changes to ascension

[Raven]

If the big guys want to keep ahead like they were they gonna have to reascend also ......
Everyone will have the same option as everyone whoes gonna do huge ascensions......the reward they got for the time they spent is a very large headstart and some of them getting more back then they initially spent with selling DMU.....

and there u have it again, we should have done 6 crap ascension like u and 90% of the rest that ascended and then whined about the ones that infact done big ascensions put time in, tried others to get and play it, because at the end we want the quick way

now look at it this way and if this does go threw i will push as hard as i can for this and c how everyone like it ,as it well only b fair as its the same thing thats being done to ascension, my guess is none

Main to b change
anyone under covert lvl 32 the cost was around 12 tri naq, should now become 133 bil just like lvl 31 was around 6 tri now that should become 66 bil and so on, but covert lvl 33 to cost 250 tri naq
now for u,p anyone wanting to goto 120k raw u,p it would cost them 12 tri naq, now this should become 133 bil everything over 120k each upgrade to cost 3 bil

Why would something like that be needed?
And even if it came in 2 weeks we would have top spy lvls again same what will happen in Asc

Top guys will get a serious boost while probably buying numerous lvls per day till they hit the limit when it will be alittle slower

You cant compare the 2 because both servers work differently......Asc has gone on to long without a decent soft cap or increase in APP>LF.....
Why would anyone need 250trill for covert lvls anyway .......if it would be as you described lvls will become cheaper in general meaning the ones who got the top lvls in main currently will in some time have the top lvls again ......

@Mojo:
What your threatening with you can already do.....i rather have 120 big accounts against me who i can fight then having 10 untouchable ones......


Just face it whiners Asc is gonna get a life boost and the top guys will have to give in if you like it or not....I think you guys rather rule a dead server then rule a living one lol

[Corsair]

Really? Corsair, I would love you to show the attack logs on your account of the number of times I have attacked you in, oh say, the past six months. The past year? I challenge anyone on the server who is currently NOT involved in a dispute with DD to show their attack logs and we shall see what "persecution" DD has wrought. Corsair, before you post again, I would seriously consider the ramifications of what you are seeking. And please do not talk out of your fourth point of contact again. Have a nice day.

Last time you attacked me was assassinating some off my covert planets during the CIA/CoP war so that doesnt count. But I would like to point to DF's posts and some of the others where maybe not you personally but big DD/Omega members have persecuted other players maybe I should have generalised it more as you seem to be taking this personally.

Of course, with your head in its current anatomic location, it is going to be hard to smoke that pipe. But have a nice day nonetheless.

If you cant hold a civil debate without being rude then dont debate at all. and thank you I am having a lovely day

[Timmy]

As Mojo said you don't really comprehend enough math to be able to see this as clearly as we do .... if you catch us on msn we can talk you trough this and you'll see that we are not just trowing numbers.

add me on msn tarnold@chcs.tas.edu.au then and we will talk numbers

[~lewis~]

Whats going on with the Power Up levels (forum) are these going to be the new prices or is this only for the dev server for testing, i strongly feel the prices of the power up levels should be left at what they currently are on the ascended server, these new prices make it laughable, and to easy.

as said yes... levels are at a very fair level.

too easy = mass growth and then there will be no small players anymore and i dont agree with this...

[Lord_Zeus]

Really? Corsair, I would love you to show the attack logs on your account of the number of times I have attacked you in, oh say, the past six months. The past year? I challenge anyone on the server who is currently NOT involved in a dispute with DD to show their attack logs and we shall see what "persecution" DD has wrought. Corsair, before you post again, I would seriously consider the ramifications of what you are seeking. And please do not talk out of your fourth point of contact again. Have a nice day.

Last time you attacked me was assassinating some off my covert planets during the CIA/CoP war so that doesnt count. But I would like to point to DF's posts and some of the others where maybe not you personally but big DD/Omega members have persecuted other players maybe I should have generalised it more as you seem to be taking this personally.

Of course, with your head in its current anatomic location, it is going to be hard to smoke that pipe. But have a nice day nonetheless.

If you cant hold a civil debate without being rude then dont debate at all. and thank you I am having a lovely day

Mojo, I am currently fighting dd so I'm not talking about immediately, However, I can't remember whether it was dd or omega, but I've had my ascended account wiped Quite a few times before this. Often for hitting the wrong person once, half the time I didnt even get an explanation or warning. It happens, that is unless you want to go praying to the almighty dirty dozen empire.

I think we can all agree whether we like the update personally or not, (It really doesn't suit the way my accounts set up) its better for the server and in a few months will make the server much more competitive, I know I'd give it a try up there if the situation was different.

Reborn, you have given a lot to ascended and I believe you have a good account there? Even after people ascend you will still keep a major advantage... what you should have had if these updates were brought in sooner and less drastically. Please stop complaining, you guys are still a mile ahead and will stay there for a while, if you want to stay up there, fight for it! Hell you guys could take on the entire server there if you wanted... do it, I dare you... just be prepared for what will follow in main.

or Trade some main resources to buy dmu. Or ascend again.

[~lewis~]

im in school atm and ascended is blocked by filter are the updates done guys?

[Lord_Zeus]

They arent implemented yet.

[~lewis~]

ok cool i cant wait so it would be this weekend then:) then i can ascend!!!

[Lord_Zeus]

Well, you should be able to ascend now if you want, just not covert your app to life force, I think this is the only rate that will be changing. (well that effects the conversion ratio from main to asc anyway)

[Timmy]

just a reminder admin of an idea earlier in the thread can you put a multiplier on the power ups cause someone will be there clicking all day with an ascention. if it got 2 digits it would be a great help.

[High Empty]

just a reminder admin of an idea earlier in the thread can you put a multiplier on the power ups cause someone will be there clicking all day with an ascention. if it got 2 digits it would be a great help.

I say let them CLICK

I damn well had to click!

was bloodly boring too!

Ofcourse you wouldn't need to click them all at once if the power ups weren't so cheap!

however that said, i'm still 200 behind on production so i've no problem with cheap power ups.

[~Anubis~]

Don't mind the update of th APP>>LF conversion increase as i've always thought that was way to low, but seriously from someone who has gone up about 200 ranks in the last 6months through just playing the lvl's being that cheap is just a stupid idea as within about 4months i think atleast 200players will hit the 500/700 power ups and the 60k fleets.

[~lewis~]

i agree anubis thats what i feel about the updates and as to people asking for refunds i think thats a big load of bull lol we all got to deal with it...

[Virisken Soshir]

when do the updates og live? i cant wait

[TheRook]

ive spent a lot around 910 tri on lvls in the last 7 days which only got me around 130 lvls

and there is me pulling in a MASSIVE 52million(NOT Billion or Trillion) DMU/turn...

it sucks to be you guys... 7 days of my income wont get me 130 levels in a week...

My 7 days of income is a whopping 17,472,000,000 DMU

a huge 1,747,200 Life Force to spend on upgrades... my average upgrade is at least 100-200k LF

So I can upgrade 17 things at the most...

I thought I was doing reasonably well for myself putting a lot into my ascended account from main... thats why I have 14mill lifers out of a 26mill armysize... again this has just proven how big a difference that is... and how little small people get and can upgrade...

so if someone comes in here again and says oh I can only spend xxx trillion naq a week and it will only give me 60 upgrades... come back down to my level and see how little I get for my weeks income/LF

My main and ascended account aren't huge... but I've put the effort in... what these upgrades are for is so that I(WE - The little people) will actually get to experience a side of the ascension server will be able to feel even remotely godlike... at the moment I'm nothing more than a small fly to be squashed at anyones whim... and I've put a lot more than other people by comparison into my ascended account... what pains me is that someone who will come along and ascend once now with 1.4mill app (as a rough number of what I can ascend with (LG+2) and overtake me almost instantly... (and it will be there first ascension)

I've been contemplating buying DMU so I can get more LF as at the previous rates it wasn't worth me sacrificing 10 trill naq spent on my main account to get 46,200,000 LF (33:1 LF:APP Conversion rate) where I could buy 1 trill DMU for 1.5-4 trillion main naq and get 100,000,000 LF from converting it...

As the ascended server is right now its just not worth people ascending for APP because you get f*ck all... after these updates its going to be worth me ascending again because I have a chance of getting 2,100,000,000 LF (at 1500:1) but even then this wont give me the fabled 300 Charisma or the 300 Production enhancements to get 10million planets a day or 500bill/turn income...

So please can we stop taking about crazy numbers which SOME people will get but 75% of the people ascending WILL NOT GET

Even if I did the same ascension 5 times (with the same sacrifices in main) I would have a enough LF to get those fabled amounts but my main account would be totally useless! (not that it isn't now to be fair!)

The Ascension server as it is now is just impossible for me to balance a good main account with a good ascended account...

God knows what I'll do if I ever actually get a FANTASTIC Main or a FANTASTIC Ascended Account with 10million planets a day and 100bill/turn income...

But to have a main account of 100mill+ and an ascended account of 100mill+ must be a real downer...

Given the time and foresight I would have started playing this game the moment it came out if I knew the chances of my catching up were so damn hard... My main account is FINALLY over 25mill armysize... my ascended account is a measly 1.5mill (getting massed up there is harsh as you lose lots especially when initiate revolution comes and kicks away your ability to rebuild)

But still I keep trying to climb the ladder on both... at least on main I can keep my miners and just carry on climbing... but ascension I climb the ladder and then it get kicked out from under me... and somebody runs away with the bottom 10 steps of my ladder... so I have to wait and get another ladder... which all takes time/resources which just keep getting taken away


TheRook