changes to ascension

[S T I]

look from the other point of view, is it right that you are given the growth to be able to smash the accounts above you

[reborn]

There is a difference between a 75mill and a 75mill account on main......i got a big account but Blahh stayed low and got 300bill defences on his planets.......while Svarun stayed low and builded his MS while i did UP ......

Now lets look at every DMU seller.....they have that ALL top notch in every stat.....

While i agree to a certain point with your statement about its far easier now with ascending......on the other hand im screwed as well because what am i gonna do with my 130mill army when i ascend......not to mention the lifers....zzzz

You are so far ahead in asc the only thing this update will do is give people who REALLY want to work on their ascended accounts can make a nice account in no means they can ever catch up.......maybe in lvls after a couple big ones but theres still the planets......

You all make it sound like doing a couple 200k asc is no biggy ......

now look at it another way, if we done quick ascension, i can tell u one thing for certain my m/s would b higher, my u,po would b higher and my covert lvl would b higher but it aint so even with selling dmu, its still nowhere near to what it could have been if we done like the rest and done quick ascension

but if u c it a different way and think we wouldnt have more, more fool u , u either dont want to admit that the big accounts before had done bare min ascensions and have more afterwards u need to go back and do some maths, because i know i would b on lvl 35 and with around 350k raw u,p with over 300 mil uu and thats mins of what i would have

[High Empty]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

[Orpheus]

Did anyone on the test server try to attack the top accounts ?
if so, can we have the results of it please ?

[Raven]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

In the meantime im severly weakened in main while im still so much behind in planets im still a joke......
By the time i reach your lvl im again far behind lol


@ Reborn .......no you wouldnt have had better lvls and stuff.......like i already said people like Svarun and blahh did fast ascension in your eyes.....why dont they have 300mill UU and why can they only work on 1 thing while you do EVERYTHINg top notch? you are there in main now BECAUSE of asc.....

When everyone at the start of asc did their last ascension there was no way of going over 100mill yet.......what about no planets yet? there is no way you could have been on 300mill army size and all those lvls you mentioned without planets and going over 100mill size......[wich was impossible in that time]

[reborn]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

but no he doesnt want to do that because it will hurt his main account ONCE, were we have been doing it for 2 yrs and more than once

and back at u raven, reason y they wouldnt have anything near me, well maybe look at this when they were still at 30 mil uu i had already done 6 ascension, all with good u,p and the highest coevrt lvls at that time, and i was well passed them in army size at the time anyway, but then again i wouldnt b better i didnt do my last ascension with over 230k raw and i didnt have lvl 31 and i didnt have a kick ass m/s, oh and the ascension before that no i didnt have a u,p of over 150k and covert lvl 30, come on do the maths or r u just playing i cant add up?

oh and the last 2 ascensions i did that was off my own back payed purely threw raiding and nothing else so before u say well ascension payed for that aswell it didnt

[Raven]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

but no he doesnt want to do that because it will hurt his main account ONCE, were we have been doing it for 2 yrs and more than once

and back at u raven, reason y they wouldnt have anything near me, well maybe look at this when they were still at 30 mil uu i had already done 6 ascension, all with good u,p and the highest coevrt lvls at that time, and i was well passed them in army size at the time anyway, but then again i wouldnt b better i didnt do my last ascension with over 230k raw and i didnt have lvl 31 and i didnt have a kick ass m/s, oh and the ascension before that no i didnt have a u,p of over 150k and covert lvl 30, come on do the maths or r u just playing i cant add up?

Give me a sec im looking for all those fast ascenders with 500k raw and massive MS's.....and 500mill+ armies.......cause if you could then others 'could' have done it aswell right

[reborn]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

but no he doesnt want to do that because it will hurt his main account ONCE, were we have been doing it for 2 yrs and more than once

and back at u raven, reason y they wouldnt have anything near me, well maybe look at this when they were still at 30 mil uu i had already done 6 ascension, all with good u,p and the highest coevrt lvls at that time, and i was well passed them in army size at the time anyway, but then again i wouldnt b better i didnt do my last ascension with over 230k raw and i didnt have lvl 31 and i didnt have a kick ass m/s, oh and the ascension before that no i didnt have a u,p of over 150k and covert lvl 30, come on do the maths or r u just playing i cant add up?

Give me a sec im looking for all those fast ascenders with 500k raw and massive MS's.....and 500mill+ armies.......cause if you could then others 'could' have done it aswell right

yeah they could have if they used there brains, and stayed under the raiding cap and put the naq in else were, come on the u say blahh and savrun ok well whats there u,p then? well i know one thing it aint even over 100k oh and look they aint even over 100 mil, damm well i was over 100 mil 10 months ago for the first time, now can u do maths from there, if not i can do it for u its not hard

[Raven]

Raven
a 200k ascension was a big thing before i had 50mil armysize but that doesn't mean it wasn't done.

as for your 130mil uu
well sell 65 mil of them that gives you 42 tril naq to play with
and big bang, you got your ascension and your back to 75mil and 200k up.

but no he doesnt want to do that because it will hurt his main account ONCE, were we have been doing it for 2 yrs and more than once

and back at u raven, reason y they wouldnt have anything near me, well maybe look at this when they were still at 30 mil uu i had already done 6 ascension, all with good u,p and the highest coevrt lvls at that time, and i was well passed them in army size at the time anyway, but then again i wouldnt b better i didnt do my last ascension with over 230k raw and i didnt have lvl 31 and i didnt have a kick ass m/s, oh and the ascension before that no i didnt have a u,p of over 150k and covert lvl 30, come on do the maths or r u just playing i cant add up?

Give me a sec im looking for all those fast ascenders with 500k raw and massive MS's.....and 500mill+ armies.......cause if you could then others 'could' have done it aswell right

yeah they could have if they used there brains, and stayed under the raiding cap and put the naq in else were, come on the u say blahh and savrun ok well whats there u,p then? well i know one thing it aint even over 100k oh and look they aint even over 100 mil, damm well i was over 100 mil 10 months ago for the first time, now can u do maths from there, if not i can do it for u its not hard

They are not over 100mill because they dont have unlimited naq like most of the DMU sellers for them it takes actually an effort to get their planet defences to 300bill and their MS to where they are now.......

[reborn]

lol, i got my planets to were they were before even selling any dmu, is called raiding, y dont u ask admin to look of how much time i use to spend on the game raiding before i went back over the limit, i spent over 12 hrs a day raiding then selling and do it all over again for 4 months each time i ascended, some ppl dont have the time or the sadness to do that, pity i did, im sure u will find out if he can look back that far there is still i bet today noone thats used as many turns and what i have used, but wait Raven u have the biggest account in your alliance but wait havent u infact sold up 2 times to a shell account when u got to 75 mil? and now u try to think and say i wont have more stuff

Lets do some simple maths for ya, last ascension as said
lvl 31 230k u,p cost of over 20 mil units
before
lvl 30 over 150k u,p over 15 mil units

now all took time to do that but if i had infact kept that would u atleast aggree i would have more naq, and if so more naq means more lvls / u,p

now thats just 35 mil units lost there, then plus the units lost because going into wars because ppl thought they could give it a try, but i wont count them

now for the loss of u,p, now that aint replaced over night so thats a big lost from making over 600k units a day to 40k is a big hit

now u look at the size i am now
180 mil lvl 32
but wait if u plus on the 35 mil units thats 215 mil units, then plus the u,p onto to what i have now and btw the raw is still a lot lower than my last ascension which was around 5 months ago, then plus on the covert lvls and then plus on all the units i would have got in the mean time if i hadnt ascended, now can u do the last simple bit of math with that?

[blahh]

Rave i see the brothers have band together on you

@reborn, for me i chose to stay at 75 mil, i had 100mil 10 months ago but coudlnt get 30mil over to my account like you and your brothers (at least 1) so they went away, i dont play up game, i never did i never will.
Up is something that recovers losses from farming or massings not a way to grow for me.

as for a huge ms and ascending, i m guessing that was be4 the war, than though luck mate cause i had the top ms for quite a while be4 the war, and i never considered her that huge


PPL stop whining.
Admin is try to revive the server, will it cost you something? probably as you already have it all you can not gain but only loose, such is the position of top ppl it has always been.

now unless you want to quit ascension due to admin shuting the server down cause only 30 ppl play the server in the futre, stop whining

you have top ascended accounts with huge head start, you have top main accounts (feeded from that ascended account), i realy dont see what you got to complain about.

as for the brains part, lets face it, its not some mistery puzzle game, its prity simple and does not require some realy hard intelectual work to play. I m guessing you had more team work and free time working for you than others have, thus your success.
Unless ofcourse you found some features that others havent gaining some kind of advantage over others, than yeah you could call it using the brain more, or last i checked it was also called cheating (not acusing just making my point that brain isnt realy a key element in it )

anyways, let admin work the enhancment have been heavily discussed, worse case scenario you dont like them and when they are implemented you start whining again and we have this convo repeated than ok?

[S T I]

Blahh, well i am surprised

i always thought that you were open minded to a discusion, guess i am wrong,

chucking the old whinning bit in was funny & then the bit about cheating, well need i say more.

oh yeah

Tornado told me you had fed info to him about what my account was b4, attack planets, when he was investergating me, well lets put you right that was jake, i had a mixture of defence/up.

[Raven]

lol, i got my planets to were they were before even selling any dmu, is called raiding, y dont u ask admin to look of how much time i use to spend on the game raiding before i went back over the limit, i spent over 12 hrs a day raiding then selling and do it all over again for 4 months each time i ascended, some ppl dont have the time or the sadness to do that, pity i did, im sure u will find out if he can look back that far there is still i bet today noone thats used as many turns and what i have used, but wait Raven u have the biggest account in your alliance but wait havent u infact sold up 2 times to a shell account when u got to 75 mil? and now u try to think and say i wont have more stuff

Lets do some simple maths for ya, last ascension as said
lvl 31 230k u,p cost of over 20 mil units
before
lvl 30 over 150k u,p over 15 mil units

now all took time to do that but if i had infact kept that would u atleast aggree i would have more naq, and if so more naq means more lvls / u,p

now thats just 35 mil units lost there, then plus the units lost because going into wars because ppl thought they could give it a try, but i wont count them

now for the loss of u,p, now that aint replaced over night so thats a big lost from making over 600k units a day to 40k is a big hit

now u look at the size i am now
180 mil lvl 32
but wait if u plus on the 35 mil units thats 215 mil units, then plus the u,p onto to what i have now and btw the raw is still a lot lower than my last ascension which was around 5 months ago, then plus on the covert lvls and then plus on all the units i would have got in the mean time if i hadnt ascended, now can u do the last simple bit of math with that?

with the CIA -COP war you lost all your planets and was brought down to around 60mill....

NOw explain to me how you got your account like it is today without heavy DMU sales[and dont say raiding again cause you went right back over the limit this time]

[reborn]

with the CIA -COP war you lost all your planets and was brought down to around 60mill....

NOw explain to me how you got your account like it is today without heavy DMU sales[and dont say raiding again cause you went right back over the limit this time]

i went down to 68 mil , and no i didnt go straight back over, i went raiding for 1 and a half months, but yes after that dmu sales, but r u missing something, what would i have had and dont say u wont have add more because i think i proved i would have on the posts above, because it was not my first ascension, i had been doing massive ascesion all the time just like the other big accounts to b stronger on ascension, now what r u trying to say though raven i couldnt of done it well u have sold up 2 times that i known of when u got to 75 mil but u r now the highest army size in your alliance r u saying u hvae been doing something that others havent or is it something simiar to what we did which i do believe u said that u raided and put it onto u,p, damm didnt think u were the only one doing it

[Raven]

with the CIA -COP war you lost all your planets and was brought down to around 60mill....

NOw explain to me how you got your account like it is today without heavy DMU sales[and dont say raiding again cause you went right back over the limit this time]

i went down to 68 mil , and no i didnt go straight back over, i went raiding for 1 and a half months, but yes after that dmu sales, but r u missing something, what would i have had and dont say u wont have add more because i think i proved i would have on the posts above, because it was not my first ascension, i had been doing massive ascesion all the time just like the other big accounts to b stronger on ascension, now what r u trying to say though raven i couldnt of done it well u have sold up 2 times that i known of when u got to 75 mil but u r now the highest army size in your alliance r u saying u hvae been doing something that others havent or is it something simiar to what we did which i do believe u said that u raided and put it onto u,p, damm didnt think u were the only one doing it

I already pointed that out twice....i hoped you got it by now......while i went for UP they went for something else and you went for EVERYTHING

got it?

i sold out once btw

Even though i got a nice army size the stats on my account are pretty poor because i dont have naq to work on lvl 32 spy, 400bill MS, 500billdef on all 10 planets, 1.3mill UP and 100k fleets......

i had naq for 700k UP only and blahh put his naq to his planet defences and Svarun made a 400bill MS.....

and you.....well you got all i wrote above.....[not precise numbers] now we might have forgotten something but you cant tell me you did with smart play.....Now dont start about raiding again or about ascensions and all that crap..... im talking in a time frame from the time you got outta the CIA-COP war

Btw im not saying you did it illegally im just saying Ascension has been good for you too.....for your account.....while still being a top player there........selling DMU is like selling air to the smaller ones for you.......alot for nothing