Are you pleased that Tok`ra is gone?

[*~Starry~*]

Well, I bet if we made a poll a another person, the results won't be so much different from tok'ra 's..

I think we should try to emcompass everyone's viewpoints more gracefully ^_^

[mondomadmun]

I was not around for his previous bannings, but I don't see how he is seen in such a dark way. Yeah he was in your face, but I have always thought if you excercise tolerance of those views that arent your own its fairly easy to get along with someone who opposes everything that you beleive in.

He did "spam" threads, and he did have a lot of view points that opposed the current and past mods... but I would like to beleive this forum operates in a democratic way, not so much a tyrannical dictatorship.

I think he brought some life in the forums, he broke rules yes, but he definetley made me think outside the box more than once - even when it would of been easy to dismiss his opinion as herecy.

I do NOT beleive his ban was unjustified nor am I saying that he didn't bring it on himself, I simply enjoyed reading his threads and posts, especially the way he dealt with the hatred so many feel towards him (and he didn't even harm your children/family/loved ones)

[Borek]

Well i'm glad he's gone, but like last time i see nothing to stop him coming back which makes this thread a mockery. I was pleased last 2 times he got perma banned but they each lasted less than 3 days so forgive me if i restrain my excitment for the time being.

[Mystake]

absolutely not.

he was unbanned by the head admin for a reason...

[Nuto vixen]

absolutely not.

he was unbanned by the head admin for a reason...

And re-banned for almost the same reasons?

You were noble to have faith in someone who didn't serve it, but he came back and did the exact same things that we all wanted him gone for.

I hope you can see why it was a mistake now.

[Come_Forth]

I can see why some people don't like Tok`ra because there are major negatives, but I believe he had a positive influence on the forum. I don't want to debate my views just post that not everyone hates him. However one major issue I disagree with Tok`ra on is the previous admins of the forums, I have liked every admin that we have had.

[Nuto vixen]

I believe he had a positive influence on the forum.

How on earth can you say that?

Most peoples opinions on him is that he was a very negative influence on the forums.

If you are going to make a comment like that, you really need to have something to back it up, because as it stands, that is an outrageous thing to say.

[Almost38]

I believe he had a positive influence on the forum.

How on earth can you say that?

Most peoples opinions on him is that he was a very negative influence on the forums.

If you are going to make a comment like that, you really need to have something to back it up, because as it stands, that is an outrageous thing to say.

isnt he entitled to his own opinion...

[mondomadmun]

I believe he had a positive influence on the forum.

How on earth can you say that?

Most peoples opinions on him is that he was a very negative influence on the forums.

If you are going to make a comment like that, you really need to have something to back it up, because as it stands, that is an outrageous thing to say.

Could you explain to me how he had a negative influence on the forums? There are always two sides of the fence, and its always a lot easier to see the ground on your side.

[Nuto vixen]

I believe he had a positive influence on the forum.

How on earth can you say that?

Most peoples opinions on him is that he was a very negative influence on the forums.

If you are going to make a comment like that, you really need to have something to back it up, because as it stands, that is an outrageous thing to say.

isnt he entitled to his own opinion...

Of course he is, but if he is going to come out and say things like that, then he should at least back up his view points with some sort of valid reason for it, or it had no merit at all.

[Almost38]

why were not asking you to explain yourself...

[Nuto vixen]

Could you explain to me how he had a negative influence on the forums? There are always two sides of the fence, and its always a lot easier to see the ground on your side.

-Constant spamming of the General section
-Constantly claiming that due to the fact that General section hasn't been "properly defined" to him, that he is no breaking any rules by posting pointless and stupid threads that noone is interested in.
-Constantly trying to make trouble where there otherwise was none.
-Constantly have a stab at either current or former moderators/admins of this forum.
-Constantly bashing his own ideas and opinions on the forum when for the most part people rarely asked for his opinion, nor cared what it was.
-Constantly disrespecting particular forum moderators that he didn't agree with, or like.
-Constantly claiming to be lamb of god/martyr for the right of the forum, when he was in fact the source of most of the forums problems.
-Insisting on defying moderators with the excuse that "there is no rule against it".
-Constantly creating controversial threads to feed his attention addiction and stir trouble up, as well as create mess for the moderators to clean up.
-Constantly creating threads in the inappropriate sections when knowing full well that they were in the inappropriate sections. (again, drawing the "no one has defined the general section" card).

This in the real world is what you call a Menace to society. This is not the "real world", granted, but it is a place that people like to come to relax, to read, to sometimes post about their wars and to read something interesting. No one should have to tolerate people like Tok'ra, just because it is his right to be a pain in the neck.

It is our right to be able to say "you know what, he is really making this place unpleasant for the majority of people, can something be done."

In this case, it wasn't even the people who voted him off. Though I don't have any doubt they would have if given half a chance. It was Forum, you may remember him from such games as Stargatewars, Stargatewars; Quantum, Stargatwars; Chaos, Stargatewars; Ascension.

He is doing the right thing by us. He is making a lot of wishes come true.

If he thought it was in the best interested to keep the Menace around, he would still be around.

Now tell me again how he was a positive influence on the forums?

[12agnar0k]

tokra's not so bad, i vote no.

[Dralan]

I woted No.. this is just wrong. Like or dislike tok'ra all you want but the reason for banning him is insane as it was not a breach of the rules as they stand right now.

So basicly anyone can be banned for not doing anything wrong as long as a mod or something dislikes you.. bah.. I really don't like the implications of such a ban.

[Apadizamek]

No i'm not.


To be honest he could be annoying and crude and foul. But he did have some good points, i have yet to see him make a topic cheering YOUR banning nuto. He should NOT have been banned ingame for something done on the forum, that is completely unacceptable.

Your banning of him ingame is exactly what you banned him for on the forum, bringing forum matters ingame. He got Dadigi's ingame and he's a MORON for pushing it too far. i told him not to. But banning him ingame disgusts me.

And so does this topic. its no better then a forum snuff film.