High Empty wrote:blahh, raven,... whoever.
Now think carefully, on this
Why do the larger accounts want raiding to stay?
Is it so that they can destory your account, well i don't need to raid you to do that, i just remove your defence, and have people farm you, and descend you.
Is it to grow. Well damn guys i would need to raid a stuff-load of planets. To be correct, i would need to raid ranks 10-20, and i might save a day or 2 of my UP productions.
Is it to keep the soul of ascension alive, well it might be that.
Or is it just to keep people in line so that they don't do anything foolish, like start farming everyone members.
Now ascensions
Anys APP, conversion is going to leave your main account weaker, THAT is the POINT of ascension! It's a place to spend main resources. As for the people selling dmu, well they are just helping people, since people don't buy if' the deals bad. When it comes down to it, it's cheaper to buy then to ascend, cause you dont need to rebuild everything.
If neither of you want to ascend, so what no one is forcing you too, get yourself descended, and go on your way, you gotten your shiny weapons, do you need anything else?
@Brdavs,
having reread your statement, and well your right.
however would like the power ups to be a bit more expensive.
To general, NO UPDATE IS GOING TO EFFECT ANY MAJOR PLAYER
for one simple reason, the major players can change to suit the update.
first the last thing, if no update messes up your gameplay and it we think it will bring more ppl to play back the game, and see it as a good update, why do we have the majority of big ppl complaining about this update?
@raiding part.
I have no idea why you would want to keep the raiding, sure you are unraidable, and if you play the game right you will remain as such. But others arent. To keep us in line? well i m sorry to be the one to tell you this, but ascended wasnt made so you could keep ppl in line
The soul of ascension has been dead due to the raiding, at least thats what majority ppl claim
I know you dont need raiding for growing, no1 ever claimed you are curently growing from raiding, your main growth is your up we get that, thats why you were happy to change raiding into destroyn, you see as you dont need to grow, its practical to have an instrument to keep others from growing... I could quote you now from an 10months old post where you clearly say for main that if you wont be allowed to grow over 75 mil due to the cap, you ll sure as hell do anything in your power to keep others from coming close to that cap. I can only asume your aim at keeping raid or destroy planets is the same, to keep ppl down.
What i can tell you with certenty is what i have experieced (this applys to rebons 100 mil to 1 thing too) and thats the fact that i wasnt allowed to move over 4mil planets total, evrytime i got higher some1 raided me.
even now i keep about 1/3 of my army in "defence related" stats so that i m "safe" and i asume i m only safe cause there are some naps in place, else i d sure be a gonners sooner or later.
No one is sayn thats soo wrong, what we are sayn is that it brings down the will to play, its like that making a house/pyramid from cards, eventualy it will totaly collapse. Now some ppl might enjoy that and see it as a challange, but most of us simply dont have time to invest 3 months so that they get nullified periodicly, its idiotic, hence server is dieing.
@ascensions
I m not gonna go through the same story on the 5x time or more, you can find my vievs on it in previous posts, but to point out again, if you wanna compete in main you have to ascnedn and thats it. So stop with descend yourself theory as than we can simply stop playn sgw on all servers.
@sti the words cryn and whining, were generaly used when we complained agaisnt an update we deemed unfair, i m guessing now, (on a such rare ocasion) ppl are returning the faveour by calling big guys complaints cryn and whining, and who is to blame them, if you browse the forums for older posts you ll see that the word is used more often by your fellow members (both previous and curent) than any other.
@your coment to brdavses post, well, the big guys fault is that server is unbalanced, you see by sticking yoursefl together and that you did, working as 1, and that you did, you created a monopoly on ascended, an uncrossable barier. The ppl arround you thrived, the ppl oposed to you died. The connection you made was strong and usefull for you guys (again i m not complaing, you deserve congrats on good tacticks), but in a way you stoped ppl from investing in asc much, if you werent on the right side, it was resources throwen away as youd eventualy be destroyed. So there is some valid point in his post.
At least be honest enough to admit, that that was your aim (domination) and that you acchived it (obviusly) so you cant say you are not to "blaim" for some imbalance to the server. (agian this is only good for you guys and you deserve it as you worked right and hard, but i hate it when i hear from mojo that ascended is balanced and all ok, when we all know its probably the most unbalanced thing in the existance:) )
@APP point, again i agree it is a bit of a shocking jump and it would be more normal if it slowly grew through the years, but i m guessing admin is tryn to find and connect loose ends and doing what is best for the server.
and again i doubt any1 minds a constructive debate, but it is annoyn bringing up old topics that have been heavily discused (probably in this thread already) and whats more, they are brough up by the same person who brough them up in the first place.
give your viev, take others, argumente it, and discuss it, its all fine, but hearing stuf over again and giving same counter arguments becomes a bit time consuming, and makes the thread a bit too long and hard to folow, for us and for admin.
Hope i covered all, also that it makes some sence, if not its probably cause of the late hour and a few beers, or has something to do with sucking at writing
night all
for this inbalance
For Rome!
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