Prolem with Jack AKA Robot Nixon

[Kit-Fox]

As stated here is my thread in the obudsmans corner

Guess Kit-Fox chose ignorance.

is the statement that Jack made in the Obama wins thread in this&that, he chose to make a personal insult, knowing full well he could have chosen many different way to say it and has continued to insist i am ignorant. now thats insulting and rude.

i guess i'm looking for some kind of warning for Jack about it after all a Mod should have no excuse for such behaviour as they are expected to uphold the rules of the forum. they cant do that if they break the rules themselves

[pianomutt20000]

1. I need more details, because it depends on the context.
2. I am not a mod, I do not issue warnings.



However, if I judge that it deserves attention. It will receive it. So provide a link next time


Bill

[Kit-Fox]

linky asked for, linky provided

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=128965&start=75

starts on this page (page 6 of teh thread that is).

And implying someone choose ignorance is calling them ignorant, however Jack tries to dress it up and is rather rude and insulting.

rather against the forum rules

[semper]

You will probably run into that word a lot on these forums. Especially if you even encounter me in a debate or argument.

I dont think an official complaint is appropriate.

Each to their own though....

(btw... Hi bill..)

[Kit-Fox]

Calling a person ignorant or saying someone chooses ignorance (its really the same thing) is an insult, worse still Jack made it personal by the mention of my name.

Cleary a breach of the rules as stated, mods arent above them

EDIT: certainly i was a tad stupid to skim the then last page and reply assuming jack was serious (really should have known better) but then he didnt need be so aggresive either

[Tacet]

I agree with semper. Being ignorant can mean untutored, unlearned, illiterate, or just having a lack of knowledge in a certain field. I am totally ignorant as to political sciences, whereas I am knowledgeable in EM and antennae design. I can't really see the insult in that.

Now to ask - are normal users allowed to post their opinions in threads in the Ombudsman's section? If not, please forgive my, sorry for the pun, ignorance!

[Pai Mei]

I have seen, I have heard, I have read....I have wasted my time.


For against the rules it is not, to speak wisdom and truth.


To seek wisdom and guidence, you should explore the past.
From this, and only this, can you embrace the truth.

Without the blanket of heavenly protection provided by America,
Europe would have had to maintain massive armies during the cold war.

America has also brought back to life European countries from the very ash of Germany inflicted extinction.


If the bounty of American military prescense had not shielded Europe from possible agression, the expenditure of maintaining a sizable military force would have prevented the rapid economic expansion and growth that had put both the EU and the Euro in a position of strength.

It is amazing though, that such countries seek not to support their very saviors, and thus instead claim that they stand alone.


For those seeking wisdom, open your ears and widen your eyes.

WWI
WWII
Vietnam (France was there first)
Cold War


Also, the last time Spain and the US fought. There was a total of 1 US military death.



Wisdom comes from facts. Folly comes from prideful lies. Do not fall into Temptation, and instead walk towards the light.


See the light.



Pai Mei

[pianomutt20000]

Pai Mei is correct, the complaint is not valid because the statement was true.

I recommend studying history before you make false statements.



If for some god awful reason Russia decided to invade Europe, and the usa didn't do anything...They'd be speaking Russian in Paris.



Sad and Sorry truth.


Bill

[pianomutt20000]

Also, I tend to be lenient in regards to opinions unless they get out of control.


Bill

[semper]

I have seen, I have heard, I have read....I have wasted my time.


For against the rules it is not, to speak wisdom and truth.


To seek wisdom and guidence, you should explore the past.
From this, and only this, can you embrace the truth.

Without the blanket of heavenly protection provided by America,
Europe would have had to maintain massive armies during the cold war.

America has also brought back to life European countries from the very ash of Germany inflicted extinction.


If the bounty of American military prescense had not shielded Europe from possible agression, the expenditure of maintaining a sizable military force would have prevented the rapid economic expansion and growth that had put both the EU and the Euro in a position of strength.

It is amazing though, that such countries seek not to support their very saviors, and thus instead claim that they stand alone.


For those seeking wisdom, open your ears and widen your eyes.

WWI
WWII
Vietnam (France was there first)
Cold War


Also, the last time Spain and the US fought. There was a total of 1 US military death.



Wisdom comes from facts. Folly comes from prideful lies. Do not fall into Temptation, and instead walk towards the light.


See the light.



Pai Mei

There is about as much wisdom in your post as their is in the mind of a four month year old child. Someone who claims wisdom would not speak facts in twisted manners as you have, no seek to try and vomit a ton of what appears to be horribly subjective american propaganda, for a reason I cannot ascertain.

EDIT: As you have just very clearly demonstrated, history can be very much misinterpreted and told. So, you have....disproven bill's point, when he intended to use it to make his point.

Stupid americans...the most annoying posters on the forums. Though if memory serves...arnt you english? Or asian...im not sure..but I think you do live in england, if you are who I think you are.

lol...I say walk towards the light...ignore pai mei....

Bill is that *points to quote* not far out of place and control?

[Kit-Fox]

Does no one read anymore? I never said we stood alone, i said that america alone cannot take the credit for defend the Eu as it didnt, not on its own not entirely by itself. which is true.

calling me ignorant for replying half cocked isnt really appropiate, especially not for a mod who should be held to a higher standard than other users because of their position.

So i replied on instict that it was another US is great post and we see them a lot of the time and for the most part the ppl posting them believe it. thats not a stereotype thats accumulated experience

[semper]

Does no one read anymore? I never said we stood alone, i said that america alone cannot take the credit for defend the Eu as it didnt, not on its own not entirely by itself. which is true.

I wouldnt go there.

They are trying to be clever, but have messed up.

[pianomutt20000]

Meh, I am of the opinion that Europe doesn't stand alone...and I think they should.


Frankly, it would help our economy if we pulled all our forces out of Europe, Korea, and other random places.

Historically, in the last 100 years, there isn't a good track record for Europe. Also, people from Europe tend to sterotype
Americans for various reasons.


I myself voted for Obama.

I personally think he is not Qualified, because of his experience.

McCain, was experience but his VP was retarded. (sorry, hot but retarded).

So, I took a gamble.


Most of the reservations in regards to Obama have nothing to do with Race.
If Colon Powell had run, he would have slaughtered Obama.


But Europeans shouldn't make stupid, ignorant remarks and not expect to be called on em.

I don't do it to your politics, don't do it to mine.

Bill

[Kit-Fox]

Fine, back patting of the highest standard.

lets just see what happens shall we?

[Pai Mei]

Ah yes, accused of propaganda.


A wise man would look at history.


If I am mistaken in my wisdom, please show me where.


Then I can re-examine my reasoning, and gain new wisdom.



But speaking against, with nothing to back it up...That is not wisdom, that is the iraqi information minister.



Pai Mei