many times Bill (Pianomutt) has said that i was a good alliance CO while i was AK leader, even tho it was nearly 2 years ago, and still to this day he keeps saying that i was a good leader. personally i don't think i was any good and i know that others have done a better job than me including Bahamut. i think i was an excellent 2ic while Tomo was leader but, i have never rated my leadership as successful because AK had zero growth under my leadership.
so i was thinking, what makes a good (or bad) leader in peoples eyes, growth, membership numbers, wars won?
what makes a good alliance leader?
-
nobodyhere
- Forum Irregular
- Posts: 273
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:06 pm
what makes a good alliance leader?
in a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
~George Orwell
~George Orwell
-
Mystikal Fever
- Forum Regular
- Posts: 714
- Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:31 am
- Alliance: The Gladiators
- Race: Ancient
- ID: 91926
- Location: England
- Nox
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1003
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:56 pm
- Alliance: TA
- Race: Nox
- ID: 5469
- Location: Portugal
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Mystikal Fever wrote:Amount of cookies given.
and beer
now seriously, i think a good alliance leader needs foremost to put his alliance needs in front of his own or another single person, and depending on the alliance type of gameplay, being a diplomatic person always helps


- blahh
- Forum Elite
- Posts: 1570
- Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:09 pm
- Alliance: Free as a bird
- Race: T101
- ID: 1337
- Location: dislocated
- Contact:
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
wouldnt know, i always thought i sucked at leadership...
I m a simple mind... point me and i ll shoot in that direction... anything above that and the hay in my head starts to brun
but if i d have to guess.. it would be in the lines of selfsacrifice, and willingness to put others be4 you... other stuf folow after that.
I m a simple mind... point me and i ll shoot in that direction... anything above that and the hay in my head starts to brun
but if i d have to guess.. it would be in the lines of selfsacrifice, and willingness to put others be4 you... other stuf folow after that.
We arent evil...
we just dont like you. (TheBlade™)

Blagor se bolnim na duhu kajti njih tema je vecna

- semper
- The sharp-tongued devil you can't seem to forget...
- Posts: 7290
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:24 pm
- Race: God
- ID: 0
- Location: Forever watching...always here...
- Contact:
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
charisma, intelligence, will power, experience, a spine, loyalty...
or a great ability to lie.
or a great ability to lie.
Accolades/Titles:
Spoiler
Started Playing: April 2005
Honours (5): Hall of Fame 2009. Annual Awards Host 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015.
Winner (12): RP'er of the Year 2008, Runner Up Poster of the Year 2008, Debater of the Year 2008, War of the Year 2008, Poster of the Year 2009, Alliance of the Year 2009 (Nemesis Sect, Creator), Alliance War of the Year 2009 (Nempire vs Mayhem, Instigator), RP'er Runner Up 2009, Knew You'd Be Back 2010, Conflict of the Decade (FUALL v TF), Conflict of the Decade Runner Up (Ga vs TF), Alliance of the Decade (TDD).
Nominated (8): Writer of the year 2007, Avatar of the Year 2007, Poster of the Year 2007, Villain of the Year 2008, Player Sig 2008, Race Player of the Year 2009, Most Missed 2010, Alliance Leadership 2010, Most Missed 2011.
Commands (3): Supreme System Lord 2008, 2010, 2011 and 2012. System Lord Council 2006 - present. Dark Lord and Emperor of the Nempire 2009 - 2011.
Alliances (9): DDE, EA, OSL, TFUR, DDEII, AI, RM, WoB, Nemesis.
Forum Roles (4): Former Misc GM, Race Mod (Goa'uld), Debate forum patriarch and mod.
Honours (5): Hall of Fame 2009. Annual Awards Host 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015.
Winner (12): RP'er of the Year 2008, Runner Up Poster of the Year 2008, Debater of the Year 2008, War of the Year 2008, Poster of the Year 2009, Alliance of the Year 2009 (Nemesis Sect, Creator), Alliance War of the Year 2009 (Nempire vs Mayhem, Instigator), RP'er Runner Up 2009, Knew You'd Be Back 2010, Conflict of the Decade (FUALL v TF), Conflict of the Decade Runner Up (Ga vs TF), Alliance of the Decade (TDD).
Nominated (8): Writer of the year 2007, Avatar of the Year 2007, Poster of the Year 2007, Villain of the Year 2008, Player Sig 2008, Race Player of the Year 2009, Most Missed 2010, Alliance Leadership 2010, Most Missed 2011.
Commands (3): Supreme System Lord 2008, 2010, 2011 and 2012. System Lord Council 2006 - present. Dark Lord and Emperor of the Nempire 2009 - 2011.
Alliances (9): DDE, EA, OSL, TFUR, DDEII, AI, RM, WoB, Nemesis.
Forum Roles (4): Former Misc GM, Race Mod (Goa'uld), Debate forum patriarch and mod.
- Nox
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1003
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:56 pm
- Alliance: TA
- Race: Nox
- ID: 5469
- Location: Portugal
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Semper wrote:charisma, intelligence, will power, experience, a spine, loyalty...
or a great ability to lie.
damn, so described me so well here
not the first part, the 2nd part ofc


- Pele
- Forum Irregular
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:52 pm
- Alliance: The Dark Legion
- Race: Ancient
- ID: 23879
- Location: Scotland
- Contact:
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Respect. Some people just have your respect without doing anything. It is hard to earn respect.
I remember during the heights of Blahh's exams he still found time to council me through some tough times I was having in real life. I think the ability to distinguish between the game and real life(where you are equals) is another good quality.
I remember during the heights of Blahh's exams he still found time to council me through some tough times I was having in real life. I think the ability to distinguish between the game and real life(where you are equals) is another good quality.



-
ThunderCat
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1200
- Joined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:42 pm
- Alliance: ExSol
- Race: Goa'uld
- ID: 35540
- Location: In Rome, stealing everything not nailed down
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
You have to be able to negotiate.
You have to be able to compromise.
You have to be cunning.
You have to take and work through criticism.
You have to use criticism to improve.
You have to know your alliance's abilities.
You have to be able to compromise.
You have to be cunning.
You have to take and work through criticism.
You have to use criticism to improve.
You have to know your alliance's abilities.

- Mordack
- The Spider
- Posts: 4814
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:37 pm
- ID: 8500
- Location: Underneath the spreading chestnut tree
-
Honours and Awards
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
You have to keep everybody sweet.
"I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me.."
(TB)
(TB)
-
Don Lewis
- Forum Regular
- Posts: 694
- Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:29 am
- ID: 57273
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Task delegation, get the right people doing the right job and it will all fall into place 
Other than that i'd say being surrounded by a team you can trust who are also very capable.
In reality its not charisma, courage or patience that will make you a succesfull alliance, its organisation.
Don.
Other than that i'd say being surrounded by a team you can trust who are also very capable.
In reality its not charisma, courage or patience that will make you a succesfull alliance, its organisation.
Don.
-
Mystake
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:40 pm
- Alliance: Dominium of Chaos
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 50147
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Contact:
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Semper wrote:charisma, intelligence, will power, experience, a spine, loyalty...
or a great ability to lie.
I couldn't figure out how to say it, so I'm just going to quote Semper because those are exactly what I thought of.
TRADE FEEDBACK - I am an A+ trader! Safest $ trades in all of SGW. I do escrow services too!
http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 48&t=83709
Former member of what became the Alliance of the Year of 2009, Nemesis Sect.


http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 48&t=83709
Former member of what became the Alliance of the Year of 2009, Nemesis Sect.

Mathlord wrote:The Reclaimer has been descended as a result of the battle!!!
Good times
-
yue strike
- Fledgling Forumer
- Posts: 158
- Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:55 am
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
Many others have said great qualities, and I believe a leader needs many, but most of all I want a leader who knows what he can and can't do. What his strengths and weaknesses are, and getting a good team that can help pick up the slack or his weak points.

(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(")_(")signature to help him gain world domination
-
nobodyhere
- Forum Irregular
- Posts: 273
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:06 pm
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
going by peoples replies here, i was not only the best but worst alliance leader EVER

in a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
~George Orwell
~George Orwell
- Bad Wolf
- The Man Behind the Curtain
- Posts: 4107
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:54 am
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 0
- Location: The Grassy Knoll
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
nobodyhere wrote:going by peoples replies here, i was not only the best but worst alliance leader EVER![]()
![]()
Anyone with a Orwell quote in there sig makes a good leader
Joking aside, I think a great leader needs vision.
They need to know where the alliance is going, how to get there, and on the journey everyone in the alliance must be happy.
The Fighters need war
The Peace Lovers need Peace
The Spammers need freedom to post
Its all about keeping everyone happy, playing the same game and reading from the same page.
Its a free game so you can't make people play the way you want them to, you have to just get the best you can from people you've got.
Because the best.... Is all you can give.
Bad Wolf
The Man Behind the Curtain

- Legendary Apophis
- Forum History
- Posts: 13681
- Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:54 pm
- Alliance: Generations
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 7889
- Alternate name(s): Apophis the Great
- Location: Ha'TaK
Re: what makes a good alliance leader?
nobodyhere wrote:going by peoples replies here, i was not only the best but worst alliance leader EVER![]()
![]()
Before we take into consideration how I could be if I was a leader (again), I guess you shouldn't start speculating you're the worst leader G!
Or a leader is someone that can unite people into one banner, incarnate this banner best and who's by its members considered as the only leader possible, just because this person has proved him/herself already. Impact on members is important, so yes, charisma is important. When you get unanimously (spell?) votes on a poll who incarnates best leadership and who's best to do this, you can consider yourself a good leader, as your troops trust you to command them.
After of course, we can talk about efficiency of growth etc...but imo, members being happy of their leader is important. Evryone does mistakes, but not everyone can be considered as incarnation of an alliance, even thru their mistakes.

Spoiler
Incarnate - LG - LG1 - LG2 - LG3 - LG4 - AG - EAG ~ AGoL - Completed
Spoiler
<Dmonix> Damnit Jim how come every conversation with you always ends up discussing something deep and meaningful?
<Dmonix> We always end up discussing male/female differences or politics or football
<Dmonix> All the really important issues in life
<Dmonix> We always end up discussing male/female differences or politics or football
<Dmonix> All the really important issues in life


