Joe Horn: Hero or Villain

[Spacey]

Really? What else do you get in return for your time? When you go to work, are you not exchanging your time plus the sweat on your brow for money? It'd be nice if we could all live off the land like they did a hundred years ago, but that's just not feasible anymore

You get more for you time than money.

So then why not do all you can to defend the victims? If you shot everyone that broke into your home people would eventually stop breaking into your home

I don't agree with that (last sentence). I hope, for his sake and that of his family, there is no escalation or retribution.

[deathcomestoall789]

Well after an extremely long amount of time I managed to read the whole topic. And I have come to the simple conclusion that i agree 100% with everything Spacey has said. By saying that it saves me writing out a complete post saying everything that Spacey has said.

Also I hope any Americans don't take my next sentence the wrong way and understand that i'm not having a go at them or their constitution. I would just like to say that by having the clause in your constitution saying Americans have the right to own guns (or something to that effect, i cant remember the exact wording) was/is a major flaw. Sure, your forefathers who put it there had the best of intentions but its major effect is an extremely higher murder and gun shootings rate in the world.

Quite obviously it is to late to take it out now for the backlash it would cause from Americans, but you all simply have to many weapons. Reduce the Weapons = Reduce the Crimes. You all seem to all seem to think that Increasing the Weapons = Reduces the Crimes.

[The Iron Duke]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

[deathcomestoall789]

How did you bring England into this? I merely pointed out that there is way more killings in America because of the exorbitant amount of guns that can be readily accessed. Majority of Americans believe that by having guns they are making themselves and their families safer, it would be far far far safer having little or no guns in America as a whole.

[Spacey]

IDK about the world you're living in Spacey, cause it clearly ain't the real world.

You've created an opinion poll and are soliciting opinions. If you don't like what the opinions are why ask? It's almost like your getting upset because everyone doesn't agree. Therefore, the veiled (or not) insults really aren't needed.

[Apadizamek]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

bwahahahaha.

Thats hilarious, completely and utterly wrong to the point of stupidity, but hilarious.

[Angnoch]

wow this topic has degraded into a shouting match I give up I gave my opinion and totally justifiable and tenable points to back that up I can do more when people obviously value money more than HUMAN LIFE

[semper]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

bwahahahaha.

Thats hilarious, completely and utterly wrong to the point of stupidity, but hilarious.

dont call him stupid.

[Apadizamek]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

bwahahahaha.

Thats hilarious, completely and utterly wrong to the point of stupidity, but hilarious.

dont call him stupid.

To the point of Semper my dear bud, to the point of, he's on the precipice.

[Thageneral]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

I take serious offense to that. I should tell you why you are wrong in so many ways, but i dont think you'd comprehende it and you're definately not worth the time explaining such things at the expense of my time in class.

back to cisco now!

[Thageneral]

okay, to explain briefly why i take serious offense to that.


I'm from an area and a culture that produced the genre of bluegrass and country music, and inspired the show "beverly hillbillies" and are commenly called rednecks and hillbillies (a fact which i am quite proud of btw). Any jokes about anyone in my area even being able to turn on a computer? Go ahead, take a shot.

We have a lesser quality of life to outsiders because they do not see constant suburbs and high buildings and massive ammounts of technology.

And for your information, many people in the south that are called hillbillies origionally came from the UK. Our culture came from there. So dont complain about us since you spawned us!

[stephen sarsfield]

Trigger happy hillbillies. The southern states are a messed up place. Wanna know the reason why there is so much armed crime in America? When there are more guns per head in Canada and New Zealand (im struggling to understand the availability of firearms is wider spread in these two countries yet still there is more shootings per capita in USA than any other developed nation) ...well...because your a bunch of illiterate whack jobs who take patriotism to the point of obsession. Need to widen the gene pool a bit lads...maybe go to school. You will find the world has a whole new meaning then

That, as you described "bunch of illiterate whack jobs" kicked your sorry British arses twice already. Also if it wasn't for them you'd be speaking German now.

On topic: voted HERO. It takes a lot of guts for a peaceful, law-abiding elderly man just to face scumbags, and even more to pull the trigger. This man had a courage to do what he thought right.

[semper]

That, as you described "bunch of illiterate whack jobs" kicked your sorry British arses twice already. Also if it wasn't for them you'd be speaking German now.

that old chess nut is getting a bit tiresome. We held adolf and the bosh for ages. A little involvement at the end of the war dosent count as saving our asses. Just remember son shine you would all either be speaking french or spanish if it wernt for US, in fact you might not even be what you are now. So if were gonna start using history to drop the subtle reminders.. just remember THAT fact before you so much as DARE to try and take that silly little route.

As your american buddy quite nicely put it..

you spawned us!

yes we did...

lol..silly americans, you wonder why the world despises you.. i tell you, its not because we envy you..

[semper]

To the point of Semper my dear bud, to the point of, he's on the precipice.

didnt say you had called him stupid. I was just telling you not to do so.

[deathcomestoall789]

lol..silly americans, you wonder why the world despises you.. i tell you, its not because we envy you..

lmao

Anyway like it was pointed out earlier in this topic, it is degrading so I will leave it now.