Thread of unbelief

[Come_Forth]

This thread is for the promotion of religious unbelief, whether one is an atheist or agnostic. This thread is not only for those who are ubelievers but a place for believers to carry on dialogues with heathens. Atheist are the most hated people group at the United States. This a place for unbelievers to have a safe haven without being condemned to hell. Several good authors to read on the subject of the lack of religious belief are Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, Bobby Henderson, and of course Bertrand Russell. If you don't recognize the name Bobby Henderson he is the prophet of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
And of course there are benefits of unbelief for you pragmatics, if you stay home on Sunday you can save 10% of your income

[Apollo]

Thank you, Brother Buckner. Hi, I'm Apollo, and I don't buy into religion. Organised, or disorganised. This Epicurus quote is the cornerstone of my thoughts, and he puts it far better than I ever could.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

And I want to throw this in to the mix as well

The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. - Benjamin Franklin

And one more anonymous quote

Only sheep need shepherds!

Now, are we having wine and bickies?

*sits back down again*

[Come_Forth]

Nice quotes, and thanks for replying Tea and bisquits will probably suit the children better lol. I wanted to be fair so I went to the Answers In Genesis to look for a cartoon and found this:


Here is the Madman by Nietzsche :

THE MADMAN----Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"---As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?---Thus they yelled and laughed.
The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him---you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars---and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"

[semper]

All I will say is...
1. God
1. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
2. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
5. A very handsome man.
6. A powerful ruler or despot.

By definition I am a God.

Religion:
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

By definition, SGW, most sports... fashion... school... pick what you will, are all religion. As i find most of them pathetic, and I am sure someone will be able to find something akin that they hate, yet falls under the same definition as religion, well just go ahead and question religion (as in GOD) in the same manner... Surely if one is a sad devotion to a pathetic course, just creating a more shallow and uncharacterful society, why is the other not? Because it has been around longer? (fashion has been around longer then Jesus...) Because they have a book that is centuries old? (Ahem! The Karma Sutra! The Koran!) Or because they had a one true messiah? (David Beckham, Enter the Lion anyone?)

Soooo...so..so..so..so...I'll rest my case! I cant be bothered to go through the other endless arguments that no one can ever counter, the ones ive blurted out on this forum more times then Id care to consider.

can u feel it religious people! oooo yes! God its good to be good! lol...and thats the game! **gives the old tiger woods arm swing**

[semper]

(yeah I know its a double post..so what, Im a bad ass.. )

but...this topic..

http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... &start=120

its like catnip.. i just dont know where to start.. do I destroy..no..I cant..I have to be nice..resisting posting in there..is one of the most difficult tasks im having to do..

[Fear Of The Duck]

that always makes me laugh!!

By definition, SGW, most sports... fashion... school... pick what you will, are all religion.

aye! right! the funny thing is you are all BELIEVERS!! you BELIEVE in the non-existence of God, you believe in unbelief... and so on... thus atheism/agnosticism is your RELIGION.
and i can't see any discussion on youse part here, just slaggin'.

regarding that cartoon at the top:
alchemy - that's how the chemistry started out.
phrenology - so why do dumb ppl always look... well... dumb? (it's still a question)
magic - any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
astrology - that's how astronomy started out.

we can continue:
barter - wall street
hitting a treetrunk with a stick - symphony
attaching wings to one's back - jumbo jet
...

[Come_Forth]

Just because science started as bs does not mean that we should keep it that way It is unbelief because of the lack of religious belief, not that we hold no beliefs. That is why they call us unbelievers not believers

[Fear Of The Duck]

just most atheists i know go to the fortunetellers and read horoscopes while most of the christians i know don't.

[Come_Forth]

Yuck lol, all those people do is take your money.

[Fear Of The Duck]

thanx God not mine but well... as one of me teachers used to say: "one pays for ones braindamage"

[Milenko]

There is only one true religion:
http://www.venganza.org/

[Fear Of The Duck]

Important News

Urgent Action Needed - Senator David Vitter earmarks funds for Creationist Group

aye... senator... them bleedin' (spacey would edit out) never leave our money to ourselves!!

[Apollo]

I don't do horoscopes either, Corran. I'm with Douglas Adams on this one - how do big whirling lumps of gas billions of miles away know whether you are going to have a good day or not?

And I'm not a believer in disbelief. It's just that at this time, I havn't seen any evidence that convinces me. Only truths that convince me that there isn't. If my kids want to go to church when they are older, I'm more than happy to take them. I'll be the one in the back pew with the iPod, though.

[Milenko]

The brightest star in our skies is the "dog star", Sirius. It is so far that its light takes 430 years to reach us. So really, they are telling is what day we had 400 hundred + years ago

[Fear Of The Duck]

I don't do horoscopes either, Corran. I'm with Douglas Adams on this one - how do big whirling lumps of gas billions of miles away know whether you are going to have a good day or not?

cos there's powerfull aliens in them. ask tom cruise...

It's just that at this time, I havn't seen any evidence that convinces me.

confinces to what? that god exist and stuff? well.. neither have i. or that god doesn't exist and stuff? neither have i. that's why this is faith.

I'll be the one in the back pew with the iPod, though.

no manners

The brightest star in our skies is the "dog star", Sirius. It is so far that its light takes 430 years to reach us. So really, they are telling is what day we had 400 hundred + years ago

now.. they knew 430 yrs ago what day we have now.

hey! wait a minute! we are actually far more influenced, both gravitationaly and radiationaly, by all the satelites ppl put in orbits. but them orbits are hellishly complicated... that's the way THEY try to control us and meke us THEIR slaves!!

THEY - international chinese communist western imperialist alien conspiracy of penguins