Possible Script Use

[Hatchery]

I was logged every 3 hours out..
And it was done for such protection..
I am still wondering how they can ban ppl only by suppose that s1 had cheated in their opinion..
I wrote that Admin lies because in the first message he lied me writing that i was logged continously fo almost a month..
And then changed mind and wrote to me "large periods of time"..
It only shows that it is a piece of crap..
Mark said that he will forward his findings to Jason i hope he is more resolute then Mark and we will be unbaned..
Anyways i will not let it be like it is now..
Some rules are clear.. you have a proof then we will ban you.. Otherways they are not able to punish only by their feelings..

Greetings
Pepl

PS. Thx Reborn. Atleast second person that is not form AB that losses to PA and see that something here is wrong..

[Lt spears]

cant be bothered to find the post made by a PA member right now but it mentioned waking up every 3 hours to bank naq.

[Liquidfoxx]

Even if i sit a whole day next to my LCD and set alarm on my mobphone for 2 or 3 hours,when i sleep.I was wake up only to notice i was late a few minutes,but rarely

There we go... sets it for 3 hours, most likely to reset the script.

[Bugo]

I know my english is far from perfect, but i think, that i was made myself clear.Lern to read with understanding, please.
I still must set alarm in the night time,but without some of my planets, my income is a little lower and i can wake up and bank after 4 or 5 hours now.

*And now your genius mind will tell you,that i must have a brand new version of this legendary "script" 5 hours working*

When i will go on vacation, you will "see" in action my 3 weeks working "script"

[Trife]

isn't this the like the 8th time PA's been involved with cheating problems?

adminmark explained to you how you cheated. he doesn't need to show you proof. if you don't 'believe' the game admin then you didn't need to be playing here anyway.

it just sounds like you're upset you got caught and to that i say

boo hoo

and

good riddance

[Rav3n]

isn't this the like the 8th time PA's been involved with cheating problems?

No.
The 2 guys who put PA in troubles are banned/deleted looong time ago.

[vinny d]

Guys who speak polish as there first language are being made to defend themselves when they do not have a full mastery of the English language. That is complete bs. There has not been enough proof presented to ban these guys. What would be the purpose of having a script that banked after four minutes. If these guys where cheating wouldn't they at least cheat the best to their ability? You still steal naq from them so obviously they use a script that makes them bank at the turn change. I believe this is a bogus claim and Rav3n you know I support you my friend,

[Liquidfoxx]

The thing is most of them who ae still playing have turned this scirpt off since their mates got found out.

Who cares that they can't speak the full english language, they still cheated as far as i'm concerned, that's no excuse.

We showed that they were banking pretty much 24/7 since the war started as their defence was not changing before and after turn change, but their naq was. Since we've got people in all timezones, this monitoring was easy.

AdminMark told Pepl that he found they were banking every 1-4 minutes, from what i gathered. AdminMark doesn't have to show the evidence, he never has in any other case, so why now?

As far as i'm concerned, they got caught cheating. Sucks to be them.

[Lord Silent Bob]

The fact that instead of being polite and patient you've turned angry and abusive goes some way towards showing your Guilt,

As for the logging out after 3 hours....when I do massive raiding runs I keep note of where my login time is, I simply log out and log in again so my page doesn't time out in the middle of a raid...it's not hard to keep track.

Pepl has already admitted to having a "personalized browser" which auto fills the details....add an autoclick script to that and you can bank indefinably only re-logging in every 3 hours.

Much the same as people were doing buying mercs before the merc update

Now, the ratio of banned cheats per number of members in PA has risen to new heights, first a network of 30 multi accounts feeding them and now this. why am I not surprised. certainly shows why they never have any decent defenses.(they don't need them!!) ...and for that matter why a war is of no concern to them. their dirty tactics and ways are well known, as far as I'm concerned.........Good Riddance and Goodbye. this will be a better game without you

[Hatchery]

AdminMark told Pepl that he found they were banking every 1-4 minutes, from what i gathered. AdminMark doesn't have to show the evidence, he never has in any other case, so why now?

LOL..
Dude..
You are reading wrong!
AdminMark send it to me in the first massage thinking that i will agree with him what will be a real proof...
In next massage it was 180 degrees other answer containing only suppose from admin. So i demand proof! That what he is thinking not interested me..
His massages shows that he banned me and my friends only by that what he feels.. Not for strong proof.. And thats what you only shows (logs) form couple of hours and showed on the forum is piece of crap. No1 even send in this time any massage to any player in game asking why money are banked.. Then you could see human activity by answering this massage...

So LiqiudFox you are only frustrated that you dont have a proof and we will be unbanned earlier or later and then we again sit on your ass..
Your AB alliance looked everywhere to only end this war.. We have talked with others, couple days before you wrote this crap on forum, and i joked that now tha only thing what AB can do is accuse us of cheating..

So sad.. but true is..We are not guilty..
You don't have a proof ...
Admin not even have any logs..
If he would have one then he will be the first to show the truth to whole world.. I feel he don't like us too.. so for him it will be a great pleasure also..
Now we have to fight to unban us..
I am asking others to help us.. Alone it will be hard to win this unfair war.

Greetings
Pepl

[Rav3n]

Strange.
Last time I see good prooven ban it was logs: who, how much, and when hit.
I thing logs are still saved so it is no prob for admins filter ID and make a list:
date/time logged
date/time banked naq
date/time banked naq
...
date/time logged
...
I think that will clear up all that mess.

Bur let me say that again: that was a weekend, and we was at war.... we still @ war ;] Only our fault is we are faster :]
I play SGW on GPRS connection over half year (from about 4 months I filally have soma crap ADSL) , so I have to found proper browser settings to make pages load faster. I show this my alliance mates. If we are too fast it`s only my fault :/
About "customized browser": IE and FFox (and all others too!) have option to save filled forms. I have saved my login/pass so at login page I only need to put proper PIN (inproper sometimes too:])... I think most of ppl have this setting turned on...

[Mukasa]

lmao...cheaters finally got what they deserve.

[B0rg]

So almost 3 weeks passed and B0rg still haven't received any replay to any email or pm.. Now that's unacceptable..
Someone from AB says we're cheating and we are instantly banned, withouot any check if this accusation isn't a crap. At first I thought it might be temporary for admins to check the facts, but since so much time has passed..
Anyway writing here to admin, since he doesn't bother to replay to email or pm: B0rg want back their account! Haven't done anything wrong, unless sitting whole night by the computer is a crime..

That's just funny, as Pepl already said, the only way for AB to win this war was to eliminate the biggest players. And of course as from the start of the war they twist all the fact to blame us, first of starting the war, and now to make us cheaters..
If I was using any script than tell me how come, that I've been farmed by AB on regular basis every day a few hours while sleeping, and also a few times per day when I missed the turn change or simply couldn't get to the computer?
Even last night before we were banned Santo took a couple of bil of B0rg's naq - I remember how pissed off I was since I woke up and logged on just a minute afer his attack..
And than it was weekend and since I had to sit by my computer to fnish something I was hiding my naq all night and from time to time farming AB, which of course wasn't mention in Deity's post. So such behavior during the war deserves ban..

[Liquidfoxx]

Still wondering why they have access to their Ascended Accounts, bit unfair that they can still play that and affect us in main...

[Borek]

i have some problems with how this has been handled.

a: Why would someone make a banking script to bank up to 4 mins after the turn change? that's just stupid, you're bound to get farmed within 4 mins if in a serious war.

b: From what i read there was an incorrect ID number posted originally and THAT incorrect account got banned...umm, HELLO Adminmark, that is complete b/s and shows 100% that you neither checked sufficiently nor followed up your investigation into this being alliance-wide.

c: yes i do feel some sympathy for the PA having to defend themselves in English since it's not their main language, it is also completely unacceptible to ban someone then not reply to them for weeks, and when they do get a reply it is, to be frank, complete b/s.

Adminmark, do your god damn job you lazy sod, check the logs going back for a few months instead of just glancing at a few recent days, you are dealing with people accounts, they have spent months at least, probably years, building them up and deserve a full and thorough investigation. Being awake for a day or 2 during a big war is something people do, we can point out it's rather sad to spend so much time on the game, but we all know it happens and more so in times of war.

I'm not saying PA are innocent, but i AM saying this investigation appears to be a complete farce. For a start why did admin mark ban these guys real quick and then spend SO long without replying AFTER he's banned them, that is completely unacceptible, if you ban someone you need to do a FULL investigation which SHOULD take a while on an alliance and you should have the decency to be around to reply to people after bannings to make sure they have the chance to get an answer to the questions they will obviously want to ask about said bannings.

P.S
Just like to add for the benefit of the PA that my name is not infact Polish in origin, it was taken from a book, i'm English and don't actually know any of the guys in PA. I posted purely as i am deeply concerned that once again accusations of cheating are not being investigated properly and at face value it appears to me that if someone who knows AdminMark messages him he acts quickly to ban with little/no investigation. Considering how little Adminmark is around personally i see absolutely Zero reason to let him keep his role. It's not acceptible to me to have someone capable of banning people only log in once every 3 weeks, especially when it is 100% obvious he can't be arsed to investigate properly. Based on this thread and Adminmarks slack approach to his role i propose he is removed from his position. I would rather have no one banned than this shoddy half-arsed approach to what could well be 3 years of peoples effort in game.