changes in ascension/main going to production

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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

Sinister wrote:
Forum wrote:last minute change...i added it back in when i set the minimum UP to ascend above 10...
Myseri wrote:I thought once you hit 10 ascensions, everything after that doesn't give a +1% bonus to main anymore



If we can ascend 14 more times and get 14%more.. ill be ascending with the bare minimum just for the boost to my main account. Its what everyone else will be doing.


Lol are you sure?

I am AG and this is my minimum - (minimum 60000 required)

Have fun ascending at minimum :lol: :D
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

HippyFool wrote:
Sinister wrote:
Forum wrote:last minute change...i added it back in when i set the minimum UP to ascend above 10...
Myseri wrote:I thought once you hit 10 ascensions, everything after that doesn't give a +1% bonus to main anymore



If we can ascend 14 more times and get 14%more.. ill be ascending with the bare minimum just for the boost to my main account. Its what everyone else will be doing.


Lol are you sure?

I am AG and this is my minimum - (minimum 60000 required)

Have fun ascending at minimum :lol: :D


Thats not that bad, when you add them all up, its a decent amount of LF too.
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

Mietlan wrote:I was thinking about this daimon thing...
I think that it would be better this way:
leaving ascended plane you will loose ascended bonuses gained from ascensions + blessing, and take back bonuses from basic race(asgard def bonus, goa'uld income etc.) but you will keep ascended thechnology and weapons...
like they did with Daniel is sg1, he was descended but he still had ancient technology in his head, or it was something close to that

just my thoughts, what do you think?



i was trying to find something to say about Daimon upgrade because right now it is really bad idea. Mietlan just found the best one and i support.

if you don't loose anything when becoming a daimon and you even get descention imunity... that is not the good way to go if you want people to play ascention server.

but as mietlan say. in SG, daniel keep the knowledge without the power. so daimon should be a special race with ascended weaps but no ascended bonus... or maybe redistribute so they get in between lower races and ascended races.

And maybe make that Daimon is a race deprived of ascention capacity ... so people don't abuse it and go Daimon only if they really don't want to play ascended server. because they won't be able to come back !
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Forum wrote:oh - a note on the production server 'AP<>DMU' conversion rate not working properly regards the > 700Mil planet accounts... (it was supposed to get more expensive...)
1) the display was right, the 'deduction from account' was not.
2) i only today found out about this 'bug' (in short the update appears to never have worked as it should have.)
3) i have no way to say if anyone else noticed they were not 'paying the sticker price' for LF ... or whether they did notice, and kept quiet.
4) the issue is moot, since i used this update to ensure no advantage was gained by said increase in levels with 'underpriced' DMU -- i had to make levels a bit cheaper to do so, but that was the solution i chose over adjusting the account with > 700mil planets...

so - i cannot say anyone cheated versus not noticing the bug. i adjusted the level costs to compensate for this bug such that no permanent advantage was gained.
case closed.


Once again Jason, I must say that either you misunderstood the message that I sent you saying thanks for changing the DMU-LF conversion rate back to 10 million per 1000 LF after you said you were going to. Because it was at the displayed levels for about a week. Then a day or so after you said it would be changed, it was. And I sent you an email actually thanking you for doing so. Not sure if I mentioned that the display was all screwed up or anything. Apparently all emails from me are going into your spam folder. I won't bother emailing you about the absolutely HORRENDOUS update that you have made to ascension and main, thereby undoing years and years of effort on the part of so many and pretty much handing control of both servers over to the quick ascenders. Thanks so much!

I think this falls under the same category where you were all agog when DD started to use the SW as I said we would if and when you implemented it.

And because you reacted to it as you did, everyone thought DD was doing something wrong, when in fact we had your blessing. Now you are reacting to something that you should have known about shortly after the update went in, because the coding was right (ie. the displayed amount was the amount being deducted) for about a week. But then the rate changed back, though the display did not, and I figured it was just you changing the rate back but not the message. I thanked you for it in my email. You probably missed it because you probably assumed (and, at that time, I can't blame you for making the logical assumption) that it was another email telling you exactly how unfair the 700 million planet cap was, etc.

Folks, I knew about the rate change. Others knew about the rate change. In fact, it was another person (not in DD) that told me about it. Jason had said he was going to put the rate back to 10 million DMU per 1000 LF and it happened a day or so later. I didn't think anything of it, just thought that Jason had so much on his mind that he didn't change the display (an occurrence that is not infrequent amongst updates). The only thing that I did was to convert DMU to LF to store for the updates so I would be ready for when they came. Sorry if that constitutes an advantage (which Forum insists he compensated for in the updates). I know that the updates didn't do me any favors so believe me, I am taking it up the fourth point of contact without lubrication right now. Merry Christmas, quick ascenders. Christmas came early for you. Have fun ruling both servers. Thank you Jason. I have learned many valuable life lessons while playing your game.
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

What was more interesting for me was my Cosmic expansion rate went up 15 fold with my LF additions :shock:

P.S I was a slow ascender so my 2 million APP went a long way.
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

Well thanks for completly **Filtered** over the old players anyway, much appreciated. Why do I even bother to play. Now im going to HAVE to ascend AGAIN just to keep where I am, becayse lots of people got **Filtered** 5mil APP for free, which now is dead easy bt before was impossible! So thanks for thinking this through a lot.

Oh wait, I cant even ascend again, because fo the **Filtered** stupid UU cap! So yes im pretty much screwed in ascended, might aswell quit now. Sounds like a good idea actually..
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

im in the middle on this. i was never a quick ascender, but i did decent ascensions. get people doing decent ascensions now & with 2 or 3 of em & they will pass me up no problem.
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

i love all of updates...EXCEPT one....

bonus after 10th ascention...

u get 5% untill ur lg+1

and 1% untill ur AG

now why do those who ascend more than 10 times get bonuses too...i mean,stupid...in the end,they will have 44% bonus..come on....although it will take a while before anyone ascends 20 times.

and ignore those few that aren't happy and whine..u've done great updates for most of those who play ascended server....not everyone can be happy,this time those who "worked hard" aren't happy...so what? stop whining and play and nobody will catch up with ya.
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

Thanks alot for the update jason. I may have my own ideas and things that I fear but your tireless energy and attempts to bring this game onto new levels are much apprechiated.

I love the new daimon update aswell even though I doubt I will ever use it.

Once again thank you for your hard work, and for sticking it out even when we give you a hard time about things we personally are against. Its your game and your rules :) Something we tend to forget when we get too involved. :-D
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I spending MY time on this damn game and when something like that happens its all a waste. Its destroying MY TIME and EFFORT. This is completly stupid.
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hey ~Phoenix~
I think you forgot about APP with you earn every turn on ascended thanks to your main account(I'm not sure exacly how does it work)
you can transfer APP into LF with good rate, so you're still able to stay where you are.
for me ascended is now more balanced, for all, old players and those who just made first ascension
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

So, we either ascend again, or we lose all we have worked for in ascended. Because now anyone can do what some of us have been working on for a couple of years in one simple ascention.
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Yep that pretty much sums it up hells. Waste of time. Old guys are screwed.

Mietlen everyone gets 1app per turn but its nothing compared to what a few of us make every turn thru DMU even.
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Hells__Angel wrote:So, we either ascend again, or we lose all we have worked for in ascended. Because now anyone can do what some of us have been working on for a couple of years in one simple ascention.


Bingo, u got it, and after they get there ascension get all there main bonus, they can descend themselves and keep the bonus's just lose blessing, win, win for the guys who 1 don't wan't to play ascended, and 2 who want fast ascensions.

Maybe there should be a way for us who have been in ascended longer to send APP to ascension without having to ascend again, as someone can do in 1 ascension now what some of us built up over 18months - 2 years +
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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production

~Phoenix~ wrote:Well thanks for completly *modded* over the old players anyway, much appreciated. Why do I even bother to play. Now im going to HAVE to ascend AGAIN just to keep where I am, becayse lots of people got *modded* 5mil APP for free, which now is dead easy bt before was impossible! So thanks for thinking this through a lot.

Oh wait, I cant even ascend again, because fo the *modded* stupid UU cap! So yes im pretty much screwed in ascended, might aswell quit now. Sounds like a good idea actually..


I would have loved 5m APP, however as a quick ascender I only got 100k. Stop over reacting.
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