Who says their superior?

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Who says their superior?

Funny message when I go to attack someone directly.

It is frowned upon in the cafe of eternity to squash those so far beneath you...
It is also frowned upon to engage in a battle with those clearly superior to you- suicide holds no honor where eyes are always open.
You rethink your actions of attacking those so clearly out of your power levels, since it will only bring scorn from the ranks of the ascended.


Has anyone else got this? What are the limits to decide wither this person is superior to me?
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Re: Who says their superior?

its your rank difference...

just sell your strike weapons before the turn then repurchase them after... bobs your uncle your rank drops and you can hit them.

when rank mods are removed that will be a day when the heaven sings. there aren't rank mods in main so lets drop em in ascended.

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Re: Who says their superior?

TheRook wrote:its your rank difference...

just sell your strike weapons before the turn then repurchase them after... bobs your uncle your rank drops and you can hit them.

when rank mods are removed that will be a day when the heaven sings. there aren't rank mods in main so lets drop em in ascended.

TheRook



The sad part is its so simple to get around them,,, it really is an insult to peoples intellegence and make someone look bad :roll:
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Re: Who says their superior?

whats the formula or whatever for working out whether you can attacksomeone or not?
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Re: Who says their superior?

Ahh, he must have been below me (He's now descended). He was way ahead of me and I thought it was saying he was too superior for me to hit him.
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Sitel wrote:Ahh, he must have been below me (He's now descended). He was way ahead of me and I thought it was saying he was too superior for me to hit him.


Actually, it may have been saying that. When I sell dmu it is a common mistake I make. I want to sell the dmu but I am too far ahead and it won't let them attack me. I have to drop my rank, or have them raise theirs, to attack me.
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I've seen it happen recently also... I can understand not hitting someone too far below you-but it should allow you to hit above you. I'm at war now-and I had been massed overnight-so when I logged on in the morning I couldn't attack people because I had dropped too far in rank... I had to wait for the turn reset to hit them...

I think admin should change this... it shouldnt be very complicated. maybe a line or two of code at the most. though I can't say for sure as admin hasn't published the code :(
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Again, my suggestion of removing rank mods and damage caps would solve this problem. You wouldn't get those messages then. Everyone would be able to attack anyone else, mano y mano. No crippling of strikes or artificially inflating someone's assassin power so that, with less assassins, they can destroy your military.
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removing rank mods would help some... but I appreciate the way it makes it more strategic for all us normal players... again we're stuck with trying to make rules to catch those who abuse the way the game works. but yes-removing rank mods is a viable option, and a fairly easy one also.

im still trying to think of an option that doesnt eliminate that element-but that could keep sniper accounts from being able to function like they currently do...
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cyberblade wrote:removing rank mods would help some... but I appreciate the way it makes it more strategic for all us normal players... again we're stuck with trying to make rules to catch those who abuse the way the game works. but yes-removing rank mods is a viable option, and a fairly easy one also.

im still trying to think of an option that doesnt eliminate that element-but that could keep sniper accounts from being able to function like they currently do...



How does it do this?

all you got to do is sell out, turn change, buy back, and bam,,,, everyone in the game has a 130% rank mod? What strategy is that?
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Lore wrote:
cyberblade wrote:removing rank mods would help some... but I appreciate the way it makes it more strategic for all us normal players... again we're stuck with trying to make rules to catch those who abuse the way the game works. but yes-removing rank mods is a viable option, and a fairly easy one also.

im still trying to think of an option that doesnt eliminate that element-but that could keep sniper accounts from being able to function like they currently do...



How does it do this?

all you got to do is sell out, turn change, buy back, and bam,,,, everyone in the game has a 130% rank mod? What strategy is that?


There is no strategy involved just everyone using the rank mod to get them the largest gain. The mod was annoying enough before you could change it by selling off a few defense weapons and then easily buying them back when the turn changes because the weapons are so cheap compared to income. If admin wants to have a rank mod it should be +- so many from your rank, say if you go 300 above or below your rank you get a penalty. That can atleast be logical and not just some silly random reason. Best would be to drop the rank mods and let force meet force.
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Lore wrote:
cyberblade wrote:removing rank mods would help some... but I appreciate the way it makes it more strategic for all us normal players... again we're stuck with trying to make rules to catch those who abuse the way the game works. but yes-removing rank mods is a viable option, and a fairly easy one also.

im still trying to think of an option that doesnt eliminate that element-but that could keep sniper accounts from being able to function like they currently do...



How does it do this?

all you got to do is sell out, turn change, buy back, and bam,,,, everyone in the game has a 130% rank mod? What strategy is that?


Yes-you can do that. but I'm not referring to that... as you notice-I said normal players... maybe that was incorrect-maybe its not the norm. I'm the type of player who doesn't try to fool the rank mod. maybe I'm the odd one here-if thats the case I apologize for my misleading statement. what i'm referring to is the fact that for those, like myself, who do not try to use the rank mod to our advantage-it makes it more strategic-in the sense that you have to be more careful-as you can't bully smaller players with brute force-unless you're clearly superior... a 60% mod on your hits drops my strike from 2 quad to 1.2 quad-thats quite a difference. making this game (imho) more strategic than main where your strike would be the same no matter what rank you were hitting. Of course (as I mentioned before) this only applies to those of us who follow the spirit of the rule, or, maybe better said, how I view the spirit of the rule... as I have now way of knowing what admin's true intent was-so I make no claim to that.

Back on topic-I like the way rank mods protect the smaller, I think thats important in this game-the big will still be big. I don't make any claims to being big (my CER is 97 mil-not sure exactly where that puts me). But I do know I'm not too small. But I remember what it was to be small. No one should be given a free pass-they need to earn it. But the rank mods do help the little guy-and I'm for that. That said-they are constantly abused-and that needs to be fixed. I'm for removing rank mods and saying that you can't have any stat ranked more than 300 places different from any other... of course I went into that in my other post... but removing rank mods for now would help-the other is just something that needs to be done (by other i dont mean the game suggestion-thats just my opinion, but the recoding to make stats, etc be real time) if this game is going to last long term... (imho)
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