Broker bug

[Nimras]

Right this is annoying i anyone having ideas.

Right in all the cases i explaine there is enough bank space for the transfers:

Right i set up a broker asking to recieve 730bill and send him 1AT the dude accepted all went to bank.

Now i owed some of the money away and told the dude i was owing to set up a broker to me for the naq he did 1at of his for 657bill from me.

As you can c easct same thing done where it goes strange is when i accepted the broker the NAQ did not go to bank but in the open.

How the hell can it go to the open when i just did it my self the esact way where i brokered someone for 730bill he accept and they went to my bank??

The bank space was not full in any case.

It have seen this a few times and even in rare times where i have to accept a broker giving away 1at and recieve naq where the naq instead of being banked gets to the open its not a problem here since i am at least online.

But in my friend case it ended up someone farmed the naq.

Any idears??

[Clarkey]

Right this is annoying i anyone having ideas.

I have ideas all the time!!!!

The fact is whoever is brokering someone naq should not be the one to set the broker.

ingame it says this:
NOTE: If you are initiating a trade, and trading your goods for Naquadah and THE TRADE IS ACCEPTED, the Naquadah will be put into your bank - IF YOU HAVE ROOM!
If your bank is full, (or the trade expires), the amount is left 'in the open' (so if you have a full bank, it is advisable to be online at the time it is accepted). If you cannot hold the Naquadah in your bank, and cannot accept this risk, do not initiate a trade where you are trading Naquadah.

[Nimras]

Right this is annoying i anyone having ideas.

I have ideas all the time!!!!

The fact is whoever is brokering someone naq should not be the one to set the broker.

ingame it says this:
NOTE: If you are initiating a trade, and trading your goods for Naquadah and THE TRADE IS ACCEPTED, the Naquadah will be put into your bank - IF YOU HAVE ROOM!
If your bank is full, (or the trade expires), the amount is left 'in the open' (so if you have a full bank, it is advisable to be online at the time it is accepted). If you cannot hold the Naquadah in your bank, and cannot accept this risk, do not initiate a trade where you are trading Naquadah.

Right and let me try again:

Right in all the cases i explaine there is enough bank space for the transfers:

The bank space was not full in any case.

[RobinInDaHood]

Right this is annoying i anyone having ideas.

I have ideas all the time!!!!

The fact is whoever is brokering someone naq should not be the one to set the broker.

ingame it says this:
NOTE: If you are initiating a trade, and trading your goods for Naquadah and THE TRADE IS ACCEPTED, the Naquadah will be put into your bank - IF YOU HAVE ROOM!
If your bank is full, (or the trade expires), the amount is left 'in the open' (so if you have a full bank, it is advisable to be online at the time it is accepted). If you cannot hold the Naquadah in your bank, and cannot accept this risk, do not initiate a trade where you are trading Naquadah.

Right and let me try again:

Right in all the cases i explaine there is enough bank space for the transfers:

The bank space was not full in any case.

Colored red for emphasis. The auto-banking feature only works when you initiate the trade, not the other way around.

[Nimras]

Right this is annoying i anyone having ideas.

I have ideas all the time!!!!

The fact is whoever is brokering someone naq should not be the one to set the broker.

ingame it says this:
NOTE: If you are initiating a trade, and trading your goods for Naquadah and THE TRADE IS ACCEPTED, the Naquadah will be put into your bank - IF YOU HAVE ROOM!
If your bank is full, (or the trade expires), the amount is left 'in the open' (so if you have a full bank, it is advisable to be online at the time it is accepted). If you cannot hold the Naquadah in your bank, and cannot accept this risk, do not initiate a trade where you are trading Naquadah.

Right and let me try again:

Right in all the cases i explaine there is enough bank space for the transfers:

The bank space was not full in any case.

Colored red for emphasis. The auto-banking feature only works when you initiate the trade, not the other way around.

Well he initiated the trade with a broker saying here is my 1at and i want 657bill of yours bank was not full could contain 900bill at the time i accepted and yet it went in the open.

Now should we try to figure out why??

[RobinInDaHood]

Now should we try to figure out why??

I though I'd explained it. Let's try again:

If you initiate a trade with another player and that broker is accepted, any naq accepted in the broker will be automatically banked for you as long as you have available bank space. This was done because you cannot control when a broker that you initiated is accepted and cannot necessarily be online at the time.

On the reverse, if another player initiates a trade with you, THE FUNDS DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY BANK, whether or not you have available bank space. The rationale is certainly sound; that is, that since you're already online to accept the broker, you can (at the same time) bank the naq provided in the broker.

As an additional safeguard against naq being held in the open unexpectedly, Admin set up the broker system so that if a broker expires, you have 12? 24? hours to log in, notice the expired broker, and accept the goods before they drop out of broker and into the open.

From what you described, the broker system is working exactly as it should. You don't have to take my word for it. Have someone broker you for a small amount of naq, accept it, and see that it goes into the open. Send the same person a broker for naq, let them accept, and watch it hit your vault.

[Nimras]

Now should we try to figure out why??

I though I'd explained it. Let's try again:

If you initiate a trade with another player and that broker is accepted, any naq accepted in the broker will be automatically banked for you as long as you have available bank space. This was done because you cannot control when a broker that you initiated is accepted and cannot necessarily be online at the time.

On the reverse, if another player initiates a trade with you, THE FUNDS DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY BANK, whether or not you have available bank space. The rationale is certainly sound; that is, that since you're already online to accept the broker, you can (at the same time) bank the naq provided in the broker.

As an additional safeguard against naq being held in the open unexpectedly, Admin set up the broker system so that if a broker expires, you have 12? 24? hours to log in, notice the expired broker, and accept the goods before they drop out of broker and into the open.

From what you described, the broker system is working exactly as it should. You don't have to take my word for it. Have someone broker you for a small amount of naq, accept it, and see that it goes into the open. Send the same person a broker for naq, let them accept, and watch it hit your vault.

M8 he initiated the broker he asked for naq from me meaning when i accept it went to him.

I had just done a trade esactly like that the day before where the naq went to the bank nothing had change same way.

Okay maybe this explaine better:

I make a broker to "X" looking like this.

1AT will be given to "X" and i will get 730bill NAQ when he accept. I go to bed wake up he had accepted and 730bill was now in my bank.

now My friend "Y" did the same:

1AT will be given to ME and I will in return send 657bill NAQ to "Y" when i accept. This time they go to the open.

Same thing no different the dude making the broker is the one that will get the naq when the player he set the broker to accept. Why does it in my case go to bank and his not.

and i have even experinced it the other way around.

[The White Rider]

I just had this happen today actually. My bank was empty and I initiated a trade. I was to receive naq in return for UU.

When the trade was completed, all naq went in the open. None went to the bank.

[Nimras]

Yes this is annoying.

The bug is real my friend just for a second time lost NAQ because it went in the open when it clearly shouldnt.

When i said i did this without a hitch and then my friend done the same thing TWICE where it went in the open with enough space it is a problem.

Now stop telling me that this and that i know how it works i also know that it sometimes goes in bank other times dont when you do the esact same thing 100% so could we start working out why it dont react the same everytime??

[Nimras]

We now have 3 broker issues i am making them all in this topic for better handling:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=114875

im trying to ascend and brokering out isnt possible due to:

You fold to pressure from the galactic council in not providing this galaxy any more units since it has amassed so many that the galactic council considers it a threat to all galactic life to assist it to grow more. The maximum the council allows before stopping direct giving or trading of units is 156,986,301

the user that im brokering have 41mil army but I ve that msg for brokering 75 m uu
i tried with 50m and 25m uu itts the same
how im suppossed to ascend

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115110

Good day everyone.

So I had 35 mil army size, and I set up three brokers - each one for 1 mil UU in exchange for 760 bil for each mil.

So according to all logs he accepted all of them

but I only recieved 2 of those 3 millions. But he got the naq...

here are the logs:

Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Naquadah 11:24 Completed.

...

Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Naq is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save

My ID is 61500

I had 35 mil army it's now 37 and I had circa 85k-90k untrained and when he accepted the brokers, the amount was
Untrained 2,065,310

Never heard of this happening though

Best regards,
KJ

[S1eepy]

Must be related to the pausing of turns. In case it had been missed, the game has stopped ticking.

[Sphinx42]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115110

Good day everyone.

So I had 35 mil army size, and I set up three brokers - each one for 1 mil UU in exchange for 760 bil for each mil.

So according to all logs he accepted all of them

but I only recieved 2 of those 3 millions. But he got the naq...

here are the logs:

Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Naquadah 11:24 Completed.

...

Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Naq is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save

My ID is 61500

I had 35 mil army it's now 37 and I had circa 85k-90k untrained and when he accepted the brokers, the amount was
Untrained 2,065,310

Never heard of this happening though

Best regards,
KJ

Solved

[~Infinite Insanity~]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115110

Good day everyone.

So I had 35 mil army size, and I set up three brokers - each one for 1 mil UU in exchange for 760 bil for each mil.

So according to all logs he accepted all of them

but I only recieved 2 of those 3 millions. But he got the naq...

here are the logs:

Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Untrained 11:24 Completed.
Kjarkur Infinite Insanity™ 760,000,000,000 Naquadah 1,000,000 Naquadah 11:24 Completed.

...

Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Naq is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save
Kjarkur Kjarkur The trade broker reports trade from Kjarkur to Infinite Insanity™ of 760,000,000,000 Naq for 1,000,000 Untrained is complete. 11:25 reply delete save

My ID is 61500

I had 35 mil army it's now 37 and I had circa 85k-90k untrained and when he accepted the brokers, the amount was
Untrained 2,065,310

Never heard of this happening though

Best regards,
KJ

Solved

LMAO... never noticed that.

umm seem he owes me 1,000,000 NAQ. j/k you can keep it

[Nimras]

Lol but the other broker issues arent solved

[Seaborgium]

I though I'd explained it. Let's try again:

If you initiate a trade with another player and that broker is accepted, any naq accepted in the broker will be automatically banked for you as long as you have available bank space. This was done because you cannot control when a broker that you initiated is accepted and cannot necessarily be online at the time.

i have a small bank space - abotu 240B
yet when i did 1m UU for 750B it went to my bank
i took all naq out of my bank bc i am on ppt almost to ascend
did another trade the same way and that naq didn't get banked