Public apology to all pakistans and anyone who felt insulted

[Legendary Apophis]

i have a strange question...

whats different from what zera said, and what is said all the time about the French being cowards and losers? how come the people that say that aren't racist?

Double standarts?
I'm in favour that ANY person saying ANY racist joke to ANY country gets massed and descended (other good reason than educating to do a massing for sth else than constant farming or raiding on yor alliance) That will teach people to shut their mouth like they should do for this!

So in the list now we would have the dude who insulted pakistanis and remained hidden by coward sissy move to make his comment posted by someone else.

[~Zekk~]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

I don't get it. Pakistan is also a country, Isn't it? Jokes about France are often mocking the people themselves, namely the military and government leaders for being "weak" or "cowards".

So again I say, how can those jokes be so commonly accepted by so many people(including some French) while things like this are blown so wildly out of proportion?

I'm not saying I condone either French jokes or the joke that this incident is about, but what I can't stand here is that there are many people ranting and flaming zera here that have said many jokes about other countries and peoples. It makes you all seem really childish and ignorant, in my opinion.

[Legendary Apophis]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

Pakistan and Slovakia (referring to SK emperors topic where insults were thrown) are counties too...

And Zekk I condomne as much insults to a country than to any other one...being France Netherlands Slovakia Russia Ethiopia Iran Pakistan Colombia etc... no "particular" picking. Any country picked on is unacceptable, there is NO "ok" country to pick on, when will people understand it?

[semper]

no..the problem here is the french were not widely distributed as slaves for several hundred years so dont have a beef about racism and can take it like men. I mean how many times do I insult the americans on this forum or someone takes a dig at the birtish? I dont see either of us screaming racism. This is all about histroy I suppose....

(back to the french for a second...thats also mainly because history does support that that they are cowards, and did lose a lot of wars... bottom line here is, common opinion widely supports the former and well the second, its actual fact.)

[~Zekk~]

And Zekk I condomne as much insults to a country than to any other one...being France Netherlands Slovakia Russia Ethiopia Iran Pakistan Colombia etc... no "particular" picking. Any country picked on is unacceptable, there is NO "ok" country to pick on, when will people understand it?

That's right. Don't pick on countries, pick on whole planets.

Now, shall we talk about how stupid martins were for ignoring pollution and ruining they're planet? It's always fun to pick on dead people, isn't it?.

no..the problem here is the french were not widely distributed as slaves for several hundred years so dont have a beef about racism and can take it like men. I mean how many times do I insult the americans on this forum or someone takes a dig at the birtish? I dont see either of us screaming racism. This is all about histroy I suppose....

(back to the french for a second...thats also mainly because history does support that that they are cowards, and did lose a lot of wars... bottom line here is, common opinion widely supports the former and well the second, its actual fact.)

History is just that, history. We are to learn from it, apply its lessons to the present, and move on.

Racism isn't an acceptable thing, but neither is attacking and condemning the person responsible for the racism. Because when it comes to that, one is merely racist against racists. And as many wise men have said before; two wrongs do not make a right.

[Legendary Apophis]

no..the problem here is the french were not widely distributed as slaves for several hundred years so dont have a beef about racism and can take it like men.

About slaves there are many countries who did it, not only one...Only ONE country classified it as crime against humanity though...

And what the hell does the last part mean lol? (I know sense of words there of course, I mean what sense does this have)


@zekk: martins?
Uhhhh?

Martians right?

[~Zekk~]

im teh bad spellin emperor, remember? typoes are my forte.

i tried hard though, that was the first typo in this thread...i think

[~Artanis~]

i have a strange question...

whats different from what zera said, and what is said all the time about the French being cowards and losers? how come the people that say that aren't racist?

most probably because someone that has issues with me from the past saw it as a good opportunity to make a bigger idiot of me infront of the community or am I wrong?

I dont blame anyone.......what I said was wrong and it insulted people.....
It`s all about what kind of people you meet.....someone cares what some noob from other half the world thinks,others on the other hand dont bother and rather dont visit the forum and have some fun ingame which is most probably the best around here......

I always keep this in my mind

Ezop:
A good man can make a joke even about himself

I am not bothered even if I make a "fool" of myself if some people actually laugh....its just a game of words "fool","noob" or whatever else......what Mr. Ezop said is true and those people that take themselves too seriously and are bothered if someone makes a joke about them or are afarid to make a joke about themselves because it would kill their "reputation" than let them......
I know I and my mates have a fun even if they have a go at me or I do it myself

Heck when I was back in the UK I was working with lots of nice polish girls within the warehouse and believe when there was to few work I made 75% of the warehouse girls that were on the floor laugh.......what concerns me smile and happiness is always welcomed no matter what is the reason for it and so I add these happy dudes

PS: this actually doesnt have anything to do with rascism but seriously some people should have some fun and enjoy the game and not bully others and think its funny and cool and take themselves too seriosly,dont take life so seriosuly coz you will get out of it alive.......
If u cant play equally,share your toys and let other have fun as you do I suppose you dont deserve to play because spoiling a game for someone else and making them leave the game(educators and 56 mill agents dude) isnt what will keep this game so popular in the future.......
although you may try and annoy the whole server until you and those 30k dead acounts stay with you

[~Artanis~]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

Actually you are wrong......rascism isnt only about colour of your skin......anything insulting your religion,nationality,colour of skin is considered rascism......I do believe so.....

Although it isnt "rascistic" in the right way still you are insulting people and who they are.......eyyyy so am I wrong?

Lol and you all were bashing me to hell for JUDGING people for their ACTIONS......

As I said its all a game of words.....just playing with words,nothing else....people actually dont think about the issue and thats why smart posts shouldnt be ignored

EDIT:
would almost forget and stop spaming this thread.....was quite happy when I saw yesterday that the thread had 30 reviews already without any reply as I asked and you come here and continue to turn this into another flame thread.......

STOP IT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW

Go make yourself your own thread....agapoka was right you people are just looking for conflicts....constantly arguing and flaming each other.....I know its the fuel that helps you go forward but you all should think about yourself.....
I am not even amazed by the fact agapooka quit being an admin around here,poor guy

flame flame flame......thats what this forum has turned into
not even fireman Sam could save you all

Sean aka DB - mate take it easy and thx for your support.....dont give these people matches coz there will be another major fire here again

[Apadamek]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

I don't get it. Pakistan is also a country, Isn't it? Jokes about France are often mocking the people themselves, namely the military and government leaders for being "weak" or "cowards".

So again I say, how can those jokes be so commonly accepted by so many people(including some French) while things like this are blown so wildly out of proportion?

I'm not saying I condone either French jokes or the joke that this incident is about, but what I can't stand here is that there are many people ranting and flaming zera here that have said many jokes about other countries and peoples. It makes you all seem really childish and ignorant, in my opinion.

Highlighted and done with. French things are jokes, only idiots actually think that the French are cowards and have actually lost THAT many wars when you take into fact the amount of time France has been a country and power in Europe.

Saying Pakistanis are ignorant smelly people and be serious about it is different. Congratulations, you now know the difference between making a joke and saying ethnocentric comments.

Zera i think the apology was well meant and personally i never did hold any ill feeling toward you. So...meh.

[Legendary Apophis]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

I don't get it. Pakistan is also a country, Isn't it? Jokes about France are often mocking the people themselves, namely the military and government leaders for being "weak" or "cowards".

So again I say, how can those jokes be so commonly accepted by so many people(including some French) while things like this are blown so wildly out of proportion?

I'm not saying I condone either French jokes or the joke that this incident is about, but what I can't stand here is that there are many people ranting and flaming zera here that have said many jokes about other countries and peoples. It makes you all seem really childish and ignorant, in my opinion.

Highlighted and done with. French things are jokes, only idiots actually think that the French are cowards and have actually lost THAT many wars when you take into fact the amount of time France has been a country and power in Europe.

Saying Pakistanis are ignorant smelly people and be serious about it is different. Congratulations, you now know the difference between making a joke and saying ethnocentric comments.

Zera i think the apology was well meant and personally i never did hold any ill feeling toward you. So...meh.

Who said jokes were allowed?

[semper]

History is just that, history. We are to learn from it, apply its lessons to the present, and move on.

Racism isn't an acceptable thing, but neither is attacking and condemning the person responsible for the racism. Because when it comes to that, one is merely racist against racists. And as many wise men have said before; two wrongs do not make a right.

Unfortunately people obviously dont move on, otherwise there would not have been as much of a problem with what Zerathull said as there was. Like I said, ive seen many many comments on this forum that can be classed as racism, but no one else has moaned or made a massive thing out of it. Another example would be it would not be politically incorrect to call a black person black as opposed to african american.

Zekk, How can you be racist against a single racist person? Thats impossible. I point out the word RACIST. RACE. Not PERSIST... I get the point you were making though, I already made the same point in the GC's thread based around this.

Two wrongs never make it right, true, but then again neither does rolling over and being 'the bigger man' turning the other cheek.

@Jim. Thats a compliment Jim. Meaning the frogs dont sit there crying that everyone else thinks such things about them, you all just get on with it and make equally loverly comments about the rest of the world.

@ everyone reading. A few thoughts on racism, if you dont like what I type below reply with some logical argument or dont bother, but you insult or whine about this, and your actually just furthering my point.

The entire idea of racism is a farce created from guilt of the past. White people used other people as slaves from many eastern countries (which, no I personally dont have a problem with, all countries have had their idiocy patches...), and when the slaves got the rights they had deserved from day one, some of the white people were idiots and just couldnt let it go. So the idea of racism was created to quantify/describe/give a face to the aggressive behavior left in the wake of the dissolving slave industry. Only problem now is, it remains today with the same weight it had all those years ago and it clearly shouldnt be such a big thing anymore. I personally dont believe it is any different from picking on someone for being fat, bald, needing to wear glasses, mentally/residentially/vertically/financially challenged. If people can get away with all of the above I fail to see the difference.

You could say, well...ah ha! Semper, but you can lose weight, you can get a job, you can take growth hormone, you can have hair transplants, god you can get contact lenses and laser eye surgery! They can be changed with a little effort, time and money...hold the phone.. as dear Michael Jackson demonstrates, so to can the colour of ones skin. "Yeah, but Semper, the colour makes a person who they are, they shouldnt have to change that." Well firstly, they dont have to, secondly every feature of us makes us who we are. Over weight, glasses, stumpy and all.

I rest my case that racism is no more a crime then regular bullying/insulting, most of which I see ignored on a regular basis within these very forums, let alone in the real world.

I certainly dont see people in northern europe giving the italiens and greeks the top end of grief every time they make some remark about us, screaming to the high heaven racist! trying to exact some form of revenge. (Yet the Romans and greeks did like their slaves now, didnt they..)

Im quite pleased with that argument, it seems fairly sound. What Zerathull said was wrong, and he has apologized now. So im glad to see some people have burried the hatchet, and I hope the others can to, because if you cant well I hope the next time you insult someone in any way, you get massed to kingdom come, forced into vacation mode and near enough shunned by part of the community.

[~Artanis~]

France is a country, not a race fyi.

So it cant be RAC(E)ist... Get it, good.

I don't get it. Pakistan is also a country, Isn't it? Jokes about France are often mocking the people themselves, namely the military and government leaders for being "weak" or "cowards".

So again I say, how can those jokes be so commonly accepted by so many people(including some French) while things like this are blown so wildly out of proportion?

I'm not saying I condone either French jokes or the joke that this incident is about, but what I can't stand here is that there are many people ranting and flaming zera here that have said many jokes about other countries and peoples. It makes you all seem really childish and ignorant, in my opinion.

Highlighted and done with. French things are jokes, only idiots actually think that the French are cowards and have actually lost THAT many wars when you take into fact the amount of time France has been a country and power in Europe.

Saying Pakistanis are ignorant smelly people and be serious about it is different. Congratulations, you now know the difference between making a joke and saying ethnocentric comments.

Zera i think the apology was well meant and personally i never did hold any ill feeling toward you. So...meh.

thx mate,apreciated.....come to think of it.....I think few really took it a bit seriously....heck scorpia said pretty nasty things in about 40 pages involving even slovak nation into.....that time I was mad about it but I actually didnt need to make new thread about it even in the GC and call the whole server on scorpia...my slovak mates would be quite enough but meh what do i know.....maybe some people actually love conflicts and leave from it,thats why this forum is flamed so much

[~Zekk~]

History is just that, history. We are to learn from it, apply its lessons to the present, and move on.

Racism isn't an acceptable thing, but neither is attacking and condemning the person responsible for the racism. Because when it comes to that, one is merely racist against racists. And as many wise men have said before; two wrongs do not make a right.

Zekk, How can you be racist against a single racist person? Thats impossible. I point out the word RACIST. RACE. Not PERSIST... I get the point you were making though, I already made the same point in the GC's thread based around this.

Two wrongs never make it right, true, but then again neither does rolling over and being 'the bigger man' turning the other cheek.

You seem to have missed the 's'. I wasn't talking about just zera, or any other single racist. I was speaking of hating racists in general. I'm also not saying you should turn the other cheek, because thats not being "the bigger man", its simply being too nice. One should, however, be more mature and not throw a tantrum by trying to hurt the one who hurt them. Because that, in the end, will only become an endless cycle of hate.

I honestly, currently don't know how one should deal with things like that. I'm young, and immature myself to several degrees. But I don't believe that hate can fix hate, or as I said above; two wrongs wont make a right.

I also agree with your thoughts on what racism is, and how this incident is somehow biased compared to all the other incidents that happen all the time here and in rl. But it doesn't seem like its going to stop with this incident, either.

Who said jokes were allowed?

Ah! That's right! Who forgot to inform zera that jokes outside the temple are taboo?

[semper]

History is just that, history. We are to learn from it, apply its lessons to the present, and move on.

Racism isn't an acceptable thing, but neither is attacking and condemning the person responsible for the racism. Because when it comes to that, one is merely racist against racists. And as many wise men have said before; two wrongs do not make a right.

Zekk, How can you be racist against a single racist person? Thats impossible. I point out the word RACIST. RACE. Not PERSIST... I get the point you were making though, I already made the same point in the GC's thread based around this.

Two wrongs never make it right, true, but then again neither does rolling over and being 'the bigger man' turning the other cheek.

You seem to have missed the 's'. I wasn't talking about just zera, or any other single racist. I was speaking of hating racists in general. I'm also not saying you should turn the other cheek, because thats not being "the bigger man", its simply being too nice. One should, however, be more mature and not throw a tantrum by trying to hurt the one who hurt them. Because that, in the end, will only become an endless cycle of hate.

I honestly, currently don't know how one should deal with things like that. I'm young, and immature myself to several degrees. But I don't believe that hate can fix hate, or as I said above; two wrongs wont make a right.

I also agree with your thoughts on what racism is, and how this incident is somehow biased compared to all the other incidents that happen all the time here and in rl. But it doesn't seem like its going to stop with this incident, either.

Who said jokes were allowed?

Ah! That's right! Who forgot to inform zera that jokes outside the temple are taboo?

shakes hand*.
Fair enough.