to come out why don't they post screenshots of what was being talked about before my post (what the conversation was about)? What are they trying to hide? If they have all the answers and want truth to come out, what is preventing them from doing it? Why only point out my post and not the conversation that was happening?

Think very carefully when answering those questions.

Seriously, guys, go outside and breathe in some fresh air.

This whole thing is just getting way over the top.

Walking in circles will not get anyone very far.

Come on now... I am calm. You're telling me to get fresh air? I am loving that the truth is coming out!

What about all those people who said 'no faith in mods over this'. Have a look at all of the authors that posted in this section, and the people that posted in the threads in general!

remember all those people who posted that and those threads

I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.