Public Service Announcement- The Educators

[rusteroo]

bloody lawyers the only good lawyer is a dead one

[TheRook]

You are hitting guys weaker than you...just to provoke a war.

As a member of a "smaller" Alliance/Empire

We receive hits from FUALL, and TLE and you know the general response when we pm people about it is generally "tough luck" or if we hit back for naq/DMU it will result in a massing of the member who hits back or infact some times the whole alliance...

now all this is from the point of view what Buck's alliance and "The Educators" are doing is doing what I have wanted to do for about 6 months.... just hit every person in the game and not have to worry about my alliance mates suffering for it...

after all my actions are purely what I choose to do... and at the same point my actions quite possibly got WoB in the war with Mayhem which in turn Mayhem brought in our two training alliances...

People in this game seem all to keen to complain about people hitting those weaker and smaller than you yet the policies that come "straight from the horses mouth" FUALL (OE, DDE and Mayhem) generally will bring in the smaller weaker training alliances... if they are at war with the main alliance in that empire...



at what point do you feel you have any right to complain about someone else hitting your weaker members if its generally standard policy in FUALL?


TheRook

[TheRook]

by the way how much naq have you 2 stole so far? just curious maybe i will make an alliance called the teachers if it seems like it would be profitable

look at it this way... I've scanned the ranks of FUALL & TJP...

If I had my strike up at around 2 trill I could make a lot of naq very very quickly... and then rinse and repeat to grow incredibly quickly

the other day I could have hit a DDE member for 320bill naq on a 700bill defence... I chose not to as that would just cause more greif (and it was about 2 hours before we started war with Mayhem)... but it just goes to show people rely too much on their alliance tags and naps...

after all a 5 mill armysize member of delta had 45 bill naq out... now that I took...

but it just raises a question at what point did people suddenyl become invincible because of their alliance tag... most people hold back because their actions are passed onto their alliance/empire... people in the game are too quick to start attacking the smaller members because they cant do enough damage to one person/alliance to make them happy (Mayhem)

TheRook

[Severian]

You are hitting guys weaker than you...just to provoke a war.

at what point do you feel you have any right to complain about someone else hitting your weaker members if its generally standard policy in FUALL?


TheRook

The point when a circumstance arises which can be exploited and capitalised upon for political gain which in this case is the decriminalisation of FAULL in its dash for the moral high ground while driving the hate-train in vilifying TLE. It’s no secret the strategic decision for the large investment in social capital and proactive manipulation of the public through a series of juxtaposition situations over time in an attempt to erode traditional TLE support bases while increasing their own, especially in such volatile times leading up to the end of the current NAP agreement.

The most dangerous piper is the one who has you dancing to his tune without you ever hearing the music.

Sometimes you just have to be frank.

[Noobert]

people in the game are too quick to start attacking the smaller members because they cant do enough damage to one person/alliance to make them happy (Mayhem)

TheRook

Maybe if you finished an actual active players defense, we wouldn't be having to hear your whining. As for the '13' people in your Alliance, only 1 was off PPT by the end of the first 12 hours. She did a very good job giving us lots of fun.

Like we said earlier, we are not going to play by your rules. It was a smart move to bring in people who could feed your naq/uu. Get over it. It's a war game, who thought anybody would use a real war strategy in this game? What a surprise..

[TheRook]

Maybe if you finished an actual active players defense, we wouldn't be having to hear your whining.

Well those active players at the time who we were massing jumped on ppt...

Like we said earlier, we are not going to play by your rules. It was a smart move to bring in people who could feed your naq/uu. Get over it. It's a war game, who thought anybody would use a real war strategy in this game? What a surprise..

yes fortunately for the Warlords of Briton we rely on people with less than 10 million armysize for all our NAQ/AT and UU...

TheRook

[Snow Wulf]

you can defenetly get ATS of them...market trades...their piled ATS....and besides you started the war, fleed to PPT and tought we will just sit there and pout? We rather had soem fun and took on the whole empire of yours....And i tought empires are supose to be strong.....

[Noobert]

Maybe if you finished an actual active players defense, we wouldn't be having to hear your whining.

Well those active players at the time who we were massing jumped on ppt...

Like we said earlier, we are not going to play by your rules. It was a smart move to bring in people who could feed your naq/uu. Get over it. It's a war game, who thought anybody would use a real war strategy in this game? What a surprise..

yes fortunately for the Warlords of Briton we rely on people with less than 10 million armysize for all our NAQ/AT and UU...

TheRook

Really? So I jumped on PPT? I sat there, waiting to be attacked with my defense.. it took about 20 hours and was done while I was sleeping. Not to mention, a few of us struck back and then you fled to PPT because you could not remove their defense.



Should I name some of your other people in KoB or woB that would have definatly been a help to your income and UU?

Let's see.. 9 from KoB and 5 from woB that are above 20+ mill army size that are able to give funds. I wonder, I wonder.. oh how I wonder how much they could give you. Not to mention the onslaught of ATs.

[Legendary Apophis]

after all a 5 mill armysize member of delta had 45 bill naq out... now that I took...

I guess you meant 50mil as I doubt Delta has anyone under 40mil in its ranks, but my point isn't this. Two monthes and half ago, not being member of any of big empires, I regularly woke up with 30-55bil naq out with a def ranked in 2k, of 120bil powers...I can say Blahh and all farmers were already in "bizness" and appeared in logs for naq hits. Time passed, and strangely unlike what I could have thought, being devaluation of naq even more, and being hit for bigger and bigger amounts, the total opposite happend. Being hit for 15-25bil became regular, while in beginning of this year, finding a hit for < 24bil was only once per two weeks maximum. All of this to say:
FUALL and TLE don't always have "ridiculous" amounts out, they just have "profitable" most of time, or can I say, LOGICAL amounts out, NOT CONSIDERING their tags, because as I said, the 40bil naq on 120bil def was regular to me three monthes ago, now only FUALL and TJP can get away with it not being stolen. What we can think about is not how can they keep that much, but more, how can others can't keep that "much"! What was regular three monthes ago is now only for "protected people", there's something wrong...
People seem to have forgotten what is crazy amount, remember, "protected members" had 70bil naq with 40bil def, even them now they need to build a defence to keep above what I or other "not protected" people were able to keep 60% of times.
Can someone explain me why people farm for so low amounts these days?
Afterall, we raid for bigger amounts, why farm for smaller amounts??

[TheRook]

@ Legendary Apophis - yes thats true as more and more people who are able to hit them for naq are doing so and in effect it is forcing them to increase their defences

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

[dastupy]

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

how big?
5trill big?

[TheRook]

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

how big?
5trill big?

lol mines bigger... I can hold approximately 3-4 weeks full income... cant remember exactly been a while since I worked it out...

edit its about 27 days (so almost 4 weeks)

[Noobert]

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

As will I, as I do not like to post about such things here. But I will say one last thing.

You have not been a part of mH, you do not know how it is here. Yet you throw our name into the dirt, over what? Some silly message? Everybody has their opinion, and is free to voice it. But if you are saying things about other people that you do not even know, it should be kept to ones self.

As for the situation of UU/AT/Naq, I did not once say you were not able to supply yourselves. I was saying that if they were basically supplying you with naquadah, untrained units, and/or ATs that it would be more beneficial for us to bring them into the fray then leave them there being a mule for you all. Besides, you do not know how big our banks are either. That is how I see it anyways.

Just stop this rubbish man, if you want to have a debate come PM me in game. It's no use here as it will only cause more and more hate where it is not needed.

<3,
Noobert.

[Snow Wulf]

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

how big?
5trill big?

lol mines bigger... I can hold approximately 3-4 weeks full income... cant remember exactly been a while since I worked it out...

edit its about 27 days (so almost 4 weeks)

may god you rly should work on that income......

[Legendary Apophis]

@ Legendary Apophis - yes thats true as more and more people who are able to hit them for naq are doing so and in effect it is forcing them to increase their defences

@ Noobert - i'll stop this line of conversation as its off topic and will get us nowhere as you dont know that we Warlords are capable of supplying ourselves with UU/AT and also the amount of naq we keep saved up for wars but needless to say our bank sizes are big...

theRook

I meant also that now outside of empires people are hit for NON profitable amounts more and more (don't say they are, in past people were hit for MORE, and we all know naq has its value decreasing, so I'm right in this! ).