Ok well here's a few things that are well known.
1) You don't need to bother about getting descended
2) Fleets give 500k power for 5-6 mil cost (compared to 1 mil power for 22 mil cost)
3) Your weapons suck and get more easily massed
4) ms techs are cheaper by a factor of 10
5) You have some uber neat techs the ascended guys don't have
And here's the funniest thing
You can actually double your income instantly by changing back to goauld.
Some are aware of this feature but since i'm a very nice person i figured it'd be nice to share it with everyone, afterall this feature has existed so long in this game it's obviously part of the gameplay for some.
A small jump to the dev server shows the following
when goauld:
Turn Income Production: 5,431,962,083 Naquadah (in 7 minutes)
when tauri:
Turn Income Production: 2,172,784,833 Naquadah (in 12 minutes)
when lg+1:
Turn Income Production: 2,824,620,283 Naquadah (in 12 minutes)
Miners(Lifers) 24,446,274 (20,520,615)
The benefits of BECOMING unascended
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Your weapons are crap, you loose blessing, and you need many more weapons/troops to get same total power, and can get educated, because you need alot more for same def/strike.
But you can take advantage of MS techs extra power given
But you can take advantage of MS techs extra power given




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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
disagree with you. un-ascended accounts need more units to get the same level of stat that ascended accounts with fewer units have.
for example, the weapons power alone is double for ascended.
for example, the weapons power alone is double for ascended.

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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
250 mil miners on AG account no commander ads turned on = 29.8 bil turn income
250 mil miners on snakehead account no commander ads turned on = 55.5 bil turn income
I think that covers extra losses
250 mil miners on snakehead account no commander ads turned on = 55.5 bil turn income
I think that covers extra losses
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
thanks Uro!
if memory serves me well, that guy hellboy was quite fond of this feature
if memory serves me well, that guy hellboy was quite fond of this feature
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
urogard wrote:250 mil miners on AG account no commander ads turned on = 29.8 bil turn income
250 mil miners on snakehead account no commander ads turned on = 55.5 bil turn income
I think that covers extra losses
that's because its a snakehead. snakeheads get income bonus. if you don;t want to play a snakehead, then you're better off playing an ascended account.

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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
oh yeah that doubled income is enough. Snakeheads get 25% income, not double. Unless you are now keeping your ascended bonus plus the normal goa'uld income boost.
LOL the 'educators' should be too busy in that little war to go around massing randoms... or are they expanding their push for extortion naq?
This certainly seems like there is something calc'ing a little bit wrong somewhere.
LOL the 'educators' should be too busy in that little war to go around massing randoms... or are they expanding their push for extortion naq?
This certainly seems like there is something calc'ing a little bit wrong somewhere.
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The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!
The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!
The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
weilandsmith wrote:that's because its a snakehead. snakeheads get income bonus. if you don;t want to play a snakehead, then you're better off playing an ascended account.
What you failed to realize that in this case instead of 80*1.25 your income is actually 80*1.25*2
And if it's normal why don't you receive the 2 multiplier the moment you register
And in case you haven't noticed
Snakehead = 25% income boost
AG = 34% incoem boost
but goauld still has way much more income for some odd reason rofl
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
weilandsmith wrote:ermmm... where'd the *2 come from?
do i look like i have access to the code?
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
do you think that the 25% increase also takes into account income from planets? if so, maybe planets can be blamed for the extra income factor here.

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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Ok, you failed to realize this isn't a discussion about how the feature is created (you can login to dev server and try it for yourself.)
And most likely all the income you get from planets gets doubled too although i can't check since i don't have any.
This is a discussion where i tell people that if they want they can instantly double their incomes without being accused of cheating
And most likely all the income you get from planets gets doubled too although i can't check since i don't have any.
This is a discussion where i tell people that if they want they can instantly double their incomes without being accused of cheating
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
k, time to stand up for my race cos i wanna mass somethin... next person to make a referace to a goauld as a "snakehead" i mass, if they aint in server war...
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[5:26:57 AM ] josh: 30% of 100 is 33.3333333333333
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Seems like a massive bug to me, Admin fix please.
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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
12agnar0k wrote:Seems like a massive bug to me, Admin fix please.
It's been around for ages
and with ages i mean for over a year and a half
this isn't anythign new
and admin knows about it for a very long time too
