Homosexual Marraige

[Juliette]

i say we stick all gays in the desert where there is plenty of room for them to do as they please and make their own laws as to what they can and cannot do with regards to marriage and adoption.
we then stick an electrified 200 foot fence around said desert with automated 50 cal gun emplacements.
in such an environment they can do as they please and leave us alone, they would be happy and we would be happy...

everybody is happy, but till such a thing actually happens, they live in a heterosexually dominated world and therefor abide by our laws and tolerances or lack thereof., there's always the desert if they don't like it!

Aside from the actual implementation, that sounds like an interesting idea.
You do realise that adoption is highly unlikely inside such a non-reproductive facility?

Point of interest for those so violently against this idea: after one generation, *all* will have passed away but those adapted to the actual society instead of their own subculture. It's only a good thing. Those who have adapted can then go for real rights, instead of the twisted form they now crave so violently.

[_willie_]

marraige is between a man and a woman. those who swing another way can always enter into a civil partnership, which is marraige in all but name right?

gay couples shouldnt be allowed to adopt. at least not in this time.

imagine what it would be like for a child to go to their 1st day at secondary school with their two gay dads (wearing daffyd style clothes of course). that kid would get mocked back to 1984. fact.

maybe in the future where same sex parents wont draw as much notice/insults/attention it will be ok. that would need to be in a more tolerent and therefore better society. but not yet. its not fair on the child.

theres also the major importance of both a male and female role model for children.


btw i am in no way opposed to lesbians. infact i encourage people to wear comfortable shoes. but still no marraige/adoption yet. . . yet


oh and thats a good idea from mystake about being unioned.

Im going to have to disagree this could be a good thing as what doesn kill you makes you stronger. when i has in High school i was ridiculed for having very bad acne. when that happens it teaches a person how to take a blow to your ego and move on. currently I am out spoken and excel in almost everything i do. so like i said what ever doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i say we stick all gays in the desert where there is plenty of room for them to do as they please and make their own laws as to what they can and cannot do with regards to marriage and adoption.
we then stick an electrified 200 foot fence around said desert with automated 50 cal gun emplacements.
in such an environment they can do as they please and leave us alone, they would be happy and we would be happy...

everybody is happy, but till such a thing actually happens, they live in a heterosexually dominated world and therefor abide by our laws and tolerances or lack thereof., there's always the desert if they don't like it!

Aside from the actual implementation, that sounds like an interesting idea.
You do realise that adoption is highly unlikely inside such a non-reproductive facility?

Point of interest for those so violently against this idea: after one generation, *all* will have passed away but those adapted to the actual society instead of their own subculture. It's only a good thing. Those who have adapted can then go for real rights, instead of the twisted form they now crave so violently.

thats the point, unless both gay sexes put aside their disdain for one anthers gender and actually gave heterosexuality a go instead of acting like savages.

as for my idea being likened to a nazi style concentration camp...there would be no guards, no ovens and no gas chambers disguised as shower rooms...
so long as they keep there filth on their side of the fence, there's no problem.

[MajorLeeHurts]

Wow Avenger Thank you for setting the bar !! you make some of the other comments in this thread seem docile

But I must say I am appalled by your narrow mindedness.

[[KMA]Avenger]

as i said, i have 2 VERY good reasons why i hate them. as you can see, i wasn't kidding when i said i hate them with a passion....

so i'll take what you said as a compliment

[Mordack]

If you aren't going to explain why you hate homosexuals, then perhaps you should just stick to your original vow of not posting in the thread. Without any kind of substance behind them, then you posts just come across as ignorant, and like MajorLeeHurts said, narrow minded.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i already stated that the reasons (i feel) are to strong for these boards and besides, they are VERY personal and not something i want to publish to the whole world, i don't mind sharing my reasons with those that have posted in this topic, i just don't want it all over the web in the open.

so if you want to know, just ask me either over msn or via PM and i'll be happy to explain why...

and may i be the first to welcome you to the second least used part of the forum...ascended being the least i would imagine

[Mordack]

i already stated that the reasons (i feel) are to strong for these boards and besides, they are VERY personal and not something i want to publish to the whole world, i don't mind sharing my reasons with those that have posted in this topic, i just don't want it all over the web in the open.

so if you want to know, just ask me either over msn or via PM and i'll be happy to explain why...

and may i be the first to welcome you to the second least used part of the forum...ascended being the least i would imagine

Alright. I sent you a PM.

I'm not hugely pro-gay, but your views still come across as extreme even to someone as Conversative as I am.. so I'm curious to know the background.

[[KMA]Avenger]

extreme doesn't even begin to describe how gays and even worse, gay marriage make me feel, suffice to say that i have a less than zero tolerance attitude towards them.




well i think i've made my feelings on the topic very clear and doubt i will say anything new, so with that in mind...i think now would be a good time to take mine and Mordacks advice and depart from the topic

[Thriller]

The communities dumb arguments against gay marriage astound me. Your talking out of fear and not with your heads. "OH noes if the gayzz get mariued our soceiceitty wull fall apparts." Please... you have no evidence to support and your reasoning is severely flawed. THis is a legal issue, has nothing to do with warping and regressing societal values. You child turns out to be gay, It will have nothing to do with gay marriage. YOu really think not getting married is a deterrent to being gay. It isn't even in the ballpark. Their are legal advantages to being married, but I'm talking about the church idea marriage. Gays should be allowed to be common law spouses and their relationships should be recognized for what they are are not demonized by what they obviously are not. They should be entitled to the same rights under law as any heterosexual couple.

[semper]

The communities dumb arguments against gay marriage astound me. Your talking out of fear and not with your heads. "OH noes if the gayzz get mariued our soceiceitty wull fall apparts." Please... you have no evidence to support and your reasoning is severely flawed. THis is a legal issue, has nothing to do with warping and regressing societal values. You child turns out to be gay, It will have nothing to do with gay marriage. YOu really think not getting married is a deterrent to being gay. It isn't even in the ballpark. Their are legal advantages to being married, but I'm talking about the church idea marriage. Gays should be allowed to be common law spouses and their relationships should be recognized for what they are are not demonized by what they obviously are not. They should be entitled to the same rights under law as any heterosexual couple.

what? Who said any of that?

A child turns out gay? Has nothing to do with that. You go ahead and prove that, come on. Im going to LOVE this one.

Who said not allowing their marriage is meant to be a deterrent to actually being gay? They need a slap if they did put it so simply, but on top of that it could be, by a great length of extension just that because it is negative feedback. Humans are animals. Classical Conditioning.

It is not, within the real ideas of the church, allowed. This is one of the reasons the entire arc of faith has its haters, because it changes its colours when it should not.

Please, dont say we are posting out of fear and not with our heads. I think you have no idea, not a clue, what you were talking about in at least a third of what you just spewed into the topic.

[papa~smurf]

i already stated that the reasons (i feel) are to strong for these boards and besides, they are VERY personal and not something i want to publish to the whole world, i don't mind sharing my reasons with those that have posted in this topic, i just don't want it all over the web in the open.

so if you want to know, just ask me either over msn or via PM and i'll be happy to explain why...

and may i be the first to welcome you to the second least used part of the forum...ascended being the least i would imagine

well I can only know your feeling, but not why. Hate.......very stronge word to come with your strong statements. I ponder for u if u think some where in yourself, with such a strong negative reaction to your feeling from both sides of this issue, the issue may be yours, and is pointed at others.

[Apadamek]

marraige is between a man and a woman. those who swing another way can always enter into a civil partnership, which is marraige in all but name right?

gay couples shouldnt be allowed to adopt. at least not in this time.

imagine what it would be like for a child to go to their 1st day at secondary school with their two gay dads (wearing daffyd style clothes of course). that kid would get mocked back to 1984. fact.

maybe in the future where same sex parents wont draw as much notice/insults/attention it will be ok. that would need to be in a more tolerent and therefore better society. but not yet. its not fair on the child.

theres also the major importance of both a male and female role model for children.


btw i am in no way opposed to lesbians. infact i encourage people to wear comfortable shoes. but still no marraige/adoption yet. . . yet


oh and thats a good idea from mystake about being unioned.

If they can't adopt or marry can you explain how or when they would somehow not draw as much "attention"? They have to go through a painful insulting period, to grow as people and for everyone to grow as a society.

[Thriller]

The communities dumb arguments against gay marriage astound me. Your talking out of fear and not with your heads. "OH noes if the gayzz get mariued our soceiceitty wull fall apparts." Please... you have no evidence to support and your reasoning is severely flawed. THis is a legal issue, has nothing to do with warping and regressing societal values. You child turns out to be gay, It will have nothing to do with gay marriage. YOu really think not getting married is a deterrent to being gay. It isn't even in the ballpark. Their are legal advantages to being married, but I'm talking about the church idea marriage. Gays should be allowed to be common law spouses and their relationships should be recognized for what they are are not demonized by what they obviously are not. They should be entitled to the same rights under law as any heterosexual couple.

what? Who said any of that?

A child turns out gay? Has nothing to do with that. You go ahead and prove that, come on. Im going to LOVE this one.

Who said not allowing their marriage is meant to be a deterrent to actually being gay? They need a slap if they did put it so simply, but on top of that it could be, by a great length of extension just that because it is negative feedback. Humans are animals. Classical Conditioning.

It is not, within the real ideas of the church, allowed. This is one of the reasons the entire arc of faith has its haters, because it changes its colours when it should not.

Please, dont say we are posting out of fear and not with our heads. I think you have no idea, not a clue, what you were talking about in at least a third of what you just spewed into the topic.

You are a good guy but i don't expect someone of a lower intellect like yourself to understand.

The arguments i have read against gay marriage consist of it being a determent to society, screw up our kids, or perversion of nature. They either fit in one or some combination of these categories. It all reeks of fear and homophobia.

All it really boils down to in the end is justice and it is just that a homozygous couple should be entitled to all the privileges under the law that a married on is.

PS. I could conversely ask you for proof that allowing homosexuals to get married would turn a heterosexual into a homosexual. Their isn't a definable true answer to both, just opinion, it's just that mine is more informed.

[Colton]

Nice