Are you pleased that Tok`ra is gone?

[Almost38]

Could you explain to me how he had a negative influence on the forums? There are always two sides of the fence, and its always a lot easier to see the ground on your side.

-Constant spamming of the General section
-Constantly claiming that due to the fact that General section hasn't been "properly defined" to him, that he is no breaking any rules by posting pointless and stupid threads that noone is interested in.
-Constantly trying to make trouble where there otherwise was none.
-Constantly have a stab at either current or former moderators/admins of this forum.
-Constantly bashing his own ideas and opinions on the forum when for the most part people rarely asked for his opinion, nor cared what it was.
-Constantly disrespecting particular forum moderators that he didn't agree with, or like.
-Constantly claiming to be lamb of god/martyr for the right of the forum, when he was in fact the source of most of the forums problems.
-Insisting on defying moderators with the excuse that "there is no rule against it".
-Constantly creating controversial threads to feed his attention addiction and stir trouble up, as well as create mess for the moderators to clean up.
-Constantly creating threads in the inappropriate sections when knowing full well that they were in the inappropriate sections. (again, drawing the "no one has defined the general section" card).

This in the real world is what you call a Menace to society. This is not the "real world", granted, but it is a place that people like to come to relax, to read, to sometimes post about their wars and to read something interesting. No one should have to tolerate people like Tok'ra, just because it is his right to be a pain in the neck.

It is our right to be able to say "you know what, he is really making this place unpleasant for the majority of people, can something be done."

In this case, it wasn't even the people who voted him off. Though I don't have any doubt they would have if given half a chance. It was Forum, you may remember him from such games as Stargatewars, Stargatewars; Quantum, Stargatwars; Chaos, Stargatewars; Ascension.

He is doing the right thing by us. He is making a lot of wishes come true.

If he thought it was in the best interested to keep the Menace around, he would still be around.

Now tell me again how he was a positive influence on the forums?

and the real reason he was banned posting who greengoblin was and give dadigi id out which forum changed

[Nuto vixen]

I woted No.. this is just wrong. Like or dislike tok'ra all you want but the reason for banning him is insane as it was not a breach of the rules as they stand right now.

So basicly anyone can be banned for not doing anything wrong as long as a mod or something dislikes you.. bah.. I really don't like the implications of such a ban.

Tokra did many things "wrong". Read above. It was well deserved and well justified.

[Borek]

to be honest this is exactly why i asked for the new admin team to clearly define the rules, which they of course have not done. IMO the rules need to be clear and the punishments for breaking the rules likewise clear.

Mind you as i already said i don't believe Tok'Ra will be kept away, the last 2 perma bannings made no difference and he probably already has a new game account, assuming forum doesn't just cave in like last time and unban him anyway...

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Dear "Certain Mods"

Honestly why do u let tokra get under your skin seriously!, personally i think this ban was a "i got u last ban" not a justified ban, i dunno why u spend so much time analyzing tokra post, man o man if you spent half the time trying to beat tokra in this got dam mind game into ur $hitty ingame accounts maybe u have a bite that can back up your bark on the forums, ya thats right i swore what u going to do about it? OBVIOUSLY not much since your to dam worried about whats tokras next move



Im going to leave a famous quote made by pungemo

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SUCK MY CHOOK!

[bladeswin]

-Constant spamming of the General section
->> Not being disputed.

-Constantly claiming that due to the fact that General section hasn't been "properly defined" to him, that he is no breaking any rules by posting pointless and stupid threads that noone is interested in.
->> Although extremely annoying, I don't believe his assumption is inherently false. Posting pointless and stupid threads makes him an @$$, not a criminal.

-Constantly trying to make trouble where there otherwise was none.
->> True, but nothing is wrong with trouble.

-Constantly have a stab at either current or former moderators/admins of this forum.
->> And...? We bash government officials daily, but they don't get banished out of the country.

-Constantly bashing his own ideas and opinions on the forum when for the most part people rarely asked for his opinion, nor cared what it was.
->> And...? Reminds me of something an annoying person once said when he was bashing his opinions on others. DON'T TASE ME BRO. - I can say that. I'm a Gator.

-Constantly disrespecting particular forum moderators that he didn't agree with, or like.
->> Again, gripes are normal. I wasn't informed that one had to worship the mods to be permitted to post here. In that case, I'm glad I only post sparingly, as for the most part I'd probably be in the same boat. If personal opinions are the criterion for banning, it's a sad state.

-Constantly claiming to be lamb of god/martyr for the right of the forum, when he was in fact the source of most of the forums problems.
->> Interesting assumption. Although he is by no means a martyr, the problem seems to come from both his idiocy and the responses made by the forum mods. Tok'ra's like those people from that wacked american church that protests soldiers' funerals. The more you hate them, the more they claim to be martyred, the more they act up. It's a cycle. Tok'ra's in the cycle.

-Insisting on defying moderators with the excuse that "there is no rule against it".
->>Again, if worshiping the moderators is the law and any dissent isn't tolerated, it only makes the forums look like a monarchy, with Admin on the throne and the mods his loyal knights. If such is true, it doesn't present a very appealing facade.

-Constantly creating controversial threads to feed his attention addiction and stir trouble up, as well as create mess for the moderators to clean up.
-->Controversy = mess = delete? I didn't realize the forums were being whitewashed. We have always been at war with oceania?

-Constantly creating threads in the inappropriate sections when knowing full well that they were in the inappropriate sections. (again, drawing the "no one has defined the general section" card).
--> Okay, not disputing this one either.

This in the real world is what you call a Menace to society. This is not the "real world", granted, but it is a place that people like to come to relax, to read, to sometimes post about their wars and to read something interesting. No one should have to tolerate people like Tok'ra, just because it is his right to be a pain in the neck.

--> Interesting statement, the last sentence. If he has a right to be a pain in the neck, then in fact, he has the right to speak. No one has to listen, respond, etc. That's their choice, and for that Tok'ra is not to blame. It's like the saying I hear often "you have the right to speak, but not the right to force us to listen." He's not forcing you to listen. You can ignore him. Instead, the choice was made to oppose him at every turn, publicly criticise his actions, and give him more attention, just like this thread has done.

It is our right to be able to say "you know what, he is really making this place unpleasant for the majority of people, can something be done."
In this case, it wasn't even the people who voted him off. Though I don't have any doubt they would have if given half a chance. It was Forum, you may remember him from such games as Stargatewars, Stargatewars; Quantum, Stargatwars; Chaos, Stargatewars; Ascension.

--> So...lemme see if I've got this. You have the right to complain (true) and based on complaints, Forum can sweep in and ban him just because he's a pest. Good to know. We have always been at war with Oceania indeed.

He is doing the right thing by us. He is making a lot of wishes come true.
If he thought it was in the best interested to keep the Menace around, he would still be around.
Now tell me again how he was a positive influence on the forums?

--> In conclusion, a pest, an annoyance, a royal pain in the mik'ta is gone. Your statement concludes that since Forum removed him, it must be the best option. Now tell me again how this "society" you have described as this forum is a good thing? You've stated that through censorship, banning based on opinion, and restriction of criticism for the elite in status, we can all have a better brighter world. So long as we don't question Big Brother.

Jake

[Almost38]

-Constant spamming of the General section
->> Not being disputed.

-Constantly claiming that due to the fact that General section hasn't been "properly defined" to him, that he is no breaking any rules by posting pointless and stupid threads that noone is interested in.
->> Although extremely annoying, I don't believe his assumption is inherently false. Posting pointless and stupid threads makes him an @$$, not a criminal.

-Constantly trying to make trouble where there otherwise was none.
->> True, but nothing is wrong with trouble.

-Constantly have a stab at either current or former moderators/admins of this forum.
->> And...? We bash government officials daily, but they don't get banished out of the country.

-Constantly bashing his own ideas and opinions on the forum when for the most part people rarely asked for his opinion, nor cared what it was.
->> And...? Reminds me of something an annoying person once said when he was bashing his opinions on others. DON'T TASE ME BRO. - I can say that. I'm a Gator.

-Constantly disrespecting particular forum moderators that he didn't agree with, or like.
->> Again, gripes are normal. I wasn't informed that one had to worship the mods to be permitted to post here. In that case, I'm glad I only post sparingly, as for the most part I'd probably be in the same boat. If personal opinions are the criterion for banning, it's a sad state.

-Constantly claiming to be lamb of god/martyr for the right of the forum, when he was in fact the source of most of the forums problems.
->> Interesting assumption. Although he is by no means a martyr, the problem seems to come from both his idiocy and the responses made by the forum mods. Tok'ra's like those people from that wacked american church that protests soldiers' funerals. The more you hate them, the more they claim to be martyred, the more they act up. It's a cycle. Tok'ra's in the cycle.

-Insisting on defying moderators with the excuse that "there is no rule against it".
->>Again, if worshiping the moderators is the law and any dissent isn't tolerated, it only makes the forums look like a monarchy, with Admin on the throne and the mods his loyal knights. If such is true, it doesn't present a very appealing facade.

-Constantly creating controversial threads to feed his attention addiction and stir trouble up, as well as create mess for the moderators to clean up.
-->Controversy = mess = delete? I didn't realize the forums were being whitewashed. We have always been at war with oceania?

-Constantly creating threads in the inappropriate sections when knowing full well that they were in the inappropriate sections. (again, drawing the "no one has defined the general section" card).
--> Okay, not disputing this one either.

This in the real world is what you call a Menace to society. This is not the "real world", granted, but it is a place that people like to come to relax, to read, to sometimes post about their wars and to read something interesting. No one should have to tolerate people like Tok'ra, just because it is his right to be a pain in the neck.

--> Interesting statement, the last sentence. If he has a right to be a pain in the neck, then in fact, he has the right to speak. No one has to listen, respond, etc. That's their choice, and for that Tok'ra is not to blame. It's like the saying I hear often "you have the right to speak, but not the right to force us to listen." He's not forcing you to listen. You can ignore him. Instead, the choice was made to oppose him at every turn, publicly criticise his actions, and give him more attention, just like this thread has done.

It is our right to be able to say "you know what, he is really making this place unpleasant for the majority of people, can something be done."
In this case, it wasn't even the people who voted him off. Though I don't have any doubt they would have if given half a chance. It was Forum, you may remember him from such games as Stargatewars, Stargatewars; Quantum, Stargatwars; Chaos, Stargatewars; Ascension.

--> So...lemme see if I've got this. You have the right to complain (true) and based on complaints, Forum can sweep in and ban him just because he's a pest. Good to know. We have always been at war with Oceania indeed.

He is doing the right thing by us. He is making a lot of wishes come true.
If he thought it was in the best interested to keep the Menace around, he would still be around.
Now tell me again how he was a positive influence on the forums?

--> In conclusion, a pest, an annoyance, a royal pain in the mik'ta is gone. Your statement concludes that since Forum removed him, it must be the best option. Now tell me again how this "society" you have described as this forum is a good thing? You've stated that through censorship, banning based on opinion, and restriction of criticism for the elite in status, we can all have a better brighter world. So long as we don't question Big Brother.

Jake

[Borek]

Just like to point out that the guy who shouted "Don't Tase me bro" got Tased

[Nuto vixen]

Big Brother IS the forum.

If you don't like the way the "system" runs, then remove yourself from it, don't create a mess for others who are ok with it.

[Come_Forth]

Of course he is, but if he is going to come out and say things like that, then he should at least back up his view points with some sort of valid reason for it, or it had no merit at all.

Cold....The reason is simple why I believe that Tok`ra has a positive influence; he is always there to critic and question things. He does not go with the grain; he is independent. The forum requires balance to stay healthy, and Tok`ra provides us with an extreme to save us all from group-think.

[Almost38]

Big Brother IS the forum.

If you don't like the way the "system" runs, then remove yourself from it, don't create a mess for others who are ok with it.

if you dont like tokra why do you read his post?

[Nuto vixen]

Big Brother IS the forum.

If you don't like the way the "system" runs, then remove yourself from it, don't create a mess for others who are ok with it.

if you dont like tokra why do you read his post?

When one's opinion is constantly thrust in your face, you cannot avoid it.

And why should I, or anyone else on these forums have to suffer?

By the way, I love how all of these multies have come on the forum all the sudden and voted "no".

Yes, I am checking the online status, and there have been an awful lot of 0 post members suddenly on the forums...

Gee, wonder what they could be doing.

Falsifying a poll isn't really creating a realistic reflection now is it.

[Borek]

Big Brother IS the forum.

If you don't like the way the "system" runs, then remove yourself from it, don't create a mess for others who are ok with it.

if you dont like tokra why do you read his post?

Can't miss his posts mate, that's the problem, he spammed everywhere. Believe me if there was a setting to let me automatically ignore all his posts then i would have been using it

[Almost38]

oh now ur mad people like tokra get over it

[Borek]

oh now ur mad people like tokra get over it

Yup, some people do like him and always will, but unfortunately for Tok'Ra the ones who don't happen to run the game and the Forum.

[Nuto vixen]

Again, some admin/mod said about the ignore feature.

you COULDA used that, hmmm now i just did pwneded you and your arguement. BYAHHH!!!(in just Chappelle fashion).

It doesn't stop the threads from appearing, just the posts.

OMGZ0R, YOU JUST GOTZ PWNED SO BAAADDD, YEAH WOOWOLOLZCOPTER...

Yeah, mature...