Racist....so be it?????

[Juliette]

one more thing, isnt these kind of racial threads "bad" for the fourm and shouldn't the be deleted??

'tis a rule on some forums, indeed. As for deletion.. why? Can't your convictions stand the influence of one man's thoughts? A truly convinced and intelligent man does not fear his opponents words, nor does he allow his friends to shake in their boots at the boisterous words of Goliath.

@ the retard who started this.. y dont u keep ur opinions to ur self, are SGW players ur ONLY friends in real life..? is that y u are posting ur unreasonable thoughts on sgw? from the looks of it... u got none or very little real friends or a RL..

It is an ethical point of debate whether or not opinions are subject to censure as well.. basically, opinions are no opinions unless they are shared with people who disagree. If they are not made public in any way, they are convictions, not opinions. If they are made public in a group of people who agree, it is doctrine.
Unreasonable thoughts or not, they can be voiced on any public stage. If Zerathull is under the false impression that SGW is as much a public stage as any other forum, he has every reason to share his opinion through that channel.

Basically, I guess, you are concluding things that lack ANY basis in reality. I believe racism does the same, only adding the sin of generalisation to their list of crimes? Your words are, essentially, nothing more than single-subject-racism. It is, so to speak.. hypocritical.
Ah yes.. as hypocritical as I am, myself.

Mr. Ladiesman.. no matter how hated Zerathull has become for voicing his opinions (of course blown out of proportion, as is customary), there is no ground in your incessantly illogical overreacting.

Seriously.. the threads that cropped up lately have been naught but wrought out of the purest negativity. I do have to say, I admire the ability some people display over and over again to turn complete ignorance into the leading motive of posts. Did I say admire? I meant something less favourable.
Whatever..

Zerathull.. so many people around here have once in their avatar's existence acted against karma.. it always balances out in the endgame. I trust you are otherwise well. And remember, speaking is silver, silence is gold. I have had lots of gold.. silver will do for just this once again.

(To the unattentive reader; do not bother replying if sarcasm, metaphors, hyperbolae and logic are not your cup of tea. Do not feel.. excluded.. there are plenty of posts around that you can understand.)

[Darkalbino_]

If i discriminate equally, does that still make me racist?

[Juliette]

Amusing how Zera's remarks were never racist (simply for lack of dealing with a race, but a people), but ever so ethnically biased.
That kind of perceptions is actually subject of much studying in anthropological circles.. no stuff to be tossed around by children.

Back to the drawing board.

[Legendary Apophis]

I was his friend, I joined the wagon.
Do you think if it was that unworrying I would have did it?
When he said things to TLE and got banned I didnt join the wagon zera is a noob!
So it's more important than you think my friend.
And I don't see why you minimize things, such things untolerated here period no light or semi or anything coments that style period!
Otherwise we will see this place be crappy and noway it happens!
That's how it starts.

[Mystake]

I hate purple People.

I hope the one eye one horn flying purple people eater gets them all.

MANBEARPIG!!!

GUYS IM SERIAL!!!

[Curumo]

Auriel, my dear, you're wasting your intelligent and well-worded post here. Most people on this forum have a tendency to overlook or ignore smart posts. Those who do understand them usually don't even reply to them anymore. Why?
Because they realize that most people here don't care about smart debate. All they are after is a piece of meat that they can hack, slash, cook, kill ... Well you get my point. Hence every topic gets off topic, blown out of proportions, has retributions cause of it, etc.
This is in no way a debate. This is just an excuse to rant. As almost every other post on this forum. And people ... you are doing a G R E A T job at it.

With the exception of Severian and Mystake ... who watch too much South Park

[Legendary Apophis]

I agree going all mad all the time is bad, but such thing can't be considered as ok, not so bad, opinion stating etc...
When you say it's ok, think if someone insulted your own country or your gender, ethny etc...Would u react the same or like most of use did there? Ask yourself this, and then comeback to say what you would do
Thats best way to see things

[Curumo]

Jim you know me and i think any other reply on this topic is pointless from me as i don't agree with it. And people don't care. So i'll stop here. Further debate IS possible on msn though.

[nobodyhere]

I prefer to just hate everyone so no one feels left out

i beleive you are referring to this quote?

“I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally.” - WC Fields

[agapooka]

When I read this thread, I see discrimination against people accused of discrimination. Sweet irony. That word is tossed around too much. Everyone whines about how bad it is while they do it themselves. As Auriel ponted out, this wasn't racism, but another type of bias. Essentially, what we see here is people getting upset about what they hate about themselves when they see it in others.

Let's face it, everyone is biased. Some biases are more extreme than others, but only in their degree. Hatred and extreme hatred are both disgusting things, and it would be hypocritical for one to hate extreme hatred when he himself hates. This place was never about policing people's thoughts and it shouldn't be now. That said, it is a mod's job to censor inappropriate remarks, but we oughtn't force our ways of thinking upon others, no matter how wrong we believe them to be. I believe that racism is wrong, but apart from general consensus, who am I to say that it is?

Should I start to call out TLE for calling themselves Romans? Romans, after all, were into slavery! Romans were racist and cruel! Romans called every non-Roman a barbarian (apparently an allusion to the fact that foreign languages sounded like sheep... bah-bah-rians). But that was a long time ago, it's ok, they can be glorified today. Where do we draw the line?

Agapooka

[Brdavs]

Well in that case the best you can do is make sure the line does (not) get evenly drawn.
I expect you to leap to the defense of the next Al-Qaeda alliance that gets torn apart. Afteral there`s not even a general consensus BL`s a bad guy or a terrorist, heck many see him as a freedom fighter. Points of view. Who is any1 here to say he is not in that case?
But I suspect that, as in RL, some things will slide while others most certainly will not\never had. Sweet irony indeed eh.


Personally I think some are taking things a bit far as far as not forgiving ever goes... provided he learned such train of thought is wrong (be it rasist or ethnic bias or whatever you choose to clasify it) ppl could maybe let bygones be bygones.
But waving it away as in you "whine to much" and "we all think it" is fundamentally wrong. There`s a debate about word filters going on because of the "impressional youth" lurking around.
So I cant say "Zesh is a **Filtered**" but in the next thread youre passing up (certain) prejudice with "meh"... Is this a joke? How absurdly and hypocritically prune can you ppl get??? This is prolly only capped off by being insanely cathoclic while at the same time crazy pro the whole gun culture and waving the nations colors everytime a scorched terrorist pops up or gets waterboarded. (read: republican )

I allway laugh my ass of to things like this. For instance I go by the name "Private FirstClass F*ckup" in certain FPS games... and ppl get offended. Hello, were trading headshots and blood is spewing everywhere... and you take offense not at that but instead at a clearly satyrical name? Its a family server? Were killing eachother and my nick is the issue for your family? You`re one sad induvidual.


Edit: Oh, and Just hide behind TLEs roleplay, its much easier than to tackle the real issue in its rotten core.
(bit of paraphrasing of an old favorite some of you may remember )

I hate purple People.

I hope the one eye one horn flying purple people eater gets them all.

What did we ever do to you?

[Avitir]

When I read this thread, I see discrimination against people accused of discrimination. Sweet irony. That word is tossed around too much. Everyone whines about how bad it is while they do it themselves. As Auriel ponted out, this wasn't racism, but another type of bias. Essentially, what we see here is people getting upset about what they hate about themselves when they see it in others.

Let's face it, everyone is biased. Some biases are more extreme than others, but only in their degree. Hatred and extreme hatred are both disgusting things, and it would be hypocritical for one to hate extreme hatred when he himself hates. This place was never about policing people's thoughts and it shouldn't be now. That said, it is a mod's job to censor inappropriate remarks, but we oughtn't force our ways of thinking upon others, no matter how wrong we believe them to be. I believe that racism is wrong, but apart from general consensus, who am I to say that it is?

Should I start to call out TLE for calling themselves Romans? Romans, after all, were into slavery! Romans were racist and cruel! Romans called every non-Roman a barbarian (apparently an allusion to the fact that foreign languages sounded like sheep... bah-bah-rians). But that was a long time ago, it's ok, they can be glorified today. Where do we draw the line?

Agapooka

He made a very stupid, poorly thought out and uncool statement that is the bottom line. I don't think that anyone is trying to change anyones mind or statement- what is done is done, and it may have been a 'poor' joke gone wrong or a statement not meant to offend but did, the issue here is that this is not the place to make such remarks- period.

A good rule of thumb is to usually keep away from Politics, Sex and Race/Religion in general conversation unless you 100% know people will not be offended or are in a forum that allows such ideas to be raised. If you keep away from these points you usually keep away from really offensive remarks.

[Legendary Apophis]

Jim you know me and i think any other reply on this topic is pointless from me as i don't agree with it. And people don't care. So i'll stop here. Further debate IS possible on msn though.

Oh then I'm looking for it

[ThakalluS]

lol firstly tell me ur race and ur country so i can tell some stupid raciest things about it cause im sure wherever ur from there has been some raicest thing made about u..

Try to say that and I'm telling you that your account will be being destroyed as long as I play this game.

and this is the best thing...you said that what zera wrote is really wrong and NOW YOU'RE ASKING HIM WHERE IS HE FROM to INSULT HIS WHOLE NATION AND RACE ?

so you are aswell offending whole slovak nation and therefore me ASWELL

WTH ... and you're telling me that is not racism,eh ?
it is,because you're judging whole country based on one invididual eh?

try that and you will see the outcome...

[Apadamek]

lol firstly tell me ur race and ur country so i can tell some stupid raciest things about it cause im sure wherever ur from there has been some raicest thing made about u..

Try to say that and I'm telling you that your account will be being destroyed as long as I play this game.

and this is the best thing...you said that what zera wrote is really wrong and NOW YOU'RE ASKING HIM WHERE IS HE FROM to INSULT HIS WHOLE NATION AND RACE ?

so you are aswell offending whole slovak nation and therefore me ASWELL

WTH ... and you're telling me that is not racism,eh ?
it is,because you're judging whole country based on one invididual eh?

try that and you will see the outcome...

Thats not racism. Thats not even close. Stop throwing the word around if you don't know what it means, and don't give me "modern interpretation!"