Spacey

[Shaitan]

Please read this post too:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=89568&p=1036258#p1036258

What does that have to do with this? All that shows is that admin offered..nothing about what the mods got up to with the offer..which the the now public mod thread demonstrates.

[Spacey]

It would have used it when it suited them. It would have come out anyway, just when it was in the interests of a few users.

Replijake, don't put word in my mouth. I never told you to post it. I asked why you hadn't already.

[Spacey]

Please read this post too:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=89568&p=1036258#p1036258

What does that have to do with this? All that shows is that admin offered..nothing about what the mods got up to with the offer..which the the now public mod thread demonstrates.

ETL, Game Jason says:

In all honesty, this is the easiest solution since they did not push for it, did not really care if they got it or not, and obviously it is more trouble than its worth...so it goes.

[Shaitan]

Please read this post too:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=89568&p=1036258#p1036258

What does that have to do with this? All that shows is that admin offered..nothing about what the mods got up to with the offer..which the the now public mod thread demonstrates.

ETL, Game Jason says:

In all honesty, this is the easiest solution since they did not push for it, did not really care if they got it or not, and obviously it is more trouble than its worth...so it goes.

But the thread with the mods' REAL reaction shows otherwise doesn't it!

PS: Once again when I say mods, I'm not referring to the ones who did the right thing from the VERY BEGINNING...

[Bazsy]

It would have used it when it suited them. It would have come out anyway, just when it was in the interests of a few users.

Replijake, don't put word in my mouth. I never told you to post it. I asked why you hadn't already.

I was the one who told him to post:)

[Spacey]

Please read this post too:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=89568&p=1036258#p1036258

What does that have to do with this? All that shows is that admin offered..nothing about what the mods got up to with the offer..which the the now public mod thread demonstrates.

ETL, Game Jason says:

In all honesty, this is the easiest solution since they did not push for it, did not really care if they got it or not, and obviously it is more trouble than its worth...so it goes.

But the thread with the mods' REAL reaction shows otherwise doesn't it!

PS: Once again when I say mods, I'm not referring to the ones who did the right thing from the VERY BEGINNING...

You need to keep in mid what other mod are saying too ETL. A mod already posted to this. I think homer did it..

well im a mod ..i was asked to replace someone that no longer plays.. ill admit the chat section isnt that active but i like the fact that im a mod and attend the mod meetings and actually get to speak with forum one on one within those meetings.... all the recognition i need.

ive been a op(mod) on irc for a very long time and in several diff games and i have been massed, sabbed, destroyed several times over for the work and time i put into those chats for simply doing what was asked of me, and i have never asked for anything in return nor do i now.

it was the current administration of the forums which brought up the idea of "something for putting in our time". We dont deny that but the MT was forums idea as i remember from reading the log of the chat since i was not present at that meeting. I appreciate the extra ingame name.

As this affects no one this shouldnt be an issue its just simply a way of saying thank you to the current staff. Doesnt affect us at all and cetainly doesnt give us any advantage, if anything it gives us a disadvantage as we can easily be found for some one to exact there revenge on us for simply doing what were asked to do.

Now the subject of the extra MT.

Sure i wouldnt mind it i wont lie, but as it gives us an unfair advatage and the community would be outraged when it found out it can not go through .
i think youll all find that the mere suggestion of the fourth MT we all got glossy eyed thinking of the possibility's of such an advantage, but after a few days of thinking about and getting over the initial shock(OMG IM GETTING A FOURTH MT....THATS SOOO COOL) we all decided that it shouldnt be done so an email was sent to jason. as of yet this hasnt been implemented trust me i would of used it by now :p

Things are done in private for a reason people, do u actually think u know all that goes on in your own countries government thats suppose to be public knowledge? Exactly why this wasnt released to the public. anyone with half a brain could realise this would bring an outcry from the cumminty. so all anyone has acomplished in posting "private" mod sections, mod meetings, and/or irc logs(btw i still want to know how that got out.... /me goes fishing on irc ) is doing just that... creating chaos and animosity toward the current administration of these forums.

btw if u dont think certtain words and/or post can be taken out of context to make one look bad(IE spacys post) just have a look at the quote thread in the chat section. most of it wiull make u laugh but 99% of those quotes are out of context.

with that being said ive given my 2 cents......

[RobinInDaHood]

What is pretty damning? Have I lied to you? I said I was talking about IDs which I was.

Nope, no lies that I could see. Well, I'm assuming you're referring to whether or not you were pushing for planets to be given away freely which I think the conversation shows you were not. Personally, I didn't involve myself in that discussion because, frankly, I could care less what benefit Jason or the moderator team was proposing and/or pushing. I found that point to be inconsequential all along.

What I found damning specifically related to you was how hard you were trying to find a way to put a lid on things. As I've stated before, it's a very normal and expected reaction to deny, deny, deny when you're caught doing something you didn't want to be caught doing. I was just surprised to see you being one of the most vocal on that point. As far as the moderators go, I've considered you to be even tempered and level headed generally so this caught me off guard.

Maybe "damning" was too strong of a word. I would change that to "surprising", instead.

[Spacey]

What is pretty damning? Have I lied to you? I said I was talking about IDs which I was.

Nope, no lies that I could see. Well, I'm assuming you're referring to whether or not you were pushing for planets to be given away freely which I think the conversation shows you were not. Personally, I didn't involve myself in that discussion because, frankly, I could care less what benefit Jason or the moderator team was proposing and/or pushing. I found that point to be inconsequential all along.

What I found damning specifically related to you was how hard you were trying to find a way to put a lid on things. As I've stated before, it's a very normal and expected reaction to deny, deny, deny when you're caught doing something you didn't want to be caught doing. I was just surprised to see you being one of the most vocal on that point. As far as the moderators go, I've considered you to be even tempered and level headed generally so this caught me off guard.

Maybe "damning" was too strong of a word. I would change that to "surprising", instead.

I think you or me are confused bud. I never said or did anything to deny anything. When was I trying to put a lid on anything? I don't understnad what you are referring to.

[geisha]

As far as the moderators go, I've considered you to be even tempered and level headed generally so this caught me off guard.

*cough* this is Spacey we are talking about...

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This is fuc king ridiculous!

I am fuc king tired of all this garbage. I get the impression that you thin that this is some kind of a joke, or as you said:

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[Mordack]

As far as the moderators go, I've considered you to be even tempered and level headed generally so this caught me off guard.

*cough* this is Spacey we are talking about...

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This is fuc king ridiculous!

I am fuc king tired of all this garbage. I get the impression that you thin that this is some kind of a joke, or as you said:

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What other fuc king post of mine is in that thread! XXXXXXXXXX What the fuc k are you going on about? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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Are you fuc king kidding me![/b][/size] XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Fuc k you.

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I am sooo fuc king tired of this same stuff! It never fuc king ends here! We are supposed to be fuc king adults XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Are you fuc king kidding me?!?!!

Oh yes, a veritable Gandhi of the mods.

[Spacey]

If you have the whole thread geisha, post it, don't black out what we were talking about. It doesn't give the whole picture.

And this happened in the mod station, not in public (behind closed doors)

[Tanith]

If you have the whole thread geisha, post it, don't black out what we were talking about. It doesn't give the whole picture.

And this happened in the mod station, not in public (behind closed doors)

I'm sorry but I have a question, if this happened in the mod section (supposed to be private right?), why and how is it a) allowed to be posted here? b) still here c) nobody getting in trouble for posting it here?

[System Lord Nephthys]

And this happened in the mod station, not in public (behind closed doors)

What differance does that make? Surley you should 'behave' better there, as you don't have flamers etc bla bla (and of course you are all meant to be mature even under prevocation - which is why you are moderators?)

^--- Tru Storie!

~Neph

[Mordack]

I think today has proved that the mod section isn't quite as sacred as it used to be, and that people will be held accountable for the things they've said there.

[RobinInDaHood]

I think you or me are confused bud. I never said or did anything to deny anything. When was I trying to put a lid on anything? I don't understnad what you are referring to.

lets think about how this could be interpreted from the forum users
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I think we should think about how this can be used against us, before we make it public.

but what I'm suggesting is to figure out how this could be used against us, and to either prepare arguments against those points, or sit on the data we have.

Maybe you meant something else...