i did it

[Dark Bahamut]

Lol, gotta love how much this has stirred up response in the community either for or against it.

Personally, I could care less about the banning, if Forum felt that it needed to be done then so be it, this is all his, who are we to argue? lol

i suppose you cud call us investors

and some are very concerned lol

[Pungemo]

Ive stood up against the mods too. Just that Tok'ra was more vocal about it (granted I got banned for a week)

Same happened to me, and I was completely justified. Anyone even asking about it got banned, and I was banned for quite a while. Some things are just ridiculous.

[Hansbrough]

Look , who cares ...

Tok'ra isn't exactly an angel now is he. althougt he didn't brake any sort of rules eh.

but hes complaining was like ouchie ... annoying and the part of "stood up" against forum admins (not mods) is plain wrong as they run this forum how they like it to run.

besides if he didn't complain all the time and just behaved and told hes oppinion without he repeated himself 259 times than he would still have been here.

aaah well ,... politics they never gonna stop.

you forget, before he evaded his banning, he did break rules, such as
1. Incessant spamming.
2. Disrespect for the moderators, despite what he says.
3. Graphic vulgarity
4. Destruction of atmosphere
5. The object of innumberable complaints on the part of many members and moderators
6. Racism
7. Publicly posted the IP of a member.

Sorry Jamie, but I wish you hadn't brought this up... or did Tok'ra pay you to do it with multi-verse stuff? Honestly I'm hurt you're sticking up for him after the crap he pulled with me.

As for the rest of you sticking up for Tok'ra, you can just shove it!

[Lord_Zeus]

Hmm, very interesting, I think tok'ra could learn to better control his opinions... say what must be said yes but not spam it everywhere continuosly.

I do not think he should be banned from the forums however... Especially while the forums are being overhauled.

[Bad Wolf]

@ forum

Nobody does it half as good as you
Baby, you're the best


BW...Ever the Sly Fox

[J.S.]

Look , who cares ...

Tok'ra isn't exactly an angel now is he. althougt he didn't brake any sort of rules eh.

but hes complaining was like ouchie ... annoying and the part of "stood up" against forum admins (not mods) is plain wrong as they run this forum how they like it to run.

besides if he didn't complain all the time and just behaved and told hes oppinion without he repeated himself 259 times than he would still have been here.

aaah well ,... politics they never gonna stop.

you forget, before he evaded his banning, he did break rules, such as
1. Incessant spamming.
2. Disrespect for the moderators, despite what he says.
3. Graphic vulgarity
4. Destruction of atmosphere
5. The object of innumberable complaints on the part of many members and moderators
6. Racism
7. Publicly posted the IP of a member.

Sorry Jamie, but I wish you hadn't brought this up... or did Tok'ra pay you to do it with multi-verse stuff? Honestly I'm hurt you're sticking up for him after the crap he pulled with me.

As for the rest of you sticking up for Tok'ra, you can just shove it!

It's not the person it's the principle of the Bannings without a reason or for stupid ridicilious reasons. The points you have there are valid, but I don't know maybe im the forgiving trusting type..

But on the priniciple of it I mean whats to stop someone becoming a global mod/admin and then banning everyone in an enemy alliance just becuase they don't like them?

There should be reasons that people be banned.. Don't feel hurt mate and I'm sorry if you do but I'm standing up for the principle of it.. I would rather not see this place being turned into a whoever is a mod or whoever is friends with a mod can do whatever the hell they like..

And I wouldn't get paid anything to post something.. I'd mass someone if they paid me to do something

I dunno maybe I overreacted..

[Borek]

It's funny really J.S, you actually quoted a post giving reasons why he was banned, then go on to whine that you don't agree with the principle of banning with no reason. Umm, earth to planet J.S, there was EVERY reason to ban him, he THOROUGHLY deserved his banning, in fact he went WAY, WAY over the top rubbing the fact he was ban evading in which is partly why the mods got so fed up with him.

He's actually been banned since about 8 months ago, just no one stepped up to enforce it FULLY until Forum did.

He broke pretty much every rule, got banned, evaded that banning, broke the rules incessantly, kept getting banned and kept evading, in the end there was no other choice except a perma-ban. Quite frankly it should have been done months ago and he should also have had his accounts deleted, but better late than never and he's lucky Forum is a reasonable guy and didn't delete his accounts aswell.

But hey, you live in that special J.S world, so i'm sure you won't bother reading anything i've said just like you didn't read what you quoted in the last post, lol.

[Mystake]

Tok'ra is/was an idiot. Mystake, you're an idiot too. Have a nice life.

Am I supposed to be insulted? I'd offer to take it ingame but I can't because of your alliance. I don't think either of ours appreciate any insulting words from either of us though

[Zeratul]

so now we know why he isnt around anymore...

oh, well... good riddance...

for those complaining... this forum is Owned by Forum, so he decides what he wants to do with it...

if he wanted to, he could have let the mod team become true dictators... and you wouldnt have liked that...

now stop complaining about a decision made by the highest authority... complaining wont change the fact...

[agapooka]

Admin doesn't want, and I don't want a forum where people feel oppressed... and I've been feeling oppressed for months, so, don't plan on seeing my face for too long (I should change avy? )

Oppressed by what? Well, don't think I'm above being affected by anything that happens here; I'm not "sweeping things under the rug" like Tok`ra would have everyone believe. There are things that are meant to be known and others that aren't, and it's when you know more than you'd like from all illusions of sides, lies and truths alike, that you would feel sick to the stomach as I did and do.

Of course there are problems and concerns in life and everywhere therein, such as in this forum. Nothing is perfect, and I certainly don't pretend to be, but it's when I come to this place, accused of being corrupt and full of myself because of the power I supposedly have that a real problem is made... I stop giving a crap about this place because it's a waste of time to come here just to read the words of vindictive folk.

J

[smooshable]

The fact you have suggested he has anything in common with Mr.Mandela is quite honestly an insult to everything Mr.Mandela stands for. Far as i know Nelson Mandela doesn't get drunk and spam forums to get attention.

You can't suggest two things that Tok`ra may or may not do and say therefore he has NOTHING in common with the guy.

He was about freedom of speach and using it to speak out about a failed system. He was arrested an jailed for many years. Tok`ra is no Mandella but he has things in common.

Everyone should go over to [www.p2pfoundation.com] and read. This guy has spent years working on a PHD based on the idea of what makes online communities work and what makes them fail. This is a big no no. Check out this for an idea. [http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Collaborative_Moderation].

Smooshable

[Nuto vixen]

Forum, you say some things..... but they dont match what happend that I saw with my own two eyes..

i eliminated a forum account i saw as only demeaning the game, and the forums... and i saw this for WEEKS... finally i got annoyed enough to nix it...

Wow, he was back for SEVEN DAYS, and you blame him for multiple weeks of issues ........ well I know who to trust at least

http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 2af38c5dde


THAT was the first thread Tok`ra posted upon his return. Check the link above if you dont trust me. Assuming the thread itslef isnt deleted to hide the facts.

Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:36 pm < THAT is the timestamp of the first reply to it (as all of Tok`ra's posts are now gone)

Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:48 pm < THAT was when you posted this thread, shortly after deleting Tok`ra.

6 days. SIX DAYS. That is what you call weeks ?

1) contribute with thought
2) randomly compain about everything...

neither is bad. .. do #2 on EVERY post... for weeks on end... draw my attention... and (this is the real criteria here) try to off me adn the community on each post....
welcome to tomorrow ...

As seen above, you sir have LIED.

Tok`ra contributed with quite a bit of thought.

His complaints were hardly random, infact I remember a few posts in which he defended the mods. I also remember at least one thread in which he had a lenghty and civil discussion with a moderator over the issues, and ways to fix them (of course, all evidence of that is gone unless I find the thread again, and only if the mod quoted Tok`ra anywere)

Even worse, just before you delted his fourm account, he had PMd pookie with an offer to help fix the fourms.

I wonder if THAT had something to do with the deletion .........

So either the fourm administrator (pookie) asked you to do a hatchet job on a fourm user, or you did it on your own due to several of his posts annoying you.

So youre either easily lied to, or are a liar.

Which is it.

When are you going to build a bridge?

This forum BELONGS to Forum!
Its his!

It's not yours. It's not mine, we just like being here.

This is the very first time he has ever gone as far as banning someone and deleting their entire account. And you are still whining about how unfair it was?

Forum can do whatever the hell he likes with his own forum.

The sooner you accept this, the better off we will all be.

It's pathetic watching you few try to actually justify his actions. He more than deserved the ban/delete, and if you can't accept it, maybe you should move on and spare us all the pain of having to read your garbage about how he's gods gift to free speech. It's offending our intelligence.

[Borek]

Are you being deliberately stupid Judochop? You do know Tok'Ra has multiple forum accounts and has been posting for the better part of a year. Just because he made a new forum account to get around his latest banning it doesn't mean his previous posting history is going to be ignored by the staff. Yes, you heard me, his LATEST forum account, to get around YET ANOTHER banning.

As for you smoosh then tbh if you are still holding him up as some sort of free speech pariah then i'll just say good luck to you, because if you actually believe that you're gonna need it.

I don't care what some putz has done for his PHD, it doesn't change the fact that Tok'Ra is a grade A moron and got what he deserved. You seem to be saying that someone can post whatever they want, break all the rules, get banned, evade that banning multiple times, gloat about said ban evasion, constantly insult the staff, the game admins, and yet no one should do anything about it at all...Umm, No, as i said before, good riddence to bad rubbish, he broke the forum rules on multiple occassions, his banning was wayyyyyy overdue and for some strange reason there are still a few tools who think it wasn't justified.

Perhaps you can tell us all what WOULD justify a banning in your opinion? I mean, obviously you don't think that breaking every single rule isn't enough...

You might aswell say "he's my mate" as a reason for not banning him, because that at least i could understand.

[Nuto vixen]

It's pathetic watching someone who nolonger plays or has any reason what so ever to BE on the forums, talk for any reason.

A better statement directed at you would be...

Build an arguement

because you are just making yourself look like a fool.

That was your come back?

For someone who has just had the nerve to type "build an argument", you should take a good long look at what yours is trying to be, and then you'd realize why we are all sitting back laughing AT you.

I am on these forums because I want to be. Want me to leave? Too bad. I'm here to stay. I've been part of this game since it first started and I have very close ties to the community. I have met up with quite a few of them even.

What do you contribute to these forums besides the vulgar threads that got you banned and the obtuse manner in which you try and justify menace?

Not much.

[AncientAnubis]

I reject your reality and insert my own. ^^