Scammer and multi - Ladiesman 217

[papa~smurf]

My suggestion would be for LM217 to pay Tintsel for Peace (uu, naq). In return, the charges would be dropped.

Of course, my opinion weighs nothing in this thread, consider it constructive criticism.

Thank you for your time.

Decipher

Why should he get off with just paying me some UU or naq? He has broken the rules and deserves to be banned.

@your other post - Read my reply to cyberblade.

-Multi: anyone who controls more than 1 account on the same server.
(When buying an account you should send all your resources before you log in to the new account. After this you are no longer allowed to log in to your previous account.) See rules for details.

I just edited my post in regards to the RULING of SGW.

I understand he has broken the rules, but who hasn't in life? I believe that no matter what happens, everyone deserves a second chance. Now in this instance, LM217's account should be damaged (lose of income or up) or suspended for an extended period of time. To ban this particular user would neglect his deed to return the account (even though he scammed, you still need to consider this).

Anyways, like I said, I do not currently hold any position of authority. The decision should be made by the ADMIN.

Decipher

1) even thou giving some one a second chance is all good, u are forgetting the victims (tin and majorlee) rights. LM used the account not only in an etempt to better himself, but to better his position in a war. we are expected to believe, after using the account to steal an enemies property, and then being faced with 2 oppenets of great power, he decided that this new account was not to his liking.

2) since some of u seem to know him and his family in real life, could some one verify if LM has a brother who plays SGW. I ask this not to bring harm to his brother account, but only for the reason of, in convo given to me by Odin (wich to my satisfaction clears the collective of any knowledge of any of this) he speaks of his brother attacking FS along with a "friend" and we would be none the wiser. It would seem logical if someone had no trouble with keeping 2 accounts active at once, why not 3 or 4.

3) did u not say some where in this the ad for the account was for your current account ? So wich is it, your current account, the account in question, some other account ?

[Clarkey]

LMAO I've had over 4 pages of this to read and there's so many things that I could pick on and throw back at you LM217. Either you did scam Tin and now trying to convince people that you didn't you are making lots of easy mistakes, or you are getting way too stressed (too stressed for a damn game) that you are making mistakes. Basically you are contradicting yourself in some posts. here is what i mean......

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWarsNew/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=105196&p=1245369#p1245369


this is thread where he was trying to sell the account that he had gotten from tin, so he had position of the account, while holding position of this other account. weather he was using both at once, or switching back and forth, it is still multing in every sense of the word. The fact that he had the account, posted for the sale of it, used it, put it into perg, and then returned it, well thats just bad form.

In the quote above Halamander shopws everyone a thread where you are apparently selling Tins account.

Halamander, the thread u are refering to is my current account, My ORIGINAL Account. i did not put tin's account for sale. but anyways, even if i did.. that does not help anyone prove that i am a scammer. so tehre is no point in posting that up.

In the quote above LM217 you are saying that the account in that thread for sale is not Tins account but is your old account that you had planned to sell.

And why did you post a topic saying you were selling an incranate daimon with a high up (my account) if you were planning on giving it back?

The quote above shows Tin recognises that this is his account being sold in the thread.

firstly i put that selling account post there so that i can easily find the price of the account that i am buying and depanding on what types of offers i get there i would pay u. that was the main reason, THAT IS WHY I HAD CLOSED THAT TOPIC just after i got few basic idea of what the account is worth.

In the quote above you are now saying that the account mentioned in that thread is in fact Tins account and not your old account that you had planned to sell. I don't care whether you had posted this account on there just to find it's worth, the fact is that you told everyone on here that account was your old account and now you are saying it was Tins account.

Hmmm me wonders what would have happened if someone had offered you a large amount of resources for Tins account before you changed your mind..... hmmm one wonders.

it says that i said that i "felt bad about it" would a scammer say that..???..

Yes because that's what scammers do.... lie to try and convince people they are legit.

and yes this is the obviously proves that his screen shots were either edited or photoshoped.

Firstly edited and photoshoped is the same thing, you would use photshop to edit the image! duh!
Secondly, you are wrong in that this is proof that Tins screenshots were edited. All this proves is that the image COULD have been edited. It doesn't prove that it WAS edited.

Well that's enough for me to say for now.

[Tintsel]

Thank you for the effort Clarkey, much appreciated. We all know now that LadiesMan is in fact guilty and is only a matter of time before he gets whats coming to him.

[Korruption]

first thing, Ladiesman217 do you like piercings and do you have any genital piercings ?? a bit personal but proving a point here please answer.

second thing i have checked out yours and Tintsel's accounts and that selling thread is for tintsel's account.

thirdly what clarky just said

LMAO I've had over 4 pages of this to read and there's so many things that I could pick on and throw back at you LM217. Either you did scam Tin and now trying to convince people that you didn't you are making lots of easy mistakes, or you are getting way too stressed (too stressed for a damn game) that you are making mistakes. Basically you are contradicting yourself in some posts. here is what i mean......

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWarsNew/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=105196&p=1245369#p1245369


this is thread where he was trying to sell the account that he had gotten from tin, so he had position of the account, while holding position of this other account. weather he was using both at once, or switching back and forth, it is still multing in every sense of the word. The fact that he had the account, posted for the sale of it, used it, put it into perg, and then returned it, well thats just bad form.

In the quote above Halamander shopws everyone a thread where you are apparently selling Tins account.

Halamander, the thread u are refering to is my current account, My ORIGINAL Account. i did not put tin's account for sale. but anyways, even if i did.. that does not help anyone prove that i am a scammer. so tehre is no point in posting that up.

In the quote above LM217 you are saying that the account in that thread for sale is not Tins account but is your old account that you had planned to sell.

And why did you post a topic saying you were selling an incranate daimon with a high up (my account) if you were planning on giving it back?

The quote above shows Tin recognises that this is his account being sold in the thread.

firstly i put that selling account post there so that i can easily find the price of the account that i am buying and depanding on what types of offers i get there i would pay u. that was the main reason, THAT IS WHY I HAD CLOSED THAT TOPIC just after i got few basic idea of what the account is worth.

In the quote above you are now saying that the account mentioned in that thread is in fact Tins account and not your old account that you had planned to sell. I don't care whether you had posted this account on there just to find it's worth, the fact is that you told everyone on here that account was your old account and now you are saying it was Tins account.

Hmmm me wonders what would have happened if someone had offered you a large amount of resources for Tins account before you changed your mind..... hmmm one wonders.

it says that i said that i "felt bad about it" would a scammer say that..???..

Yes because that's what scammers do.... lie to try and convince people they are legit.

and yes this is the obviously proves that his screen shots were either edited or photoshoped.

Firstly edited and photoshoped is the same thing, you would use photshop to edit the image! duh!
Secondly, you are wrong in that this is proof that Tins screenshots were edited. All this proves is that the image COULD have been edited. It doesn't prove that it WAS edited.

Well that's enough for me to say for now.

basically sums up what i was going to bring up.

i believe the people that have read this thread know and i believe ladiesman217 know he is in the wrong as well as he has broken the rules as quoted by tintsel in a past post

[quickshot84]

sigh, ur not getting the meaning of breaking rules or scamming or multing.

firstly i put that selling account post there so that i can easily find the price of the account that i am buying and depanding on what types of offers i get there i would pay u. that was the main reason, THAT IS WHY I HAD CLOSED THAT TOPIC just after i got few basic idea of what the account is worth.

i say this again tin, i have not broken any rules. gave u ur account back it its state. nothing wrong with it. u cant say i broke the rules just becuase u though that i was going to... it doesnt show anything, it just tells us taht u can think ahead.



and yes this is the obviously proves that his screen shots were either edited or photoshoped.

the page is scroll up, so thus it is showing the tops of some words, but not all of it.

def has not been edited

[cyberblade]

ok, as far as images-can we get some of the image pro's to vouch for those? Some people that both parties can agree to as neutral and fair?

Also-if we're going be strict rules here both Tintsel and ladiesman 217 COULD be banned for breaking rules. Thats the truth of it.

Tintsel-you shared your login with another player who used your account for you and then gave it back to you.

Ladiesman 217-you used someone else's account and then went back to your own.

Now, can we please get a mod, or more than one perhaps to help us out here? More bickering is not going to help. I don't see you both being banned-you both should probably be punished, though perhaps with different severity. In any case thats for admin to decide.

Secondly-Mods, please, come and clean this mess up... this is worse then the spam temple...

m2cw
~Cyber

[MajorLeeHurts]

Audryanna AKA MajorLeeHurts says (12:39 AM):
ran to perg sold your multi ?

Evil123456789 says (12:39 AM):
lol ya

Audryanna AKA MajorLeeHurts says (12:39 AM):
worst kinda player there is

Evil123456789 says (12:39 AM):
sold it before it got destroyed

Evil123456789 says (12:39 AM):
lol thats being worst

killtacular says (12:39 AM):
I told you guys what I tell ya

Audryanna AKA MajorLeeHurts says (12:39 AM):
yup

Evil123456789 says (12:39 AM):
if i had stayed and fough i would be dead and it would be worth **Filtered**



Oh and there is so much more.

You have been caught with your hand in the cookie jar young man.

Time to face it , Admin has all the info they need to make a decision on this. Stop trying to back peddle and talk your way out of it.

[Tintsel]

ok, as far as images-can we get some of the image pro's to vouch for those? Some people that both parties can agree to as neutral and fair?

Also-if we're going be strict rules here both Tintsel and ladiesman 217 COULD be banned for breaking rules. Thats the truth of it.

Tintsel-you shared your login with another player who used your account for you and then gave it back to you.



~Cyber

I'm happy for anyone to look at the images. They are not fake.

And, I, in no way can be banned. It is against the rules to give out my details if I plan on logging back in, but at the time, I THOUGHT I was selling my account. Little did I know, I was being scammed and the n00b didn't have the balls to go through with it.

There is no way in which I can be banned, even by a technecality, as it would all come back to the fact that I didn't plan on logging back into my account.

So please cyberblade, stay out of it. You are just trying to cause trouble and it is unnecessary.

He is in the wrong, and everyone here agrees. DON'T, I repeat, DON'T cause any more touble than there already is.

[cyberblade]

ok, as far as images-can we get some of the image pro's to vouch for those? Some people that both parties can agree to as neutral and fair?

Also-if we're going be strict rules here both Tintsel and ladiesman 217 COULD be banned for breaking rules. Thats the truth of it.

Tintsel-you shared your login with another player who used your account for you and then gave it back to you.



~Cyber

I'm happy for anyone to look at the images. They are not fake.

And, I, in no way can be banned. It is against the rules to give out my details if I plan on logging back in, but at the time, I THOUGHT I was selling my account. Little did I know, I was being scammed and the n00b didn't have the balls to go through with it.

There is no way in which I can be banned, even by a technecality, as it would all come back to the fact that I didn't plan on logging back into my account.

So please cyberblade, stay out of it. You are just trying to cause trouble and it is unnecessary.

He is in the wrong, and everyone here agrees. DON'T, I repeat, DON'T cause any more touble than there already is.

So, you can read minds? because you claim to know what I'm trying to do... Will you walk on water next? See my point here? You have no way of knowing what I'm trying to do, any more than we know what your intent was in sharing your log in information. I'm not trying to cause trouble-and I believe you when you say that you weren't planning on logging into your account again. But don't claim to know what I'm thinking. And what I said above still is true, technically you both broke the rules. And actually, you COULD be banned, if admin decided. In this game admin is god, and he gets to do whatever he wants. I doubt you'll be banned-I don't think you deserve it. But I was just pointing out that there was no innocent party.

[MEZZANINE]

Cyber, I dont even understand why your defending this guy, hes not in your alliance and he has already admitted twice in this thread that he intended to abandon TC, leave the war and sneak off with his new account, on top of that ~Odin~ his former alliance leader has ditched him and said he wont tolerate cheats in his crew, so why do you care ?

There is more than enough evidence for a ban so lets all sit back, chill out and wait for Admin to do there thing

[Slurm69]

Mezz- Cyber isnt defending anyone here really, hes just simplifying the squabble into lamens terms. Just making it easier on people and the admins to see whats going on, and suggesting that the proper channels to settle this argument are necessary.

[cyberblade]

Cyber, I dont even understand why your defending this guy, hes not in your alliance and he has already admitted twice in this thread that he intended to abandon TC, leave the war and sneak off with his new account, on top of that ~Odin~ his former alliance leader has ditched him and said he wont tolerate cheats in his crew, so why do you care ?

There is more than enough evidence for a ban so lets all sit back, chill out and wait for Admin to do there thing

Don't worry mezz, I'm not defending him... I wouldnt take sides even if he was in my alliance. this is a situation for admin to decide, I just like to keep things factual. I'm not defending either party actually. lm 217 seems to be an immature cheat, and tintsel seems to be just immature, and a bit naive.

I'm sure admin will take appropriate action with lm217, but tbh i don't feel sorry for tintsel. he let himself get sucked in, then goes about with all this mudslinging on the forums... meh. i guess to me its just a game, that could be the difference...

On another note-any idea when we can get a resolution from admin?

[LadiesMan 217]

alright, so in one of cyberblade's msg he described what users do to change account and how they buy the second account using the resources from to first one and then put the first one on ppt. so is that not using 2 accounts at the same time??

from TIN's defination of a multi, what cyber said would also be considered a multi rite?

and another thing, to the ppl talking about major's planet, it was taken while my intentions were of keeping this account to all those that are falsly accusing me YOU ARE NOT THE ONE TO DECIDE IN THE END. the admin is. and to the admin, i will deny Tin's side of the story, as this was originally a trade and i had never felt bad about scamming or anything.

so im not a scammer, i am a multi now from tin's perspective?
he was not able to prove me as a scammer so now he moves on and starts calling me a cheat. when will he stop trying i wonder.

to those FS members concerning about Major's planet. Take the planet dam it, it has 0 def from when i left it and nothing on that planet is gone.

and to TIN and his false proof, i have nothing to say because ive already said i did not say things in those convo, admin cant use convos as proof that U submitted to fight against some that U hate.

i would like to also remind the idiots that are accusing me, that i will be quiting sgw soon as my friend takes my account. since ive said that in the starting posts that i made. and there are other idiots posting things about that "selling a incarnt daimon account", i told u what this thread was for and there must be another sell thread for my original account if u idiots didnt look properly shows what threads i was referring to.

yes say i agree with the idiots who say that that thread was meant for me to sell tin's account but DID I SELL IT? no. so that removes me from scamming

i remind u that the punishment for scamming is not IP ban, its just repay the cost so TIN, even if u try ur hardest u wont get me IP banned just for scamming ur stupid little mind (that is if i had done it). and u still are not able to prove that i multied. since i did not go on ur account after the time i changed my mind, only the admin can tell u this becuase he might had the logs from that account on that specific time period.

i wont care, about sgw i jsut wnated to clear my name UP. but then again its just a game.

ill also tell u guys that ill be less frequent with the fourms since i wont be playing sgw from this point on. but i do wish to know what the admin says to this situation.

so now, y dont we all wait and see what the admin does and says. till then bye.

[Clarkey]

i would like to also remind the idiots that are accusing me, that i will be quiting sgw soon as my friend takes my account.

ill also tell u guys that ill be less frequent with the fourms since i wont be playing sgw from this point on. but i do wish to know what the admin says to this situation.

Good riddence.

[cyberblade]

@lm217
I'm sure admin will dispense justice.
I also, once again suggest that a calm, logical post will do much more for you than your current style.