vultures

[zeekomkommer]

okey i was farming today when sudenly i got a pm saying i was a vulture in a war and will be placed n the vulture list. so i go and check the alliance and i've never ever heard of em. go and see in the GC and there is no war thread.

so my question is: is it okey to be labaled a vulture when there is no war thread ?

[Juliette]

You just got owned by some.. well.. who were they anyway?


Whatever.. being a vulture is good for you, so what's the problem?
Sure, you might annoy a few people, but whoever said war was for the faint-hearted is a fool. Play high-risk, high-stakes.





Zeek; you obviously did not get owned, due to their being unknown.
Who were they?

[thicks]

Zeeky - In fact all of SGW knows about me and my Vulture lists.

The rules I abided to when making a Vulture list were the following:-

1) War must be declared on SGW Forum
2) Vulture must not be related to either alliance
3) One hit while in war - gets you penciled into the list - Two hits you are on it for good.
4) Always allow a way for the 'Vulture' to be removed - sometimes I massed them before putting them on the list.

Thicks

[bebita]

vulture
depends on alliance terms and imagination of someone

[deni]

I do not liek the term vulture at all.

Just like I expect to be hit, everyone should expect to be hit aswell especially considering the nature of the game.

So I do the only reasonable thing and hit back, no matter if you are in a war or not. Being in war is also no excuse of having no defense either. If you have that much naq out that would make a hit profitable for farmers, then you are apparently in no real war, as you would be hit for even smaller amounts in that case.

[Clarkey]

okey i was farming today when sudenly i got a pm saying i was a vulture in a war and will be placed n the vulture list. so i go and check the alliance and i've never ever heard of em. go and see in the GC and there is no war thread.

so my question is: is it okey to be labaled a vulture when there is no war thread ?

Is it ok to be labelled a vulture when there's no war thread?........ yeah why not, not everyone uses forums.

Besides, there are some people that have been added to vulture lists and massed because they have apparently "vultured" an alliance in war even tho the person doing it doesn't use the forums, but the alliance at war doesn't care about that.

So my answer is yes.

[Wolf359]

No - anybody who labels anybody else a vulture needs to grow up!

If they don't want to be attacked, then they should keep a defence - if they don't want people to attack them when they're in a war, then they should also not attack anyone else not in the war (and if they do should not subsequently moan about it when they're attacked - which I'd say is the category that the vast majority of 'vulture' moaners fall into!) - but they don't, so it's a massive double standard.

People also need to realise that not everyone pays attention to what goes on in the forums - some people never have, others do so less than they used to because there is 1000% more crap in the forum than there used to be.

Unfortunately the game has evolved this way because of moaning whiners who want everything given to them on a plate, rather than having to actually work at it. It's funny that when the game was more difficult, people never used to moan about 'vultures' when they were in a war - not because they weren't attacked by other people, because they were - but mainly because you couldn't just drop your defence immediately, and so people weren't seen as taking advantage.

You also need to remember that a lot of these supposed 'vultures' are simply people taking the opportunity to get their own back because of being constantly attacked/farmed by 'vulture moaners' previously. Sometimes the only time they can get their own back is when the moaners drop all their defence in a war.

Too much of a song and dance is made about it. Anyone who calls anybody else a 'vulture' ad shouts about it needs to 'man-up' in my opinion - I'd have a lot more respect for them if they simply said nothing and quietly took their revenge further down the line.

Meh.

[Cole]

Well sometimes people cry vulturing on them and farm people in another war, and if they are hit back by those people, they keep crying vulturing while they did the exact same, vulturing. That's why vulturing concept is quite wrong, as long as it's not turn farming or close to it by outside people of war, it's ok and doesn't need to be considered as vulturing.
And I'm sure those people can come up with a handful lot of excuses to justify themselves.

[Chris M]

Zeeky - In fact all of SGW knows about me and my Vulture lists.

Who are you? And more to the point who cares.

Vulture is a pathetic term used by those who are being attack whilst in a weakened state, which is fair play in a war game i would think

[Azarak]

I do not liek the term vulture at all.

Just like I expect to be hit, everyone should expect to be hit aswell especially considering the nature of the game.

So I do the only reasonable thing and hit back, no matter if you are in a war or not. Being in war is also no excuse of having no defense either. If you have that much naq out that would make a hit profitable for farmers, then you are apparently in no real war, as you would be hit for even smaller amounts in that case.

Well put. Could not agree anymore on this.

If you are in a war and get hit by someone out of it then so be it - if you want to hit them or mass them back then good on you but do not cry vulture and add to some "list".

Just because you are in a war does not give you this little bubble that protects you from attacks by anyone else. If you think that then it is quite laughable.

If you do not have the def (if your opponent/s is any good you should not have one) to protect the naq you have out then it should be taken.

The term vulture is used a lot and in many cases by people who likely don't even know what it means not that they actually exist anyway.

Following on with what Clarkey said I guess anyone can label anyone else whatever they want including 'a vulture'. Is there a difference between this and labeling someone as a noob? Not really no - Is there any grounds behind doing this? No there is not as it is just what one person/group of people think and lets face it everyone thinks differnt things.

[Rocky]

No - anybody who labels anybody else a vulture needs to grow up!

If they don't want to be attacked, then they should keep a defence - if they don't want people to attack them when they're in a war, then they should also not attack anyone else not in the war (and if they do should not subsequently moan about it when they're attacked - which I'd say is the category that the vast majority of 'vulture' moaners fall into!) - but they don't, so it's a massive double standard.

People also need to realise that not everyone pays attention to what goes on in the forums - some people never have, others do so less than they used to because there is 1000% more crap in the forum than there used to be.

Unfortunately the game has evolved this way because of moaning whiners who want everything given to them on a plate, rather than having to actually work at it. It's funny that when the game was more difficult, people never used to moan about 'vultures' when they were in a war - not because they weren't attacked by other people, because they were - but mainly because you couldn't just drop your defence immediately, and so people weren't seen as taking advantage.

You also need to remember that a lot of these supposed 'vultures' are simply people taking the opportunity to get their own back because of being constantly attacked/farmed by 'vulture moaners' previously. Sometimes the only time they can get their own back is when the moaners drop all their defence in a war.

Too much of a song and dance is made about it. Anyone who calls anybody else a 'vulture' ad shouts about it needs to 'man-up' in my opinion - I'd have a lot more respect for them if they simply said nothing and quietly took their revenge further down the line.

Meh.

i agree with wolf's rant here

if you just mass them back you can have your revenge, simple!!, why bother whinging like a baby, and labelling someone a vulture, unless of course you need help from your CO/alliance. so ye, its weak too as well as childish.

[ƒëmmë ƒatalë]

Anyone could claim they are in a war and cry vulture when you hit them if its not posted on forum.

But I also think the term is over used or used in the wrong context.

[zeekomkommer]

it's a realy small alliance their biggest member has like 1/10th of my size. just found it weird that i was called a vulture for an unknown war

i'm not upset about it cuz hey what can they do

[Azarak]

it's a realy small alliance their biggest member has like 1/10th of my size. just found it weird that i was called a vulture for an unknown war

i'm not upset about it cuz hey what can they do

LOL really does not surprise me - the craze caught on long ago and now lots of alliances (including very small ones) use it.

It is very silly especially for small players to claim it against ones much bigger and more experienced - If they want to hit back good on them shows they have guts. If they are actually in a war anyway they likely will not have much to lose. If they really are small then the majority of larger players are not going to want to pick on them to the point where the game is not fun for them anyway.

[fremen]

Too much of a song and dance is made about it. Anyone who calls anybody else a 'vulture' ad shouts about it needs to 'man-up' in my opinion - I'd have a lot more respect for them if they simply said nothing and quietly took their revenge further down the line.

This is why I missed you while you were gone. I think vulture lists are amusing, which is probably a good thing as I am on most of them.