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You miss the whole point. I had no clue who you are. I can't remember every average player after all.

You would be surprised what I know about TJP.

As for what Omegans think of others in FUALL, we don't think of them as cannon fodder or farms. Do we think of a few of them as disorganised? Yes. But that helps improve them.

FUALL was for the most part created from the ground up, except for a couple of exceptions. TJP is full of our enemies. Although to be really honest, the enemies are more like individuals in those alliances.

I don't need to resort to hearsay when Svarun clearly states tjp was created in response to FUALL.
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*khm* fuall is full of your enemies too heh *khm*


But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members. Thats pritty much obvious and we never hid anything. Equal an opposite reaction. You have enemies ETL? Thats cos you make people your enemies. Verry efficiently twisting their hand if I might add.

However TJP is also a fromalisation of longlasting good relations between the members, especially TLE and TA. In case you missed that one oh omnipotetnt one lol.

But hey, if you need to tell yourself otherwise so you can sleep go right ahaed:
TJP is just ad-hoc bunch up to kick you when you`re down and press the advatage but under the hood we have no bonds and just take/took any decent alliance/member willing to merge. We also kinda despise eachother and are together only to rule the game and once a section outlives its usefullness we`ll ditch it, rename and take a couple of fresh alliances onboard to maintain the numbers. And by "we" I ofc. meen TLE, d0h, were like, totally strinnging the other succers allong to be SGW top dogs hehe.
Unlike awsome ground up FUA.

(However, judging by the rate of members falling away, disagreements/statements on the forums, past records and painfull lessions.... you sure it`s not the other way around lol?) :P ;)
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LMAO @ ETL HAHAHAHA
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Dean_S wrote:LMAO @ ETL HAHAHAHA



I've never seen a more foolish post, considering you have run from the war and awaiting your buddy Metal to rejoin you.

Seriously, when posting, DO POST SOMETHING sensible, even if you are spewing your own propaganda.
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Brdavs wrote:*khm* fuall is full of your enemies too heh *khm*


But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members. Thats pritty much obvious and we never hid anything. Equal an opposite reaction. You have enemies ETL? Thats cos you make people your enemies. Verry efficiently twisting their hand if I might add.

However TJP is also a fromalisation of longlasting good relations between the members, especially TLE and TA. In case you missed that one oh omnipotetnt one lol.

But hey, if you need to tell yourself otherwise so you can sleep go right ahaed:
TJP is just ad-hoc bunch up to kick you when you`re down and press the advatage but under the hood we have no bonds and just take/took any decent alliance/member willing to merge. We also kinda despise eachother and are together only to rule the game and once a section outlives its usefullness we`ll ditch it, rename and take a couple of fresh alliances onboard to maintain the numbers. And by "we" I ofc. meen TLE, d0h, were like, totally strinnging the other succers allong to be SGW top dogs hehe.
Unlike awsome ground up FUA.

(However, judging by the rate of members falling away, disagreements/statements on the forums, past records and painfull lessions.... you sure it`s not the other way around lol?) :P ;)


lmao. it's all very well talking. Now feel free to post some facts.
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SSG EnterTheLion wrote:
Dean_S wrote:LMAO @ ETL HAHAHAHA



I've never seen a more foolish post, considering you have run from the war and awaiting your buddy Metal to rejoin you.

Seriously, when posting, DO POST SOMETHING sensible, even if you are spewing your own propaganda.


How can you judge runners when you let them into your own alliance enmass and most recently with DHM (whose fled more wars than anyone else i know). He'd even been kicked from your empire a good four times and still gets let right back in.

How can you judge someone posting like that when your brother in arms REK posts to a standard of that calibre enmass?

Then again, you were always one for selective nobility.
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Brdavs wrote:But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members.


Mmmmm...your funny.
Pretty sure there was a group of alliances that formed a relationship to take out TLE due to their actions amongst the game and They failed..


Now there is a group of allainces that are trying to take down The Fundamentally Unbreakable ALLiance.

Sorry but i dont see it working.
TJP and Co have a few warring alliances and the rest are not. Where FUALL are based around all warring alliances.
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Shornaal wrote:
Brdavs wrote:But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members.


Mmmmm...your funny.
Pretty sure there was a group of alliances that formed a relationship to take out TLE due to their actions amongst the game and They failed..


Now there is a group of allainces that are trying to take down The Fundamentally Unbreakable ALLiance.

Sorry but i dont see it working.
TJP and Co have a few warring alliances and the rest are not. Where FUALL are based around all warring alliances.


True, FUALL are based around warring alliances, that does not mean the calliber of player you have been adding of late are warriors. You can have all the powerful leaders you want, but when the troops can't fight, or fight well, then it is moot.

About TJP, many of its members have had long-standing relationships previous to this war. Remember that time a little over a year ago where alot of alliances formed a pact to bring down CoP? Oddly enough, some of the relationships made there are still around...shocking :roll:

Now was bringing TJP public a statement to FUALL saying you will have people who will stand up to you when the inevitable time came? Partly, but it was also just a more public announcement of a relationship which had been existing for quite some time.

I await more exciting posts from ETL...
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SSG EnterTheLion wrote:
Brdavs wrote:*khm* fuall is full of your enemies too heh *khm*


But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members. Thats pritty much obvious and we never hid anything. Equal an opposite reaction. You have enemies ETL? Thats cos you make people your enemies. Verry efficiently twisting their hand if I might add.

However TJP is also a fromalisation of longlasting good relations between the members, especially TLE and TA. In case you missed that one oh omnipotetnt one lol.

But hey, if you need to tell yourself otherwise so you can sleep go right ahaed:
TJP is just ad-hoc bunch up to kick you when you`re down and press the advatage but under the hood we have no bonds and just take/took any decent alliance/member willing to merge. We also kinda despise eachother and are together only to rule the game and once a section outlives its usefullness we`ll ditch it, rename and take a couple of fresh alliances onboard to maintain the numbers. And by "we" I ofc. meen TLE, d0h, were like, totally strinnging the other succers allong to be SGW top dogs hehe.
Unlike awsome ground up FUA.

(However, judging by the rate of members falling away, disagreements/statements on the forums, past records and painfull lessions.... you sure it`s not the other way around lol?) :P ;)


lmao. it's all very well talking. Now feel free to post some facts.


Facts? You want to argue about providing proof for notorious facts well known to all wh oplay sgw heh? Want me to provide facts to backup my claim that the world is round aswell?
You honestly believe ppl have 30sec memmories and that they`ve forgoten how things were like during the hay day of coalitions "led" by you, what heppened to certain ex member alliances and how they were treated, the comments about others who are still members today, the nonexistant recruiting standard for the sake of expanding beyond all logical boundries to satisfy a couple of ppls ambitions, all the mergers? That nobody noticed you lot dropping 60+ guys in month one? Etc. etc. etc.



Ppl say you overestimate and overhype yourself. Dunno why, maybe that "god" thing you keep roleplaying heh... I say they`re wrong. You`re a reasoneble guy, you know your limitations. It`s just that for some reason you choose take everyone else for complete fracking muppets lol.

But hey if you keep repeating it long enough... it... comes... true?

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Or maybe it doesnt and the muppets end up "fracking you up the janus" (as the RM sig puts it ever so elegantly heh).
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Shornaal wrote:
Brdavs wrote:But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members.


Mmmmm...your funny.
Pretty sure there was a group of alliances that formed a relationship to take out TLE due to their actions amongst the game and They failed..


Now there is a group of allainces that are trying to take down The Fundamentally Unbreakable ALLiance.

Sorry but i dont see it working.
TJP and Co have a few warring alliances and the rest are not. Where FUALL are based around all warring alliances.


Since we`re at war we`re all trying to "take out eachother" heh... But if memory serves well twas you lot trying to take out first (TL) then TLE and then TJP when it was created.... So I guess we`re trying to set you up to do a auto-takeout now heh... those timelines and semantics are a pesky thing, arent they lol...
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Severian wrote:
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:
Dean_S wrote:LMAO @ ETL HAHAHAHA



I've never seen a more foolish post, considering you have run from the war and awaiting your buddy Metal to rejoin you.

Seriously, when posting, DO POST SOMETHING sensible, even if you are spewing your own propaganda.


How can you judge runners when you let them into your own alliance enmass and most recently with DHM (whose fled more wars than anyone else i know). He'd even been kicked from your empire a good four times and still gets let right back in.

How can you judge someone posting like that when your brother in arms REK posts to a standard of that calibre enmass?

Then again, you were always one for selective nobility.



REK's posts make sense in their own way. Dean's is from way off base. As for DHM, well there are reasons for everything. lol And which runners have we invited into Omega?
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SSG EnterTheLion wrote:You miss the whole point. I had no clue who you are. I can't remember every average player after all.

You would be surprised what I know about TJP.

As for what Omegans think of others in FUALL, we don't think of them as cannon fodder or farms. Do we think of a few of them as disorganised? Yes. But that helps improve them.

FUALL was for the most part created from the ground up, except for a couple of exceptions. TJP is full of our enemies. Although to be really honest, the enemies are more like individuals in those alliances.

I don't need to resort to hearsay when Svarun clearly states tjp was created in response to FUALL.




Well, if you must talk about what Fuall's think of each other lol. I find it amusing that he accuses TLE of thinking of some as cannon fodder. When the reality is that I've heard several FUALL members, of HC and of course a former CO, complain about other members of FUALL..


IE...

I complain that a certain extortionist is let into FUALL, and they immediately thought it would be dde. (don't ask me why, I didn't lol).

Leadership of Alpha not allowed to make their own decision, so the CO departed.

Not to mention my high ranking spy in Pi. I find it very funny that he's put himself in an unwinnable position. Lucky for him, I won't betray him.



As for what you know about TLE Rhett. I would not be surprised if you knew far more then I. Mainly, because I have a very general idea of the tactics you employ. Such as breaking into and gaining other alliances forum access. Good tactics btw ;)



Look, personally, I loath all these pacts. One parties attempt and desire to dominate the entire server. Omega's been doing it for YEARS with the help of mainly DDE. All the others, are pretty much extra.


GA was good to go, but it also dominated. At least though, there were several reasonable alliances. Like the EPA, that could be reasoned with without rudeness and/or instant destruction.




For the most part, the bored older players at the top just sit up there and **Filtered**. They get bored, so they sit on the players at the bottom. Eventually though, they will leave and the game might recover to what it used to be.




Now can we please get this back on topic...and away from being a "war" thread. This is general, goto the proper section :P
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Brdavs wrote:
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:
Brdavs wrote:*khm* fuall is full of your enemies too heh *khm*


But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members. Thats pritty much obvious and we never hid anything. Equal an opposite reaction. You have enemies ETL? Thats cos you make people your enemies. Verry efficiently twisting their hand if I might add.

However TJP is also a fromalisation of longlasting good relations between the members, especially TLE and TA. In case you missed that one oh omnipotetnt one lol.

But hey, if you need to tell yourself otherwise so you can sleep go right ahaed:
TJP is just ad-hoc bunch up to kick you when you`re down and press the advatage but under the hood we have no bonds and just take/took any decent alliance/member willing to merge. We also kinda despise eachother and are together only to rule the game and once a section outlives its usefullness we`ll ditch it, rename and take a couple of fresh alliances onboard to maintain the numbers. And by "we" I ofc. meen TLE, d0h, were like, totally strinnging the other succers allong to be SGW top dogs hehe.
Unlike awsome ground up FUA.

(However, judging by the rate of members falling away, disagreements/statements on the forums, past records and painfull lessions.... you sure it`s not the other way around lol?) :P ;)


lmao. it's all very well talking. Now feel free to post some facts.


Facts? You want to argue about providing proof for notorious facts well known to all wh oplay sgw heh? Want me to provide facts to backup my claim that the world is round aswell?
You honestly believe ppl have 30sec memmories and that they`ve forgoten how things were like during the hay day of coalitions "led" by you, what heppened to certain ex member alliances and how they were treated, the comments about others who are still members today, the nonexistant recruiting standard for the sake of expanding beyond all logical boundries to satisfy a couple of ppls ambitions, all the mergers? That nobody noticed you lot dropping 60+ guys in month one? Etc. etc. etc.



Ppl say you overestimate and overhype yourself. Dunno why, maybe that "god" thing you keep roleplaying heh... I say they`re wrong. You`re a reasoneble guy, you know your limitations. It`s just that for some reason you choose take everyone else for complete fracking muppets lol.

But hey if you keep repeating it long enough... it... comes... true?

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Or maybe it doesnt and the muppets end up "fracking you up the janus" (as the RM sig puts it ever so elegantly heh).



Are u again going on about the EPA? If so get your facts straight, then come back to me. They were so intent on blaming Omega they got paranoid. When Acronon gave them access to our boards, there were no plans for war with them at all. It amuses me how people who were never on the GA's HC or in the conversations that took place seem to think they know what went on.

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No, I just had omegans telling me that EPA needed to go because there weren't enough farms..Your right though, I dont' know if they were HC.



Hensenshi was one of em, hmmm. I don't remember the rest, but there were others.


Now, let's please go back on topic :lol:
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Mathlord wrote:
Shornaal wrote:
Brdavs wrote:But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members.


Mmmmm...your funny.
Pretty sure there was a group of alliances that formed a relationship to take out TLE due to their actions amongst the game and They failed..


Now there is a group of allainces that are trying to take down The Fundamentally Unbreakable ALLiance.

Sorry but i dont see it working.
TJP and Co have a few warring alliances and the rest are not. Where FUALL are based around all warring alliances.


True, FUALL are based around warring alliances, that does not mean the calliber of player you have been adding of late are warriors. You can have all the powerful leaders you want, but when the troops can't fight, or fight well, then it is moot.

About TJP, many of its members have had long-standing relationships previous to this war. Remember that time a little over a year ago where alot of alliances formed a pact to bring down CoP? Oddly enough, some of the relationships made there are still around...shocking :roll:

Now was bringing TJP public a statement to FUALL saying you will have people who will stand up to you when the inevitable time came? Partly, but it was also just a more public announcement of a relationship which had been existing for quite some time.

I await more exciting posts from ETL...


Also true. I always find war is the best way to try out your new troops. Some are great, those wh0 are not leave or are kicked. (or at least thats how i operate)

In long extensive wars all new alliances are tested to their limits ulong with new members in those or existing alliances but the ones who are mostly tested are the smaller players from small alliances/training alliances etc. most small players just want to build their accounts up/get their ascensions done/are new to the game/are not used to this type of activity etc. So i do feel the main weakness to any "formation" (FUALL,TJP) are the small guys.
In my eyes TJP+co have more because its a wide collective of alliances and empires/families. Chuck a few alliances in with their training allainces as an example.

Yes there is a few alliances here that were on TL's side when they were at war with COP but also note there are quite alot that are not. bare in mind that whilst TL had a NAP with OE, DDE and DD they had their little power trip and ravaged the server. Not not everything is what it seams. due to that little power trip Zion was formed even if it was a bit slap dash and then disbanded.

I think bringing TJP to public was a beautiful idea for those who were not already aware. ;)

When DD disbanded TO was left in the open and got pounded by FUALL. Hence why they were up for joining your side. before they didnt get pounded by TL because of the NAP with DD. (i could be mistaken on a few details so shoot me)

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Shornaal wrote:
Brdavs wrote:But seriously, yes TJP was created as a response to fuall agression (actual & planned) against those who would be its induvidual members.


Mmmmm...your funny.
Pretty sure there was a group of alliances that formed a relationship to take out TLE due to their actions amongst the game and They failed..


Now there is a group of allainces that are trying to take down The Fundamentally Unbreakable ALLiance.

Sorry but i dont see it working.
TJP and Co have a few warring alliances and the rest are not. Where FUALL are based around all warring alliances.


Since we`re at war we`re all trying to "take out eachother" heh... But if memory serves well twas you lot trying to take out first (TL) then TLE and then TJP when it was created.... So I guess we`re trying to set you up to do a auto-takeout now heh... those timelines and semantics are a pesky thing, arent they lol...


Well its was either war or kiss and make up and turn into another COP(OE, DDE, TLE) and drench the sever in blood but hey what can ya do.

So guys we are doing the right thing egh? We are bring balance to the server by constantly being at your throat. :lol:
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