Terrorists, real or not?

[[KMA]Avenger]

Well atleast your not a hypocrite, or wait you ARE!!!

What makes you think that the stuff your being fed isn't just as fake and a buncha (Insert words here) just like the stuff YOU THINK that I am "being fed", when really you know nothing about me. So do not act as if you do.

This is slightly off topic now so, I am done posting here, have fun

look done or not, i have given you evidence that the news can be fabricated without any checks or balances and with no repercussions, all you have given me is words and assumptions based on a lack of education.

i'm done also!

[Thriller]

This thread should have died, You paranoid big brother people need to get over yourselves. And Avenger just because you have seen a few documentaries you think you are knowledgeable about Muslim history, American history or any history. Your not even up to date on current affairs. I have already outlined in my previous post(s) briefly how the war was mishandled. NOW DIE THREAD DIE. and maybe a few of you will start doing some actual research and learning some actual history and stop being spoon fed by the media and basing your judgments off of what chicken little is telling you.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i laugh at the mainstream media

and yes i do know my history

[Demeisen]

you laughing at mainstream media explains some things. i suppose you get your info from the devon and cornwall times. . .

@cloak: the uk made Zimbabwe what it WAS. the british empire built mad ammounts of infrastructure in its terroritories. british law is the basis of the sensible world.
Zimbabwe seems to be doing great without us. getting rid of farmers (mostly easy white targets) who know modern agriculture techniques was real clever. a country that used to export food now has mass shortages. ridiculous inflation aswel. democracy there is a joke with constant abuse of human rights. yes the uk harmed Zimbabwe a lot


saddam conducted genocide with weapons of mass destruction against some of his own people. he warred with iran. he invaded his neighbours. yeh there was clearly no need to do something about him.


btw your 9/11 theories no longer concern me. believe what you want. hopefully evolution will take care of you eventually

[[KMA]Avenger]

saddam conducted genocide with weapons of mass destruction against some of his own people. he warred with iran. he invaded his neighbors. yeh there was clearly no need to do something about him.

maybe donald rumsfeld and the cia shouldnt have financed and urged him to invade his neighbors then...


are you referring to the WMD's that have NOT been found or do you know something about saddam and his fabled WMD's we don't?

[Colton]

meh makes no differance to me mate. jus getting my point across as best i can at 5am.

i request that admin lock/delete this thread. it has no revelance or sense to it

We are in the SPAM Temple, things don't need to make sense LOL


As of now I have read every post on this thread and find the differing points of view very verrry interesting ^_^
So now kids, today we have learned that you should live in CANADA LOLOLOL


just kidding But not really LOL

EDIT: Apparently this thread is in debate central, I'm almost sure it was in the spam temple when I first posted in here >_>

[Colton]

I think we should have a poll lol, I vote terrorists are real >_<

[[KMA]Avenger]

they are real because they were funded and trained then worked for the CIA, so that makes the CIA (which btw, the CIA was the brain child of a Nazi taken to america under project paperclip) the biggest terrorists of the lot!

[semper]

they might not be real.

goes has a look at a few things...

well by definition terrorist DO exist. In fact, by definition America and the UK are terrorist's. I mean its a bit far..but...the SAS, the marines..you can keep going, the government.

All of the above.

The question now...as the language is insufficient. Is how far do we have to go to draw the line of what a terrorist is exactly. Then that's changing a recognised definition to accomodate our own arrogance?

i dont know. Depends on the sacrifice one is willing to make.
Its all subjective now..lol.

[Demeisen]

saddam used chemical weapons against 40 Kurdish villages. here are the effects of the weapons employed:
Death by asphyxiation
Skin burns and blisters
Impaired vision, blindness
Breathing difficulty, respiratory shutdown
Vomiting, diarrhea, digestive shutdown
Neurological disorder
Convulsions, coma

yes they are horrible and yes they are WMD.

Apparently this thread is in debate central, I'm almost sure it was in the spam temple when I first posted in here

thats understandable. i'd think the same after reading some of the claims here. i vote Colton for president. we could have a vote but my pal kma doesnt believe in democracy.

terrorists do exist. its obvious that you (kma and fellow theorists) terrorise logic and sense at all oppourtunitys. reason fears you.

[[KMA]Avenger]

no i do not believe in democracy because i do not want to live in a society where 51% of the population holds sway over the other 49%....think about that REAL careful before you post again.

[Demeisen]

you have a problem with the majority deciding what to do? from this i infer that you want the minority to decide what to do.

i bet you are the annoying person in any group that goes out. like if theres 6 of you and you all vote on what to do. if the other 5 vote for the cinema and you vote for mcdonalds, you would expect to get your way. . .

i know a guy who reminds me of you. he stands in the street screaming that satan is among us. quite funny actually. he is a crossdresser aswel. always a good laugh hearing his sermons. peaceout

[Demeisen]

recieved via forum pm from [kma]avenger after requesting that he not send me any more pms it seems he is trying to irritate me into a debate on his PERSONAL beliefs. keep your conspiracies to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

i no longer care. <- [ F U L L S T O P ]

if you cease pms i will be happy and consider this closed. im not a potential convert. thankyou

i've been asked by semper not to reply to you on the forum but since you are incapable of reading what i write when i say "think about that REAL careful before you post again" i'll explain it to you in a way you might possibly understand....

in a democracy, 51% of the population has the power to take away the rights and wants of the other 49% BUT, in a free republic NO ONE has that authority and you can request a trial by your peers where the only power in a court room is the power of the jury and NOT the power of a prosecutor and definitely not the judge...
in short, it only takes 1 juror sitting in a jury of 12 to be informed enough so that the other 11 can then be informed so justice is done and no ones right is infringed upon.

jury instruction by a judge and plea bargaining with a prosecutor is the lowest form of infringement of your civil and inalienable rights by the government on a person where in fact the government is there to serve the people (not the other way round) and protect there rights...

how many miscarriages of justice, murders at the hands of government, false imprisonment and other atrocity's carried out by governments and courts have there been over the years?

to many to count!

a judge is only there as a referee and should NOT have the power to judge you because he is an agent of the government and as such is biased towards the state where in fact the state is below the people and the only law above the people and the law they live by is the law of God...

that is a truly free society where everyone has rights which cannot be infringed upon by any branch of government...


get it?

[Thriller]

a judge is not an agent of the government he is part of the judiciary branch of the government. Separate from house of representatives and the executive branch... the decisions made by the supreme court do not have to be in line with the executive or houses agenda. They must merely be a fair interpretation of the law for the situation. LAWs passed by the executive or house branches can later be overturned by the courts and vise versa; individuals can be pardoned by house or executive branches. The bottom line is there are checks and balances in place to prevent to much power from being in the hands of a few. Since these are protected by both American and European constitution/bill of rights, they will always remain as long as we still have some active and well informed citizens alive (avenger is excluded here). Yes the government has a lot of power but we have chosen to give it to them (democracy) and it worked out pretty well so far.

I guess avenger never attended his civics classes...

[[KMA]Avenger]

a judge is not an agent of the government he is part of the judiciary branch of the government. Separate from house of representatives and the executive branch... the decisions made the supreme court to not have to be inline with the executive or houses agenda. They must merely be a fair interpretation of the law for the situation. LAWs passed by the executive or house branches can be later be overturned by the courts and vise versa; individuals can be pardoned by house or executive branches. The bottom line is there are checks and balances in place to prevent to much power from being in the hands of a few. Since these are protected by both American and European constitution/bill of rights they will always remain as long as me still have some active and well informed citizens alive (avenger is excluded here). Yeas the government has a lot of power but we have chosen to give it to them (democracy) and it worked out pretty well so far.

I guess avenger never attended his civics classes...

want me to prove what i say is true or are you as closed minded as liquid, if your open to me proving it then i can show you but if you would prefer i didnt then say so and i'll never bother you again...

interested?

BTW, i never attended civics class coz i'm a brit