Psi Kiya Trist wrote:i'm still Ron Paul 08...
good for you Psi, and if i was an american i would defo be voting the same, Ron Paul all the way to the bank...the federal bank...if you catch my meaning
Empedocles wrote:I am open to whatever you wanna teach me man. I don't like McCain or Clinton or Obama, they just say what people wanna hear, what they think will get them elected, and everything they say is a huge load.....
I didn't shoot down what your saying, but it just sounded like your one of those conspiracy theory people who think that our government plotted and actually did plan the 9/11 attacks. If your not, then that's my bad.
Also, I HATE how people blame "Bush" for everything that is going wrong. I guess I don't have any real facts or anything to support that stance, but they all just jump on the Bush Hater bandwagon because he is the President. They think EVERYTHING that is going wrong HAS to be his fault, there is no possibility that it is just the times, or the situation, or anything else. Nope, its his fault.
I am NOT, one of those people that is just brainwashed by all the things that the media spits out, I do realize that it completely came across as that...
(RON PAUL '08)
sorry for the long post but this is no easy subject when your trying to make people think for themselves.
your wrong, i dont think 9/11 was an inside job, i'm convinced it was an inside job, as was 7/7 london bombings, madrid and bali and every other bombing since....
do you know what a false flag operation is?
if not i suggest you find out how Hitler got his dictatorial powers, i dont mean how he got to be chancellor, i mean how he became a dictator.
another classic false flag operation is how Dr. Mohammad Mosaddeq (prime minister of iran) and his government (which was pro-american) were taken down by a joint MI5 and CIA operation all because mossadeq privatized irans oil industry and told BP (british petroleum) that they couldnt have a monoply on irans oil.
another classic false flag operation is operation "northwoods" lyndon baines johnson sent the USS liberty into the east med for intell gathering during israels 6 day war and the ship was then attacked by israeli fighters and PT boats and the liberty's captain put out a call for assist from the carrier group stationed in the med.
the admiral for the carrier group sent out planes to assist the liberty and he received orders from Washington to recall the fighters. the admiral called the whitehouse in person to get confirmation of the order and was told by robert mcnamarra the orders were genuine, recall the fighters, the president then gets on the phone and says and i quote "i want that goddamn ship going to the bottom! no help recall the wings" end quote.
imagine being rear admiral Guise (i think thats how his name is spelt) begging the president to allow you you to go to the aid of an american vessel and being told to stand down
anyways, the liberty was under attack for 3 hours and the PT boats even strafed the life boats killing US sailors (strafing life boats is an international war crime) and continued sending messages to the 6th fleet requesting assistants, and the only reason the ship survived and limped to rescue was a russian ship picked up the distress call and went to investigate since the attack was happening 14 miles of israels coast and was in international waters.
when the russians turned up the israelis backed off because there was a witness to the attack.
even 1 of the israeli pilots refused to engage the liberty stating that the ship was flying a US flag and was an ally and he would not engage the ship, 3 times this pilot refused till finally the controller said he would be court martialled for failing to carry out orders.
the captain of the liberty was given a congressional medal of honor in secret and was told never to tell what happened under threat of imprisonment.
all this info is freely available because its all been declassified but its all true, they have tapes of the incident.
there are so many cases of false flag ops its unbelievable that people still swallow this crap!
9/11 happened and then we went to war for payback, i dont have a problem with payback if someone has wronged you and like the whole world, on 9/11 i was with america if they decided to bomb afghanistan and iraq into the stone age for what they had done that was fine by me...
but wait...didnt bush say that saddam and iraq didnt have anything to do with 9/11?
then why the hell go there, why send young men and women to die in some god forsaken desert?? oh thats right, saddam was spending the cash he was getting from the CIA on WMD's and he was a threat...yeah right, do me a favor!?
we now know why we went in, but its fact that bush and blair used 9/11 to go into iraq and destroy a nation and plunder their resources.
thats betrayal of the highest order in my book.
btw, you may also like to know that bin laden is NOT wanted for the events of 9/11, just go onto the FBI's 10 most wanted list and you might be surprised to see that on the list of charges 9/11 is NOT listed, if bin laden and al qaeda didn't carry out the events of 9/11 then who did, why has no one been brought to justice for the events, why did bush limit the budget for the 9/11 investigations and wouldn't testify under oath before the 9/11 comity???
we all keep saying that 3000 people died on that terrible day but we all forget to mention that over 50,000 9/11 rescuers we're there on and after the day and they are now dropping like fly's from all kinds of respiratory illnesses and no one seems to care or even provide congressional money for health care for these heroes...they have plenty to spare for war tho!?!?
we've gone off topic with this discussion, so if you want to continue i suggest we do it via PM or another topic
