How to solve the issues of mod and community??

[ThunderCat]

I had to laugh at the fact it's a FAHQ member whose massing provoked such hilarious outrage. I guess it's a-okay for that alliance to randomly mass another 'for fun', but when one of them gets massed for something they did on the forums it's suddenly the crime of the century. Haha. You people and your logic.

*hands out tissues*

....for fun...this is a GAME remember? not your life...youre supposed to PLAY the game and ENJOY it and have FUN ..gasp!

this massing had no purpose other than to be spiteful and rude, and i think it was because the one crying was nigatsu/(geisha) (you should see squishies posts on our forum LMAO) since someone actually rained on their hateparade and didnt sit on their hands....

*prepares to be massed because he had an opinion*

So if FUALL came onto the forum and said that they had randomly massed Squishy it would have been okay and nobody would be whining?

[Asami Ayano]

I believe a person who massed squishy was a member of FUALL, nigatsu aka

no comprendo que hablas.... I don't understand what you are saying...

[chucknorris101]

im not saying that there would be no whining, or hurt feelings, but there wouldnt be as much of an uproar, since this whole thing started because squishie was doing as felt best as the mod..its his job to act on discretion...

the wars weve that that are "fun" , most recently bwp, were with allainces we knew wouldnt take it to be a grudge match, and they did mass one of our members first...weve never had a war solely for the purpose of war...lol....we always have targets and annoyances that we take care of, sometimes later and sometimes preemptively...but i can tell you we havent had a "random" war like mordack infers that i can remember...

[ThunderCat]

I believe a person who massed squishy was a member of FUALL, nigatsu aka

I know that

im not saying that there would be no whining, or hurt feelings, but there wouldnt be as much of an uproar, since this whole thing started because squishie was doing as felt best as the mod..its his job to act on discretion...

the wars weve that that are "fun" , most recently bwp, were with allainces we knew wouldnt take it to be a grudge match, and they did mass one of our members first...weve never had a war solely for the purpose of war...lol....we always have targets and annoyances that we take care of, sometimes later and sometimes preemptively...but i can tell you we havent had a "random" war like mordack infers that i can remember...

From what I've heard, a few people said that they wanted the thread locked, and it was locked. If a majority of the players, or even a large minority wanted it locked then it would be a justified action. However, if 5 people say they want it locked and there are 172 people participating in the war then it's not a good idea to lock the thread. Then when people get ticked at the mod and whenever they protest their new thread gets locked, then there will be consequences for the mod. It is annoying that people insult each other and spam the thread and flame, but when 8 very powerful alliances go at it with each other you have to expect that they will spam, flame, and insult each other.

[Mystake]

i say you get over your butthurtz and keep playing. you suck, you got massed for it.

[Draleg]

i say you get over your butthurtz and keep playing. you suck, you got massed for it.

Its a bit blunt but , yep , thats the message , no use in crying over dead supers , mercs , coverts , ...

we have all lost somthing in this game we thoth was unfair, if its not UU then its naq or even ower temper its why we play the game , we know its going to happen so we deal with it , mass back or rebuld.

[Borek]

i say you get over your butthurtz and keep playing. you suck, you got massed for it.

Tend to agree with Mystake on this one.

Being a mod has NEVER made anyone immune to being hit/massed, the forums have ALWAYS got people in trouble in-game, quantum never stays on quantum.

But hey, at least you know why you got massed, that's better than being hit for something someone else did which you knew nothing about

[hidden]

i say you get over your butthurtz and keep playing. you suck, you got massed for it.

ya im on My side
oh sorry i mean Mystakes side

[repli**cator]

aay true what you say... but using massing as a way to influence moderator action is completely wrong.
it's the same as threatening, it's extortion.
of course it's all fun and games...but there is a line

fact is some posts above someone clearly stated... if you mess up as a moderator (wrong action, majority doesnt agree with your decision .... what is that???? how far can the comunity go into distrusting the moderators??)you get massed??
imo moderators only have responsablility to give to fellow moderators and the admin, noone else, i can't believe community asks for things like obudsman...the mod feedback..how can we question these people so much...i say anyone that does should do their job for a week and find out..
it's like wow i feel like a GOD, LORD i dunno ingame so i must act and BE the same on the forums...while forum is GOD and the moderators are the kings, not the community.

seems like ingame power is extrapolated (spelling?) to forum, other servers...

i have deep respect for the moderators still going on in these conditions. if i were told each and every day, "you suck, moderator team is bad (but not all of them ...)" wow lol i would have quit a lot sooner but kudos for you guys doing what you do.

[hidden]

aay true what you say... but using massing as a way to influence moderator action is completely wrong.
it's the same as threatening, it's extortion.
of course it's all fun and games...but there is a line

fact is some posts above someone clearly stated... if you mess up as a moderator (wrong action, majority doesnt agree with your decision .... what is that???? how far can the comunity go into distrusting the moderators??)you get massed??
imo moderators only have responsablility to give to fellow moderators and the admin, noone else, i can't believe community asks for things like obudsman...the mod feedback..how can we question these people so much...i say anyone that does should do their job for a week and find out..
it's like wow i feel like a GOD, LORD i dunno ingame so i must act and BE the same on the forums...while forum is GOD and the moderators are the kings, not the community.

seems like ingame power is extrapolated (spelling?) to forum, other servers...

i have deep respect for the moderators still going on in these conditions. if i were told each and every day, "you suck, moderator team is bad (but not all of them ...)" wow lol i would have quit a lot sooner but kudos for you guys doing what you do.

forum IS NOT GOD

forum is king and the mods are police

the way you talk is as if your saying the mods rule over us then you really misunderstand but anyway forum is a king because he has to cater to the community see its majority rules and if the majority leaves the game shuts down

which is why the community has power and besides it shouldn't be that the mods decisions are taken without question especially when they are wrong

saying to some of the biggest alliances in the game that they aren't allowed to have a war thread is SUICIDE and WRONG because the mod didn't want to do his job clean out the thread and warn the people who caused the trouble

i for one am thankful we live in an age where the moderators decisions can be questioned

[buck]

Take out the fact that squishie is not doing too good right now in the real world, and i have every sympathy for him, my door is open open squish pants...

...However As with all Jobs in the real world that involve holding a position of authority you will always , i mean always, end up pissing some people off, a section of society , or a group of like minded people.

Fact is you cannot please everyone, so dont bother trying

The vast majority of people squishie, do believe in what we as mods do and appreciate it, If for everytime a mod got massed, and i had a "dime" , i can tell you now i would have to wait for the next 50 years before i made a real dollar...Which is why when something like this happens the mods do act in a way which shows they are hurt, and rightly so, Because they dont deserve it.

But as the fact of the matter goes, If you choose to take up the reigns of a difficult position you have to deal with the consequences of what happens, that is a real shame, but that is also life and im afraid theres little to nothing that can be done, if you get massed for your job, then so be it, if you enjoy the job and enjoy seeing the majority of people happy from most of what you do, then carry on all the way to hell and back.

So, How to get on with it?

Je Ne Regrette Rien

Translation?

No, I regret Nothing.

Remember that phrase squishie, it will serve you well.

[hidden]

Take out the fact that squishie is not doing too good right now in the real world, and i have every sympathy for him, my door is open open squish pants...

...However As with all Jobs in the real world that involve holding a position of authority you will always , i mean always, end up pissing some people off, a section of society , or a group of like minded people.

Fact is you cannot please everyone, so dont bother trying

The vast majority of people squishie, do believe in what we as mods do and appreciate it, If for everytime a mod got massed, and i had a "dime" , i can tell you now i would have to wait for the next 50 years before i made a real dollar...Which is why when something like this happens the mods do act in a way which shows they are hurt, and rightly so, Because they dont deserve it.

But as the fact of the matter goes, If you choose to take up the reigns of a difficult position you have to deal with the consequences of what happens, that is a real shame, but that is also life and im afraid theres little to nothing that can be done, if you get massed for your job, then so be it, if you enjoy the job and enjoy seeing the majority of people happy from most of what you do, then carry on all the way to hell and back.

So, How to get on with it?

Je Ne Regrette Rien

Translation?

No, I regret Nothing.

Remember that phrase squishie, it will serve you well.

well im pretty sure the majority didn't agree this time

i thought you'd be angry when he said your not allowed to have a war thread buck

anyway what do you mean by not doing to good?

[buck]

Take out the fact that squishie is not doing too good right now in the real world, and i have every sympathy for him, my door is open open squish pants...

...However As with all Jobs in the real world that involve holding a position of authority you will always , i mean always, end up pissing some people off, a section of society , or a group of like minded people.

Fact is you cannot please everyone, so dont bother trying

The vast majority of people squishie, do believe in what we as mods do and appreciate it, If for everytime a mod got massed, and i had a "dime" , i can tell you now i would have to wait for the next 50 years before i made a real dollar...Which is why when something like this happens the mods do act in a way which shows they are hurt, and rightly so, Because they dont deserve it.

But as the fact of the matter goes, If you choose to take up the reigns of a difficult position you have to deal with the consequences of what happens, that is a real shame, but that is also life and im afraid theres little to nothing that can be done, if you get massed for your job, then so be it, if you enjoy the job and enjoy seeing the majority of people happy from most of what you do, then carry on all the way to hell and back.

So, How to get on with it?

Je Ne Regrette Rien

Translation?

No, I regret Nothing.

Remember that phrase squishie, it will serve you well.

well im pretty sure the majority didn't agree this time

i thought you'd be angry when he said your not allowed to have a war thread buck

anyway what do you mean by not doing to good?

The Majority dont have to agree for it to happen...You just have to remember that the majority appreciate what you do.

No i wasnt angry when he closed the war thread, i thought it was an excellent idea, the 102 page one was getting out of hand, Should have probally spoken to some of us about it first but, no regrets.

Squishie is stressed out right now, thats what i mean by not doing too good, theres a thread on the mod forums which dates back to before this happened, and thats as far as im going into that.

[Juliette]

As far as Squishie is concerned, I believe it was mentioned elsewhere.
Hope you'll get out soon, mate. This kind of thing isn't your average cold.

To answer the question asked in the title; "Align your perspectives."
It's basically a matter of perspective; too many people take the game too seriously, and cannot deal with jests dealt on the boards. Of course.. such jests can be actual insults, but most of the more strongly taken insults are due to the insulters unawareness of the insultees RL situation.
As a player, you should realise you're playing a game, for fun.
As a mod, you should realise you're aiding in guaranteeing the fun for the players. Your own comfort is, so to speak, inferior to that goal.
As a player-mod, you should realise you're just as much a target as any other player. Even more so, as you are in a position of fame. Just as a president has a higher risk of assassination than Jane from the Grocer's around the corner. Still, that also happens to be part of the game.. and yes, it might reduce your comfort. If you know you're doing a good job, there's no need at all to fret. Your massing is part of the game. You'd be better off laughing about it, and attacking your attackers.

Also I do believe it might be better to stand down from emotionally involved positions (it's an imperfect universe) when you're particularly vulnerable to emotional distress due to RL circumstances. Pregnant women get two months off work (at least) when they're due.. I'm sure a similar arrangement could be made for mods.

Neither the "but it is only roleplaying", or the "game and forum are seperate" arguments apply here.

[hidden]

Take out the fact that squishie is not doing too good right now in the real world, and i have every sympathy for him, my door is open open squish pants...

...However As with all Jobs in the real world that involve holding a position of authority you will always , i mean always, end up pissing some people off, a section of society , or a group of like minded people.

Fact is you cannot please everyone, so dont bother trying

The vast majority of people squishie, do believe in what we as mods do and appreciate it, If for everytime a mod got massed, and i had a "dime" , i can tell you now i would have to wait for the next 50 years before i made a real dollar...Which is why when something like this happens the mods do act in a way which shows they are hurt, and rightly so, Because they dont deserve it.

But as the fact of the matter goes, If you choose to take up the reigns of a difficult position you have to deal with the consequences of what happens, that is a real shame, but that is also life and im afraid theres little to nothing that can be done, if you get massed for your job, then so be it, if you enjoy the job and enjoy seeing the majority of people happy from most of what you do, then carry on all the way to hell and back.

So, How to get on with it?

Je Ne Regrette Rien

Translation?

No, I regret Nothing.

Remember that phrase squishie, it will serve you well.

well im pretty sure the majority didn't agree this time

i thought you'd be angry when he said your not allowed to have a war thread buck

anyway what do you mean by not doing to good?

The Majority dont have to agree for it to happen...You just have to remember that the majority appreciate what you do.

No i wasnt angry when he closed the war thread, i thought it was an excellent idea, the 102 page one was getting out of hand, Should have probally spoken to some of us about it first but, no regrets.

Squishie is stressed out right now, thats what i mean by not doing too good, theres a thread on the mod forums which dates back to before this happened, and thats as far as im going into that.

ooo i like secrets. no wait i hate secrets. well actually thats not true what i really hate is knowing there is a secret but not knowing there is a secret at all

why did you have to tell me theres a secret@!!!

you know what really grinds my gears? mods taking the easy way out and making others suffer because of it

what i mean is yes that thread was way out of hand but that thread is extremely important all of them are(i bet there would be a lot more vultures if no one knew there was a war going on)

the problems in that thread should have been addressed earlier

and now its time for todays what if scenario

what if i was a mod? well if i was a mod modding that thread i know what i would've done. i would have caught the problems nice and early before they got out of hand. then what i'd do is talk to those people thats right those people involved. i'd tell to stop i'd warn them to stop i'd get rid of their posts. but what i wouldn't do is lock the whole thread because of some bad apples