"The ascended snipers"

[~Artanis~]

all's fair in love and war.

These buggers have found a way to get you all without cheating. I think the answer is actually really simple. Tough titties big guys.

This entire thread is bloody insane to be honest. Some people have a tactic and game play that tops the others, none of you can find away to get rid of it for good so now your here as a big angry mob crying because your all to used to the simple life at the top.

There is no problem with the ascended snipers, the problem lies with the, and I use the next word VERY lightly, 'victims' of the sniper tactic.

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Bottom line... "Boooo hoooo hooo..." Gimme a break..

Kudos to those who dont find it that much of a problem. *Thumbs up!!!!*

Why isnt it possible to build such a great acount in main semper as it is in ascended?
why?
1.because if you have planets you will lose them and so the extra bonu
2.unless you have an acount with a 150 mill army it isnt profitable aswell because you would get massed and lose your income so thats why it is good to be a sitting duck in main and not ascended

This isnt about the victims bragging but about people who can achieve within 3 months something that someone was working for 2-3 years...there is the difference
Big players on ascended sshould be allowed to grow as fast as those on main.....heck that guy has stats better than STI....gimme a break
It simply isnt right

[~Artanis~]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

I hope you enjoy being a big player and getting your account kicked to bits by someone that normaly wold not even make a dent.

I SAY NO MORE RANKMODS , i understand them for raiding ands so but a multiplyer for attackpower = joke . Its Jasons call , its his game , but we have to play it , and playing it like its now sucks and gives me no fun. I dont mind getting farmed / massed by a worthey opponent , hey i love the chalenge but getting it from someone that is being given it on a silver platter , screw that , let them do the effort we all did .

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Wel in main you can sit on someone , in ascention you cant even deascend a player with a brein

oh , wats the use , its all good as long as your the ones getting the benifit

totally agreed......if there can be players on main that are realyl big and almost untouchable like yourself why cant it be on ascension....
Its really true that the game just sucks for the big ones.....how come big players dont whine about the cap on main?
because they have planets to help thme grow
why do big players whin on ascension?
because they how no means how to keep ahead of others and in the top ranks,they are forced to sit there and watch how everyone is getting where they are or even ahead(snipers)

I would really wish all those that are "small" to beocme "big" so they could taste what is it lose 30-50% of their income a day

there isnt just one sniper on ascension so if one doesnt get you,the next one sure will,keep it in mind

[Raven]

the reason why snipers wont mass your defence down or assasinate it away is because turns are valuable on asc......so unless you plan to have multiple quads out or have a really bad assasin action they wont bother.....

Ofcourse if you bother them to much they might bite back

[Mordack]

foaming at the mouth Mojo Rising style.

Another keeper from you.... /me starts leaning towards likeing mr Mordack..

Wow, hehe, praise from Blahh. That's put an extra spring in my step today.

[Giovanni]

the reason why snipers wont mass your defence down or assasinate it away is because turns are valuable on asc......so unless you plan to have multiple quads out or have a really bad assasin action they wont bother.....

Ofcourse if you bother them to much they might bite back

Mwah, it's always funny when your strike is being assassinated and then afterwards you annihilate him

[semper]

all's fair in love and war.

These buggers have found a way to get you all without cheating. I think the answer is actually really simple. Tough titties big guys.

This entire thread is bloody insane to be honest. Some people have a tactic and game play that tops the others, none of you can find away to get rid of it for good so now your here as a big angry mob crying because your all to used to the simple life at the top.

There is no problem with the ascended snipers, the problem lies with the, and I use the next word VERY lightly, 'victims' of the sniper tactic.

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Bottom line... "Boooo hoooo hooo..." Gimme a break..

Kudos to those who dont find it that much of a problem. *Thumbs up!!!!*

Why isnt it possible to build such a great acount in main semper as it is in ascended?
why?
1.because if you have planets you will lose them and so the extra bonu
2.unless you have an acount with a 150 mill army it isnt profitable aswell because you would get massed and lose your income so thats why it is good to be a sitting duck in main and not ascended

This isnt about the victims bragging but about people who can achieve within 3 months something that someone was working for 2-3 years...there is the difference
Big players on ascended sshould be allowed to grow as fast as those on main.....heck that guy has stats better than STI....gimme a break
It simply isnt right

There is no difference. You cant win, so you dont like it. Its natural, but everyone else deals with it, you need to to.

I will say it again, life isnt fair, stop crying and get on...

A Dr can work for years and years saving peoples lives, they can get into thousands and thousands of £'s of debt, they can make between 60 and 150k a year in UK. A footballer works half what a DR does in trainign etc etc..they make millions. You tell me the justice there? Nope..there is none..whats done about it? NOTHING.

[Draleg]

A Dr can work for years and years saving peoples lives, they can get into thousands and thousands of £'s of debt, they can make between 60 and 150k a year in UK. A footballer works half what a DR does in trainign etc etc..they make millions.

Dont tell me you see that as a result of the RL rankmod ?

The Dr can always go work for a privat practise and make a lot more / go into plastic sergery ( boob jobs and so on ) and make tons so i dont really see the comparison .

And stop bringing in RL , we all come here to forget RL once in a while !

[Dizzy]

I dont want to see sniping taken away from ascended...... it is a style of play and people should be able to choose how they want to play the game. But, there also needs to be a balance on the server, and a way for those who get hit to fight back, and actually do some damage.

Keeping someone farmed 24/7 is not a viable way to descend someone. All someone needs to do is not bother upgrading their max LF and keep 1bil LF in cache.

Example:

Player A has lvl 20 max LF. That gives:
60600 max LF
909000 LF reserves

This player then leaves 1bil LF in cache after a farming run (only 20tril dmu). I have godquested players who have seemingly kept their LF that small for a reason.

Not taking into account LF refilling between ascended attacks, it would take approx 3095 direct assaults to use that LF up. Given that you can make 8 direct assaults per day, that is in excess of 1 years worth of hits before that is used up. All Player A has to do is login more often than every 9 hours and refill LF and reserves.

Look at it from risk vs reward. A sniper risks losing his/her planets. Big deal..... with a CER of 150mil they can be ready to go on another run in 7-10 days. Using the above example - a one hit descension would quite easilly put that player out of commission for a further 2 weeks - meaning 20-25 days until that player is ready to go for another farming run.

A potential solution is to
1) remove the damage cap for direct assaults if your ascended being's strike is more than 2-3x the total of your opponents LF + reserves.

and

2) in the future reduce the time it takes for ascended battles to take place to 1 hour or less. (An account with lvl 500 max LF has approx 576mil LF + reserves and with lvl 500 flow and chan regains 9.7mil per turn, considering lvl 500 LF/personal atk and skill gives 81mil ascended being strike it would take 10 hits to descend the player if battles last an hour)

and

3) ensure that new players have 60 days where they cannot be descended (is this already in place? I can't remember)

OR

4) Make LF cache a stealable resource.

AND/OR

5) Bring back raiding of planets

[Almost38]

A potential solution is to
1) remove the damage cap for direct assaults if your ascended being's strike is more than 2-3x the total of your opponents LF + reserves.
maybe
2) in the future reduce the time it takes for ascended battles to take place to 1 hour or less. (An account with lvl 500 max LF has approx 576mil LF + reserves and with lvl 500 flow and chan regains 9.7mil per turn, considering lvl 500 LF/personal atk and skill gives 81mil ascended being strike it would take 10 hits to descend the player if battles last an hour)
no
and

3) ensure that new players have 60 days where they cannot be descended (is this already in place? I can't remember)
already done
OR

4) Make LF cache a stealable resource.
LMAO no
AND/OR

5) Bring back raiding of planets
so every1 can complain again?

[Raven]

I dont want to see sniping taken away from ascended...... it is a style of play and people should be able to choose how they want to play the game. But, there also needs to be a balance on the server, and a way for those who get hit to fight back, and actually do some damage.

Keeping someone farmed 24/7 is not a viable way to descend someone. All someone needs to do is not bother upgrading their max LF and keep 1bil LF in cache.

Example:

Player A has lvl 20 max LF. That gives:
60600 max LF
909000 LF reserves

This player then leaves 1bil LF in cache after a farming run (only 20tril dmu). I have godquested players who have seemingly kept their LF that small for a reason.

Not taking into account LF refilling between ascended attacks, it would take approx 3095 direct assaults to use that LF up. Given that you can make 8 direct assaults per day, that is in excess of 1 years worth of hits before that is used up. All Player A has to do is login more often than every 9 hours and refill LF and reserves.

Look at it from risk vs reward. A sniper risks losing his/her planets. Big deal..... with a CER of 150mil they can be ready to go on another run in 7-10 days. Using the above example - a one hit descension would quite easilly put that player out of commission for a further 2 weeks - meaning 20-25 days until that player is ready to go for another farming run.

A potential solution is to
1) remove the damage cap for direct assaults if your ascended being's strike is more than 2-3x the total of your opponents LF + reserves.

and

2) in the future reduce the time it takes for ascended battles to take place to 1 hour or less. (An account with lvl 500 max LF has approx 576mil LF + reserves and with lvl 500 flow and chan regains 9.7mil per turn, considering lvl 500 LF/personal atk and skill gives 81mil ascended being strike it would take 10 hits to descend the player if battles last an hour)

and

3) ensure that new players have 60 days where they cannot be descended (is this already in place? I can't remember)

OR

4) Make LF cache a stealable resource.

AND/OR

5) Bring back raiding of planets

I dont see changing the damage cap on ascended battles change anything ....... i have yet to be hit with a full 1/3 blow and im sure ive been hit with the best ascended attack powers on the server.......

I think your vieuw on snipers is abit wrong too.
Its not taking a week to do it again.
If you know how to manage your lvls you could farm with a 6 quad strike every 2 days very soon after you started.
and the longer you go on the better your strike will be every 2 days as you gain more strike lvl and CER.


The only real solution for players who are bothered by this is just to invest in your def lvl.
It really helps alot and will probably take you out as a target in a while.

[~Artanis~]

all's fair in love and war.

These buggers have found a way to get you all without cheating. I think the answer is actually really simple. Tough titties big guys.

This entire thread is bloody insane to be honest. Some people have a tactic and game play that tops the others, none of you can find away to get rid of it for good so now your here as a big angry mob crying because your all to used to the simple life at the top.

There is no problem with the ascended snipers, the problem lies with the, and I use the next word VERY lightly, 'victims' of the sniper tactic.

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Bottom line... "Boooo hoooo hooo..." Gimme a break..

Kudos to those who dont find it that much of a problem. *Thumbs up!!!!*

Why isnt it possible to build such a great acount in main semper as it is in ascended?
why?
1.because if you have planets you will lose them and so the extra bonu
2.unless you have an acount with a 150 mill army it isnt profitable aswell because you would get massed and lose your income so thats why it is good to be a sitting duck in main and not ascended

This isnt about the victims bragging but about people who can achieve within 3 months something that someone was working for 2-3 years...there is the difference
Big players on ascended sshould be allowed to grow as fast as those on main.....heck that guy has stats better than STI....gimme a break
It simply isnt right

There is no difference. You cant win, so you dont like it. Its natural, but everyone else deals with it, you need to to.

I will say it again, life isnt fair, stop crying and get on...

A Dr can work for years and years saving peoples lives, they can get into thousands and thousands of £'s of debt, they can make between 60 and 150k a year in UK. A footballer works half what a DR does in trainign etc etc..they make millions. You tell me the justice there? Nope..there is none..whats done about it? NOTHING.

yes but this game isnt about talent .......and dont think that fotballers earn mone for not doing anything....they have trainings and have to constantly work on themselves so it isnt as easy as you think.......

[*zesh*]

well here is my 2 cents

the updates did screw up the server, but they made it fun

hell ive lost now about 4b planets and i have a 160m or so cer now simply cos its more fun then being a turtle.

you jsut have to accept you will lose your dmu at some time and that alone makes it more fun then main.

A tag or a monster def doesnt mean anything........

infact it drives people to be more active and thats why i say it shouldnt be changed

[Legendary Apophis]

4) Make LF cache a stealable resource.

AND/OR

5) Bring back raiding of planets

NO WAY @ both!

[semper]

A Dr can work for years and years saving peoples lives, they can get into thousands and thousands of £'s of debt, they can make between 60 and 150k a year in UK. A footballer works half what a DR does in trainign etc etc..they make millions.

Dont tell me you see that as a result of the RL rankmod ?

The Dr can always go work for a privat practise and make a lot more / go into plastic sergery ( boob jobs and so on ) and make tons so i dont really see the comparison .

And stop bringing in RL , we all come here to forget RL once in a while !

Well the game is part of real life, its here and it reflects the outside world. For the record, no matter what the Dr did in his profession, he would never make what a footballer does. Of course you would not see the comparison lol, because it nails one of your's and others main arguments in the head.

OH! and no I dont see it as a result of rank mod. Rank mod would be being in the royal family, or going to a posh school and having that name, rank of status given to you by such, carrying you.

[~Artanis~]

A Dr can work for years and years saving peoples lives, they can get into thousands and thousands of £'s of debt, they can make between 60 and 150k a year in UK. A footballer works half what a DR does in trainign etc etc..they make millions.

Dont tell me you see that as a result of the RL rankmod ?

The Dr can always go work for a privat practise and make a lot more / go into plastic sergery ( boob jobs and so on ) and make tons so i dont really see the comparison .

And stop bringing in RL , we all come here to forget RL once in a while !

Well the game is part of real life, its here and it reflects the outside world. For the record, no matter what the Dr did in his profession, he would never make what a footballer does. Of course you would not see the comparison lol, because it nails one of your's and others main arguments in the head.

OH! and no I dont see it as a result of rank mod. Rank mod would be being in the royal family, or going to a posh school and having that name, rank of status given to you by such, carrying you.

well you obviously still dont get it semper...your mixing apples with oranges...

to be a doctor,nurse or whatever else,that doesnt require any talent,you just go to school and learn the things you need to know so you can do it after you finish your school,it just takes to be active,learn and listen to what people say and teach you...on the other hand
Becoming a professionall footballer sint something that can be learned,ofcourse you have sport schools etc but in the end it depends your hard work and your talent
You cant teach someone to become a super footballer like marradona or pele were,they are legends
Its like you would ask a baby boy to be sent to school to be teached how to play piano and actually ask to make a him a musician genius just as was mozzart was at the age of 3....

Maybe Bill gates should make a school and teach people how to earn billions by being creative and creating such a program as windows and start selling it,you need to have a sort of talent,be creative and most of have luck so someone actually finds you and help you to get up and become "famous and earn millions"

for example
why cant you earn millions?...most probably because you dont have anything to offer the community and the whole world....are you a musician?scientist?actor?....I suppose you are not and thats why someone else will earn millions instead of you .....
only way you could get those millions is to win euro millions or some sort of a jackpot but hey!what are the odds of winnign right?

So in the end the difference why will doctor never earn as much as a professionall footballist is because he doesnt have a talent like the footballist

ohhh just came to me...
If u want a doctor to earn as much as a professional sportsman does,invite 40,000 people to one hall to watch how a brain surgery is done,although i think people wont find it as entertaining as football