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educating the masses and waking up the sheople.

1stly, i would have preferred a pure political board to have discussed this on but thats not likely to happen so this board will have to do.

2ndly, lets start by saying that none of this is a Theory, it stops being a theory when there is even the smallest shred of evidence. we are surrounded by evidence that our governments are waging a war against humanity and indeed its own citizens and yet people still call it a "Theory", it is NOT a "Theory" it is fact but lets just call it a hypotheses for the sake of argument...

for the past few years i've been doing a hell of ALLOT of research trying to get to the bottom of things and trying to understand why we go along with decisions our leaders make even when we know them to be wrong and in most cases are outright lies.

i am also becoming more and more troubled by the fact that when you tell most Americans that their leaders are liars (as well as all the other leaders of the world) should not be trusted and infact should stand trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity i am met with severe skepticism at best, in most cases i get the impression people don't care and down right hostility being the worst i've ever been confronted with when all i am trying to do is educate people to the FACT that their is a conspiracy to kill you, enslave you, rob you of all your God given rights, freedoms and possessions.

i had a convo with an American friend of mine,i would go as far as to call him a true patriot because he has and still does serve his country and would serve whenever he is called to do so, (i wont say who unless he makes it known himself) and i've spoken to him about this kind of thing a few times and i get the impression he doesn't believe the threat of the NWO is real and things will go on the way they are for MANY years to come when i know for a FACT that the global elite run by the international bankers are going to crash the dollar and take all cash/currency with it causing the biggest depression the world has ever seen and just like the great depression in the early 20th century when they dangled the solution to the great depression in the publics face and called it the federal reserve act, they will hand us the solution of the RFID chip in our faces (history repeats itself) and tell us that we MUST have this if we are to avoid another crash like this, but let me ask our American brothers and sisters this...how much inflation was there in the USA when Andrew Jackson killed the central bank and returned the power to print money back to the American people?

and for all those that don't know what i am talking about, the bank of england and the federal reserve in the USA are both private banks and indeed all central banks of every country are privately owned and NOT run by (or subject to) the governments of the world, which is why we have inflation/deflation in our currency's.

i also find it EXTREMELY disturbing (to say the least) that the armed forces (especially in America because they have a constitution that is meant to protect the American peoples rights) personnel of the world swear an oath to uphold the constitution from ALL threats both foreign and domestic (not sure of the British oath and constitution :oops: ) and yet the biggest threat to our sovereignty, freedoms, and constitutions are our own leaders.
please do not believe for 1 minute that a man wearing a turban with an AK 47 slung over his shoulder running around in the mountains of Pakistan was responsible for the 7/7, 9/11, Bali and Madrid bombings (to name but a few). why has no government in the western world reported the truth and told us that osama is actually dead and that he died in December 01??? yes the man is dead and it was reported in China, Japan and India that he had been killed at the end of 01.

the answer is obvious to those that have eyes to see, thats why we are not told and yet our armed forces are engaging in unlawful (and in Americas case) unconstitutional wars and by the actions of the armed forces are helping our leaders kill our freedoms and yet people are still blind to the threat this has against our right to exist without interference from government.

not a single shred of evidence has EVER been provided to the peoples of the world that osama bin laden, Afghanistan, the Taliban and Iraq were ever involved with ANY of the bombings above and yet they have all been wiped from existence...does anyone here know that George Bush Senior started a bombing campaign against iraq when he was president and that that campaign has been waged on the Iraqi civilian population for the past 13 years and that the bombs have been loaded with Americas depleted uranium stores and that Iraq's water table has been destroyed?

anyone??

you may say "but what can we do?" well my answer is this...i'm doing my bit by attending the global demonstration on july 4th in London and would love to see some of you guys attend and do your part as well and for non-brits to attend the demonstrations in your own country/city, and to those that live in a dream world i ask you why all of this is so hard to believe when they have been waging this war against us for the past 2 thousand years???
infact this war has been waging since before the days of Julius Caesar and even further back than the days of Christ. contrary to the modern historical record, Caesar was murdered because he took away the money changers (the gold smiths AKA, the modern day banker) ability to coin money and gave it back to the roman senate and the people. the ability to regulate the flow and circulation of money made Rome super rich which gave Caesar the power to order great building works thereby filtering the wealth of the Roman state down threw the people making all of Rome VERY prosperous which is why Caesar was so loved, it wasn't just his military conquests or his unifying of the empire, i mean, who cares what the army does as long they do it, what people really care about is their pocket and providing for their family...correct?

well the long and short of it is this...

we NEED to take back control of our money by shutting down the central bank in its current form and removing the control of money from the international banker, we also need to bring accountability back to our governments and hold ALL people that have held office in government (still alive) over the past 100 years to account.

the purpose of this post is to educate people to the threat that will over the next 4 maybe 5 years will become evident and to avoid the destruction of our sovereignty and right to exist, not to change the way you think, i'm not trying to brain wash anyone or start arguments so please post with common sense and put some thought into your replies...

thanks :)

P.S, this is for ALL Americans to look up, did you know that bush plans to merge the USA with Canada and Mexico into the north American union and replace the dollar with the Amero and destroy the US constitution? no?
i suggest you use Google ....

oh btw, didn't all you American service men and women swear to uphold and protect the constitution of the USA against ALL threats both foreign and domestic and if you guys let this happen wont you be breaking your oath and the law...just as Bush, Blair and Brown have done from day 1 in office??

power to the people is not just a saying.

food for thought for ya :wink:
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well......i really don't have time right now to do this, i have to go to work, but give me a few hours. I agree with some, but over all i don't see it as a master plan, but more of te "turning of the worm" so to speak of what America has stood for, and where it's going ( all western Goverments for that matter).
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Re: political debate.

and just for the record...

i hold the british and indeed every single government of the world in the same contempt as i do the current American government.

i'm not anti-American, far from from it i am anti-anyone who would threaten peace and a country's sovereignty and right to exist just as the western leaders have and all i ask is that the power to hold government and world leaders to account be returned to the people and for the police to enforce the law and STOP acting like the gestapo.
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Where to start.....

Julius Caesar was before christ, not after....

Not a shred of evidence that Osama Bin Laden was behind 9/11... yea that's rediculous. You may not be convinced of the evidence but that doesn't mean it's not there. There's video's of him claiming responsibility, along with a money trail conneecting him to the highjackers and a whole host of other pieces but let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story.

You can't have a dollar that isn't on float on the international money exchange and expect to have the living conditions you enjoy. Other countries won't want to invest in your country.

NWO - I'd rather not discus that - don't want them coming for me in my sleep along with the aliens and the people who invented velcro.

Bush can't disolve the constitution. At minimum it would take 2/3 of congress who at the moment are so hostile they won't let Bush pass a tomato seed let alone a disolution of the constitution.

If I've got some more time to waste later I'll come back to this.

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yep my bad, i worded it wrong, Caesar was before Christ, got bit carried away and read the damned thing a few times to make sure i got it right and weed out the spelling mistakes and still got that date wrong :?

moving on...what evidence has been provided? regardless of what the media has put out there has not been ANY evidence that osama carried out 9/11, and fyi this topic may hinge on 9/11 but it goes much deeper than that, 9/11 was a catalyst for other events but not the be all and end all of them.

money trail, you mean the filthy money that was funneled threw Pakistan's head of secret service (sorry forget the name of it and him) the same money trail that was'nt mentioned in the 9/11 commission report?


what other pieces of evidence, you mean the passport of the lead hijacker Mohamed Atta? the same passport that flew threw the inside of his jacket, threw the planes fuselage, flew threw a building, flew threw a fireball and landed on the street for someone to find? btw, why would a hijacker about to die need a passport on internal flight? :? or are you talking about the suitcase which conveniently baggage handlers forgot to load, or are you talking about the many Korans he lost all over the city? also, why would a Muslim about to die visit a strip bar and get totally hammered??

and as for bush not being able to dissolve the constitution...he didn't grant himself executive powers for nothing, if bush wanted to he could implement them at any time and order marshal law.

i have plenty time 8)


what gets me is (just as smoosh has proved) that people refuse to even think for themselves and look at the many official stories that just don't add up, and at least give it some thought that "Story's" like the above could be true. why wont you even entertain the possibility that events like 9/11 and 7/7 are false flag ops...ever heard of the USS Cole or The Bay of Tonkin incident?? the same incident that dragged the USA into Vietnam.
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[KMA]Avenger wrote:also, why would a Muslim about to die visit a strip bar and get totally hammered??

and as for bush not being able to dissolve the constitution...he didn't grant himself executive powers for nothing, if bush wanted to he implement them at any time and order marshal law.


If you were about to die what else would you do OTHER than get smashed and goto a strip bar, but that'd beside the point, I didn't know they did that. Osama has made video tapes claiming responsibility.

Bush doesn't have executive powers to disolve the constitutiion. But even if he could 'implement them at any time... if he wanted to' and he does indeed want to (as you claim) then why doesn't he?
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i know of the tapes, 1 was proved to have been made by an impostor, but the 1st tape was actually mistranslated...some would say deliberately so...

i'll try and find the source and post it.

tbh, i dont know why he hasn't but he does have the power to order marshal law...did you know that FEMA have been building concentration style camps?


OH, btw, while the fiasco of the aftermath of hurricane Katrina was going on do you guys know that the 2nd amendment to the constitution was suspended and the police were ORDERED to go round and collect peoples weapons? :shock:
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[KMA]Avenger wrote:also, why would a Muslim about to die visit a strip bar and get totally hammered??

and as for bush not being able to dissolve the constitution...he didn't grant himself executive powers for nothing, if bush wanted to he implement them at any time and order marshal law.


If you were about to die what else would you do OTHER than get smashed and goto a strip bar, but that'd beside the point, I didn't know they did that. Osama has made video tapes claiming responsibility.

Bush doesn't have executive powers to disolve the constitutiion. But even if he could 'implement them at any time... if he wanted to' and he does indeed want to (as you claim) then why doesn't he?

The constitution can be "suspended" by declaring martial law. However martial law can only be declared in a "state of emergency". Basically "9/11 pt 2" has to happen first before martial law can be declared.



[KMA]Avenger wrote:OH, btw, while the fiasco of the aftermath of hurricane Katrina was going on do you guys know that the 2nd amendment to the constitution was suspended and the police were ORDERED to go round and collect peoples weapons? :shock:

Sources please.


i saw it on a news clip online somewhere and in a clip i saw on youtube and read it somewhere as well. will post sources when i've found them again (lost my book marks recently :( ) but right now i have to take Mrs G shopping. be back soon.
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http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

u can watch this online, really opens ur eyes to all the lies. not just 9/11 but
religion and the control the media has.

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You should all visit Thailand - Think They Are the closest country in the world which is true to "Humanity". Kind open people who have a mindset to accept everyone for who they are whilst ensuring it does not harm another human being.

Ye a lot of people might disagree, but isn't it lovely to be able to speak positively about a country because you have witnessed first hand it's positives. - Anyways its an Opinion :)
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we can talk about 9/11 but i would prefer it was talked about with the global affect its had rather than as a subject on its own.

9/11, 7/7 were defo inside jobs the evidence for this is overwhelming if you know where to look, also why have FEMA published pamphlets with the twin towers in crosshairs?
why in 2000 did the USAF have a 100% intercept record when it came to planes straying off their flight paths, and in 2001 fail 4 times in 1 day, to say nothing of the fact that planes were diverted away from new york on so called training exercises, and they used the same MO in the UK for the 7/7 attacks as well. i will go on record and state as a FACT that bush, Blair and brown are out n out liars and have been lying about 9/11 and the resulting wars since well before day 1, but the symptoms of 9/11, 7/7 and all the other terrorist attacks have been manufactured by mi5/6, mosad, the CIA and the FBI (did you guys know that the CIA and NASA were in fact setup by ex-nazi's shipped to America under the protection of project paper clip?)

but the underlying problem is not our governments because they are just pawns, what you have to do to understand an even such as 9/11 is to see who profited from 9/11...

the mega corps, Larry Silverstein (who btw bought a 99 year lease on the TWC with just a few hundred million dollar down payment and gained 7 billion on a double insurance payout, i'll take odds like that every single day of the week and twice on sunday) gold went threw the roof so look at who controls the gold stocks of the world (and while your at it i would take a look at the American gold reserve which the fed has robbed the American people off as collateral for the national debt) the bush administration got a 2nd term out of the attacks as well because he was being shown the door, the banks have all made massive profits lending money to the USA for its pound of flesh in the mid east!

the list of who gained out of the attacks is endless but i'll tell you who didn't gain out of the attacks...osama bin laden didn't gain a thing, in fact he became the most hunted man in the world (and died for it even tho 3 days after the attack he made a statement saying he didnt plan or execute the attacks, even tho he was in full support of the attacks) so someone who is a billionaire cant be so stupid as to put the biggest bullseye in human history on his forehead, defo wasn't the taliban coz, well their all dead because they wouldn't give the Americans the pipeline they wanted to run down from the Caspian sea, Saddam sure wasn't planing that attack while he was shaking Rumsfelds hand or was he? could he have been that dumb? :?

i SERIOUSLY doubt it!!

anyways, the problems of the world go WAAAAY beyond 9/11 as we all know and we need to stop the madness of where it is we are going.

i simply cant understand how people fail to see the threat that is being posed to all our freedoms. its mind boggling to think that people swallow whats spoon fed to us, especially since Bush has been caught lying about 9/11 and the British have too short a memory to even remember the events of 7/7

my problem is that fact people are dieing for a lie, not just 9/11 but the lie that there isn't enough food in the world, did you guys know that world food production can feed over 13 billion people while africa and MANY parts of the world starve to death we're throwing food in the bin???

the only way to stop this madness is to take back control of our money, the world will be in a far better state than it is now if we did that.



question, if something is unconstitutional can that be classed as a DIRECT attack on the constitution and the peoples freedom?


btw, this is a great saying by Mark Twain...

"the only difference between the tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin."



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Hmmmmmmm, where to start. Well I really don't have much to say, but I will say this, You can't believe everything that is handed to you either in the media or on the net. Too many people wanting to paint someone as a scapegoat for all that is bad in the world, and guess what, that is exactly what the good old US of A has become. Now I won't say this country of ours is perfect, in fact far from it. Everyday there is something new to read or listen to that shows just how mucked up this country truly is. Whether it is the robbery of an old woman, or the molestation of a child.

The great melting pot has become one of the most unstable countries due to its open borders (no offence to those in foreign countries). We have let Joe Schmoe and his brothers in this country without really looking into their past. Its just, check INTERPOL and maybe the FBI wanted sheets, you aren't on them, well then, welcome to the US! Please choose the state of which you would like to set up shop. If the US is going to save itself from its own destruction and demise, then we need to close the borders, recall all of our troops, declare marshal law and get everything cleaned up and fix the economy, healthcare system, and job situation. Not elect someone that is the opposite party just because they think he will fix this country. Why not give someone a bandaid for a gunshot wound to the head? It just doesn't work. I say this as an American citizen and disabled veteran of Afghanistan, not as a foreigner, or someone that hasn't seen some of the horrors that do take place in this country.
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