The view over the fence

[~Artanis~]

Actually...

This is war game and anyone plays it the way he wants...


However you are right...I myself dont practice and am against the random massings or massings of the educators type.

I believe in We make war so we may live in peace and thats what I preach and will be practiced inside TL.
You fight for important things to you such as friends...untill that day comes you make sure you are in a right shape to protect what you love.


I dont see educators as bad ppl and neihter would you if you knew them. They are a very good bunch of ppl. However they do go against my beliefs in SGW.
So way let them...why stay with them...how to justify them...
You ppl dont know what you are saying.
If you knew TLE knew what it was about non of the above would be written.

Here is the diffrence. You can do whatever you want...whenever you want...But when you do some poo, clean it up yourself...
So TL TLE never was and wont be about ppl ganging up on someone...
Ppl still dont get it...


Friendship, freedom probably 2 most important things in TLE


Blue

I never said they are bad people......

this is the very same as was the "rascist" issue last time.....

I really hate repeating myself,I really do and hopefully for the very last time...

I am not judging people for who they are,nearly for their actions!!!

I never said you are bad people in RL or even ingame or that you do the same in RL although that would be another case...

Indeed it is a war game and many ingame situations can be compard to RL,although this is just a game and actions that happen have no RL application(atleast I hope noone is practising anything ingame in RL )

But although the game is about fights and wars every action has a reaction....you cant just go randomly massing people just because you can without an adequate reason....

its the very same in RL....

lets say omega are USA and DDE are Russia....now how would it look if those 2 countries would apply ingame actions to RL

Russia:what do you say we go and mass the French
USA:why?
Russia:because we are bored,it`s cold here and we wanna have some fun
USA:what will be our opening line when declaring war?
Russia:you look like homosexuals,we hate croasaints and we want your damn wine for free
USA:ok call me later when do you wanna start so we can make an cordinate attack

NOW THIS WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE,NOONE LOOKS LIKE A HOMOSEXUAL,COUNTRIES WERE CHOOSED RANDOMLY
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING

Now you see what i mean svarun? Russia and USA are not bad people but they could destroy the weaker just because they can and have the power to do it although the whole planet would be screwed if they would use those atomic bombs hiding under the ground....

I dont have a whatsoever problem with you warring people every day,massing them or whatever,but if u wanna do it you should have an adeqaute reason for that because in the end you are sort of spoiling the game for them although you call it fun...

either find a target adequate to your size or start thinking about reasons that wouldnt have written "I can mass you just because I can and because I am bored" on their foreheads

[madcat]

Actually...

This is war game and anyone plays it the way he wants...


However you are right...I myself dont practice and am against the random massings or massings of the educators type.

I believe in We make war so we may live in peace and thats what I preach and will be practiced inside TL.
You fight for important things to you such as friends...untill that day comes you make sure you are in a right shape to protect what you love.


I dont see educators as bad ppl and neihter would you if you knew them. They are a very good bunch of ppl. However they do go against my beliefs in SGW.
So way let them...why stay with them...how to justify them...
You ppl dont know what you are saying.
If you knew TLE knew what it was about non of the above would be written.

Here is the diffrence. You can do whatever you want...whenever you want...But when you do some poo, clean it up yourself...
So TL TLE never was and wont be about ppl ganging up on someone...
Ppl still dont get it...


Friendship, freedom probably 2 most important things in TLE


Blue

I never said they are bad people......

this is the very same as was the "rascist" issue last time.....

I really hate repeating myself,I really do and hopefully for the very last time...

I am not judging people for who they are,nearly for their actions!!!

I never said you are bad people in RL or even ingame or that you do the same in RL although that would be another case...

Indeed it is a war game and many ingame situations can be compard to RL,although this is just a game and actions that happen have no RL application(atleast I hope noone is practising anything ingame in RL )

But although the game is about fights and wars every action has a reaction....you cant just go randomly massing people just because you can without an adequate reason....

its the very same in RL....

lets say omega are USA and DDE are Russia....now how would it look if those 2 countries would apply ingame actions to RL

Russia:what do you say we go and mass the French
USA:why?
Russia:because we are bored,it`s cold here and we wanna have some fun
USA:what will be our opening line when declaring war?
Russia:you look like homosexuals,we hate croasaints and we want your damn wine for free
USA:ok call me later when do you wanna start so we can make an cordinate attack

NOW THIS WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE,NOONE LOOKS LIKE A HOMOSEXUAL,COUNTRIES WERE CHOOSED RANDOMLY
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING

Now you see what i mean svarun? Russia and USA are not bad people but they could destroy the weaker just because they can and have the power to do it although the whole planet would be screwed if they would use those atomic bombs hiding under the ground....

I dont have a whatsoever problem with you warring people every day,massing them or whatever,but if u wanna do it you should have an adeqaute reason for that because in the end you are sort of spoiling the game for them although you call it fun...

either find a target adequate to your size or start thinking about reasons that wouldnt have written "I can mass you just because I can and because I am bored" on their foreheads

lol zeratool

U say all this supposedly to complain about TLE ..........

have u seen ANY of the last 5 war threads from FUALL alliances? every single reason was ....... i'm bored!!!!

educators pick ppl to mass who have silly amounts of stats, most might not see it as a reason, but at least its not boredom!! haha, so u kinda dug urself into a hole there.

as for Svaruns comments, all u ppl think u know TLE ......... but u dont!! if someone masses u and u mass back, then it stays 1v1 is our policy, seeing as the guy who massed u prolly deserved retaliations if u mass 2/3 members .. thats when ur screwed!

if i go mass a single DDE guy now ..... u think i'd get the same treatment?

[Rocky]

have u seen ANY of the last 5 war threads from FUALL alliances? every single reason was ....... i'm bored!!!!

does that make them any better? TLE has a reputation though apparently, and all they are doing is ending up like Omega trying to war as many people as possible, there is hardly a difference now, great if thats what you want, but alot of people had different expectations from you guys.

[Brdavs]

if someone masses u and u mass back, then it stays 1v1 is our policy, seeing as the guy who massed u prolly deserved retaliations if u mass 2/3 members .. thats when ur screwed!

if i go mass a single DDE guy now ..... u think i'd get the same treatment?

Been that way since the early days of TL if I recall... no blank checks no matter what heh. And noone in TLE ever backed down from a honest 1v1 so no real need for them. So if any1 is claiming around to be having one do tell us and if he was out of line he`ll be facng the music... but if ppl choose to escalate we`re happy to oblige, aren`t we heh...

But I think ppls issue arent these fact but the fact that we have players very happy and willing to face the music on theirown if and whenever needed heh... It`s easier to cry foul play and accuse say zesh of abusing his tag than to stick it up to him in a 1v1 I guess.

[Envy]

Who gives a DAMN

its funnie... why digging old cows out if their pits.

OE will never be like TLE.
TLE will never be like OE.

Simple as that and this topic is hilarious.

[JediMasterX]

Who gives a DAMN

its funnie... why digging old cows out if their pits.

OE will never be like TLE.
TLE will never be like OE.

Simple as that and this topic is hilarious.

Agree 100%

[madcat]

have u seen ANY of the last 5 war threads from FUALL alliances? every single reason was ....... i'm bored!!!!

does that make them any better? TLE has a reputation though apparently, and all they are doing is ending up like Omega trying to war as many people as possible, there is hardly a difference now, great if thats what you want, but alot of people had different expectations from you guys.

lolololol soooooo we didnt live up to ur expectations wahhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhh, we never said we would!!!!

and yup, i agree with jedi n Envy

[SSG EnterTheLion]

damn the wannabes. Sorry there's only one Omega..and only one EtL!

[Tyveris]

you ought to see my neighbours lawn....

envy!

[Rocky]

have u seen ANY of the last 5 war threads from FUALL alliances? every single reason was ....... i'm bored!!!!

does that make them any better? TLE has a reputation though apparently, and all they are doing is ending up like Omega trying to war as many people as possible, there is hardly a difference now, great if thats what you want, but alot of people had different expectations from you guys.

lolololol soooooo we didnt live up to ur expectations wahhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhh, we never said we would!!!!

and yup, i agree with jedi n Envy

personally i never did have any expectations, ive always like TA better and respected them more, ive never looked into TLE, but thats a real good way to earn respect isn't it, be the good guys who save everyone in CIA vs COP and end up being the same tyrants as FUALL, thats fine with me mate, you do what you want, its a game, . no need to act like a baby mate

[madcat]

damn the wannabes. Sorry there's only one Omega..and only one EtL!

there can be only one feline here sir ..... i am the REAL cat!

i challenge you ...... to a duel *slaps with iron gauntlet*

be the good guys who save everyone in CIA vs COP and end up being the same tyrants as FUALL

can you read? many many times has it been said in here,

FUALL is FUALL
TLE is TLE

THEY'RE different

andddddddddd again ........ we never once came out and said we'd save ppl from the opression of COP, ya'll ppl just hoped that we would cuz at the time, no-one had the balls to do it ....... not a pot shot at u, simply stating the facts. TL WAS the catalyst that sparked the downfall of COP yes ..... but it wasnt the reason TL was formed.

[Mordack]

Did TLE ever claim to be 'the good guys', though? Did Svarun get up on a podium at the start of the CIA/COP war and announce his vision of a perfect utopian MMORPG where everybody lives in peace? Did Blahh promise to deliver you all to the holy land?

You're disappointed because you looked for something that was only there in your head.

[Rocky]

notice i said you were both tyrants, not you were the same, anyway i wasn't around in CIA vs COP, but thanks for the info m8

@mordack, its a war game, nothing is going to be ideal, and im flexible i never expected TLE to make the perfect mmorpg, but i didn't expect them to become tyrants, anyway how is a war game perfect with no war?

Commander Ford

[Amar]

educators pick ppl to mass who have silly amounts of stats, most might not see it as a reason, but at least its not boredom!! haha, so u kinda dug urself into a hole there.

That's a reason they made up to seem justified when they do get bored. It's a bully move which they only get away with because even though people could stop them, it would cause a war. By attacking players with that type of game style, they are trying to force them to play the game in their own way. If they were genuinely trying to teach people that having those stats isn't for the best of their accounts, they would do it diplomatically. And they would be attacking half the players around rank 1000, because many of those players have like 3 million army, and all it requires that much in killable stats just to be there.

In Conclusion:

Educators = Power Crazy Bullies

[Dr Toboggan]

And noone in TLE ever backed down from a honest 1v1 so no real need for them. So if any1 is claiming around to be having one do tell us and if he was out of line he`ll be facng the music

I once hit pipi one time, I had not hit any other TLE members in my 10 day attack log. He went to Galen (Thufir_Hawat), and got him to mass me. If that's not backing down from a 1v1 I don't know what is. Nonsense like this and other stuff like double standards, extortion, and bullying that I've personally experienced is why I turned against TLE. This is one of the reasons I've descended TLE members, farmed and massed them, and TLE members like SatyricoN is down to 500m and won't be back up to 2b to farm other people for 2+ weeks. I would also like to think that this has some role in 5 TLE members being on vacation mode in ascended and I suppose perhaps maybe also in main.