Debates of memorial day

[pianomutt20000]

and last but not least.


I friggin hate the central bank system myself, and believe that it's the reason behind the us recession. Andrew Jackson hated it as well....but we're stuck with it for now.



The two of you need to go back to school and get some education. Your economics isn't bad, but your history needs work.


Bill

[Draco Droka]

Hey, Nobody! my brother is an navy pilot now. you have no place hating that which stands between you and someone else killing you or someone you love. You can dislike some of the higher ups, but keep you biased comments to yourself. no one likes wars, but they serve a place in the economy, society, and the world. we live in an imperfect world, that's a fact; people are imperfect, nations are imperfect. yeah it would be great to live in a warless world, but that can't exist as long as members of fanatical cults are allowed to survive. it's Memorial Day, get a soul.

[nobodyhere]

and last but not least.


I friggin hate the central bank system myself, and believe that it's the reason behind the us recession. Andrew Jackson hated it as well....but we're stuck with it for now.



The two of you need to go back to school and get some education. Your economics isn't bad, but your history needs work.


Bill

heres some history for you...

the international bankers are the same people who christ booted from the temple because they were making a profit on the only coin that was acceptable for paying the temple tax, they are the gold smiths who were the first bankers and who later became the international bankers. they were also responsible for murdering Julius Caesar because he took from the gold smiths the ability to coin money and gave it back to the roman senate. this act alone endeared Caesar to the hearts of the roman people because money became plentiful amongst the people.
when a government is rich in tends to spend the money on public works there by circulating the cash amongst the populace.

and heres some more history for you...

Andrew Jackson is the only president to have shut down the central bank system and repay the national debt in America, Lincoln came close but was assassinated on the orders of the bankers.

and if memory serves there was also an attempt on Andrew Jacksons life but with the grace of god he either survived or the assassin failed.

see, my history is not so bad either

i have said what i wanted to say so i'll leave you to it but please spare a thought not just for the troops but the innocent lives which have been ruined.

[Steve the Wraith]

Greetings SGW players,


Every year, on certain holidays I make a post for remembrance. This monday, is Memorial day.


This is a day to remember the fallen who died for our freedoms and rights. Every country that I am aware of, has a similar holiday of their own to this effect. As a veteran myself, and having lost friends and comrades, I ask that you take a part of your weekend, no matter how short, and remember.


Freedom is sweet, but is often paid for with a bitter price. Regardless of if you support current conflicts or not, never forget that the soldier never decides where to go, whom to attack. Please do not blame our military for the politicians folly.


Semper Fidelis,

Bill

One Word... Hooooooah

[Phoenix of Terra]

Greetings SGW players,


Every year, on certain holidays I make a post for remembrance. This monday, is Memorial day.


This is a day to remember the fallen who died for our freedoms and rights. Every country that I am aware of, has a similar holiday of their own to this effect. As a veteran myself, and having lost friends and comrades, I ask that you take a part of your weekend, no matter how short, and remember.


Freedom is sweet, but is often paid for with a bitter price. Regardless of if you support current conflicts or not, never forget that the soldier never decides where to go, whom to attack. Please do not blame our military for the politicians folly.


Semper Fidelis,

Bill

One Word... Hooooooah

Agreed. Hooah and God Bless.

Create a conspiracy thread for the rest of the crap in here.

[Steve the Wraith]

Greetings SGW players,


Every year, on certain holidays I make a post for remembrance. This monday, is Memorial day.


This is a day to remember the fallen who died for our freedoms and rights. Every country that I am aware of, has a similar holiday of their own to this effect. As a veteran myself, and having lost friends and comrades, I ask that you take a part of your weekend, no matter how short, and remember.


Freedom is sweet, but is often paid for with a bitter price. Regardless of if you support current conflicts or not, never forget that the soldier never decides where to go, whom to attack. Please do not blame our military for the politicians folly.


Semper Fidelis,

Bill

One Word... Hooooooah

Agreed. Hooah and God Bless.

Create a conspiracy thread for the rest of the crap in here.

Agreed

[pianomutt20000]

nato invaded Afghanistan not just america

oh please, dont think me a fool and i wont think you one!

and who do you think owns nato?

also, i am not just pointing the finger at america, every nation that went in with the america is just as guilty of mass murder, genocide and war crimes...

let me ask you this almost...did you know that since the first gulf war america has been dumping its depleted uranium (packed into bombs) on the Iraqi civilian populace?

First off, the depleted uranium isnt in bombs...it's in tank shells and tank armor. 2nd. America isn't owned by the world, so the world courts can lick my **Filtered** for all i care. Personally, i think that we should have declared war. But nobody, can say that anything is illegal. Congress authorized the conflict, and it's a police action not a war.


Yeah, i know how dumb that is. But that **Filtered** flys in the legal world. Congress could have declared war, but doesn't have to. No country can inflict it's beliefs or laws on the USA unless they can make us.


No country can make us, period.

Bill


Urugard, you are a pacifist....why do you play a war game?

[Johannes]

Yeah, America isnt owned by the World, so the world courts can't do **Filtered**.

However, the America can host, to quote you, police actions to what ever nation they like. How the hell does that make sense to you?

And to whever said war is "a part of economics, society and the world". You're scaring me man. War being part of economics is one of the few reasons this world is so **Filtered** up. Its fundamentally wrong and I dont know how you can't see that

[urogard]

bill if all i would know about history would have only come from what i learnt in school i would have about a hundredth of the insight i have about it now.

Reading books and on the web about issues and watching documentaries dealing with them from all sides and from the inside does give me a balanced view.

And concerning yugoslavia you should get your facts straight, and by that i mean not just reading western propaganda but actually taking into account all possible sources. Serbs commiting genocide on albanians is about as much true as there were polish troops attacking germans before hitler invaded poland. It would be dumb to try and say no albanians got killed by serbs but compared to how many serbs the albanians drove out of their homes, killed, raped and whatnot it's a ridiculous amount. That's like comparing someone breaking both your arms and legs and because you've thrown some dirt at the attackers clothes during the fight you will have the rest of your other bones broken by a third party

And i'm not saying the military is all about murder, it's about helping your country when in need of that help, but if you want to argue that any soldier who is voluntarily shipped of into iraq thinking he will not get into a situation where he kills a person of his own initiative (since he agreed personally to go to iraq) but at best kills in "self defence" is an ignorant fool and deserves a prison sentence. That's like breaking into someone's house and when the owner attacks you trying to prevent you from stealing his possesions and you kill him you will plead "self defence", no judge would ever let that pass.
Every person killed is a son or a daughter of someone and very often a father or mother of someone too.

Sidenote: I never said i'm a pacifist, I disagree with killing people for whatever reason, i also disagree with using violence whenever possible BUT:
1) as you said it's a war GAME, game isn't RL, I also play BF2, AoE and many other games where i kill and destroy things, does that make any difference?
2) even here you can ask many people telling you how I often first use diplomacy whenever possible, steve, G, pete are just a few examples to name, did that ever stop me from fighting a war if there was no other way out? I can't recall such an example
3) sometimes you are left with no other choice, even when fighting in self defence you can go all out or just the minimal amount necesary.

[Solus]

Semper Fidelis,

Bill

One Word... Hooooooah

Agreed. Hooah and God Bless.

also agreed. Hooah.

And to whever said war is "a part of economics, society and the world". You're scaring me man. War being part of economics is one of the few reasons this world is so **Filtered** up. Its fundamentally wrong and I dont know how you can't see that

evidently you dont know how the real world works. There are threats in this world and part of a governments responsibility is to protect its people. at least by our standards anyway. As such, war is very much a part of the economy. if this world was perfect and we didnt fight wars, your logic might be appliccable, however Wars happen for a reason.

this is completely hypothetical: would you prefer that your home country was invaded and because warfighting was not part of its economy you were defenceless? and what happens if this invading group happen to be less than scrupulous as far as international war laws are concerned?

another aspect of war being a part of the economy, what do you say about all those people all across the world in civillian defence contractor organisations or businesses? you think they dont get paid? If they didnt it wouldnt be much of an economy. without military defence, there are jobs lost. sounds harsh and somewhat sadistic i know but its how it works. war is very much a part of the economy, globally. our militaries need technology, and that technology has to come from somewhere.

[Phoenix of Terra]

This post isn't for the conspiracy theorists (directly), it's for the mods. Please, cut from here to here and here to here, along with this, if possible. Place it in another thread called "Domination of the Central Banking System, and Side Notes" or something along those lines. But as an American army brat, I feel that the rambling discussion has no place in a thread honoring our fallen.

[Steve the Wraith]

This post isn't for the conspiracy theorists (directly), it's for the mods. Please, cut from here to here and here to here, along with this, if possible. Place it in another thread called "Domination of the Central Banking System, and Side Notes" or something along those lines. But as an American army brat, I feel that the rambling discussion has no place in a thread honoring our fallen.

Hooah

[Iƒrit]

I would like to thank you soulless, i was i bit slow returning to the forum. I believe you perfectly understand my point. Another aspect of the war-economy link is the fact that wars utilize all exess resources; labor, capital, ect. that would otherwise go to waste in a slowing economy liken to today in america. the same thing happened in germany prior to world war 2. the truth is, war brings country's out of depressions. for many reasons, sadly this includes depleting the supply of labor. simply put, the smaller the population, the easier it is to create jobs. it's sad but that's the connection between the two. it was been this way for all time and not likely to change know. and for anyone else that disagrees with this topic, please create another that would be devoted to the debate. thank you again soulless.

I believe what you are properly refering to is Eugenics? A theroy that has been talked about through out history and has found its self to be manifasted into many other therories such as biometrics, and social biology. Even implied into some societies such as China today. I believe that if properly viewed that some could see these therories and practices as a global movement by the class of elities and and some point in the future, very soon to be, will be implimented globaly. Many of these elites have been known to support these scientific practicies and even have donated portions of their wealth to there research and development as well as donated to their movements through out history. I recommend a film for you to review that is highly educational and informative. Please watch and become in awe as we slowly appoarch the new world order and plans for us as humans to become slaves to a small group of dominate men.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... SRBA&hl=en

the film doesnt begin with what I stated but view its enterity and learn what I speak of.

[Draco Droka]

thank you for the link, i will watch it and comment back later. though i don't see how self called elites could implement such an under taking, first it would take so much time that no one person in the beginning could ever live to see the ending.

the only counter to such a movement would be a baby boom. a sudden increase in population would undermine the plans of this people. and an observation i've just made is that the modern baby boom occurred after ww2, if that is taken to the context of history and it is safe to assume that such will happen again in the near future as troops return form the middle east.

[Solus]

thank you again soulless.

No Problem.

but seriously its a part of the economy whether we like it or not. not to acknowledge it as such is naive.