Should English Be the USA offical language

[Fear Of The Duck]

what's the benefit of citizenship? (the real one, not the one that you are less of a govt slave in the land).

why should there be official language? youse doing ok without it.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... estion.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_ ... ted_States

we have irish as an offical language and all official govt waste papers have to be translated into irish (which is a great waste of time and money) for ppl who speak and read english anyways. on top of that at the moment more ppl in ireland speak polish, russian or chinese than irish.

[Brdavs]

Hands up whos in favour of ditching all languages of the globe including English for one common artificial: Esperanto? Think of the precticality.

Not many hands eh heh?

Gee, I guess it is different when one talks about your language being ditched as opposed to your language replacing one.

[Cole]

If it was taught in schools brdavs, why not add it on needed languages? However, it's not added yet on the list of "common" taught languages, such as: english, french, spanish, german, latin, greek, italian...


I'm all in favour that REAL english gets taught, instead of fake english.

[TheWay]

If it was taught in schools brdavs, why not add it on needed languages? However, it's not added yet on the list of "common" taught languages, such as: english, french, spanish, german, latin, greek, italian...


I'm all in favour that REAL english gets taught, instead of fake english.

I agree m8, there was a liberal movement not to long ago that tried to get ebonics (a innercity slang) taught and used in schools lol. Those liberals and their misguided ways always makes me laugh. The best thing ever is when they do things like make the game of tag illegal because it quote lowers the chased childs self esteem laughable aye

[Brdavs]

You people ranking languages according to common use? In that case spanish licks english. Spanish should be the world language.

"Misguided liberal way"... thats harsh imho. There was a time when J.C.s cult was in the minority. By such brutal logic imployed in this thread it should very well have been stomped out in favour of the roman pantheon, for the sake of "practicality", majority and conservative values. heh.

In my view it is right not to agresivly anglinize (or whatever) minorities, nomatter how few they are. Diversity is what enriches us. But then again I might be biased since throught history my particular nation has been subject to intense germanization in all fields + I now live in a cosy international integration that has no particular problems having count them 27 official languages

[TheWay]

How retarded can one get? If anything it's the chaser that loses selfesteem because everyone is running away from them, and NO ONE wants to be "it".

Lol very true

"Misguided liberal way"... thats harsh imho. There was a time when J.C.s cult was in the minority. By such brutal logic imployed in this thread it should very well have been stomped out in favour of the roman pantheon, for the sake of "practicality", majority and conservative values. heh.

In my view it is right not to agresivly anglinize (or whatever) minorities, nomatter how few they are. Diversity is what enriches us. But then again I might be biased since throught history my particular nation has been subject to intense germanization in all fields + I now live in a cosy international integration that has no particular problems having count them 27 official languages

First off my view on liberalism does not require debate since it was simply a matter of opinion lol, all you need do is disagree. I find it comical though that I bring up a political position I disagree with and you attack Christianity, I think this is very telling. People who read this forum need to make note of this and recognize that many of these arguments have nothing to do with anything other than a hatred for Christ himself. I find it telling that once someone finds out I am a believer they have a need to take pot shots at my lord and savior. If you have doubt to the tone of BRDAVS post take a look at the sentence where he implies that the Christian faith should have been stomped out by our logic. Either you are very uneducated in history or you are very insensitive because a study of history separate from religion will show that during the reign of Nero and then Diocletian the atrocities laid upon Christians were disgusting, please look up how they wished to STOMP out this J.C. cult.

Now back to the point of this debate.

Okay it is clear if you read my post that I agree that diversity is what makes a culture and at that a language great. My argument for why English should be the official language in America is a simple issue of orthodoxy or in other words it is the language of our founding fathers, it is the language all of our sacred documents including the constitution and the bill of rights which protect diversity and freedom. Look I am not saying people can’t speak their own language and if you notice I even support communities that are all speaking a different language because history shows that in time they diversifyand learn English by acclimating to the American way of life not just in language but in action as well. For generations people have desired to come to America not just to be here but to be American and I welcome those people with open arms.

P.S. The absence of a reverse statement does not make a statement

[Fire_of_Venus]

While the suggestion to ditch all languages for a common one such as Esperanto, the disadvantage here, which may be an advantage is that everyone has to learn it, which does put us all on equal ground but is a bit of a waste in practical terms. But with Esperanto in particular, I was lead to believe that it was rather tricky and hard to get new words into it.

One of the greatest advantages of English, in my opinion, is it's ability to go, as TheWay has pointed out, into slang. Slang which is either the corruption of an existing word or the inclusion of a foreign language word into the common vocabulary. From there, if used enough and accepted enough, it can move to a proper word quite easily.

The other advantage I see with English is that while it's nice to form precise sentences and such, you can be understood with only a limited vocabulary even if your grammar is atrocious. This makes it quite useful when trying to puzzle your way around something and advantageous as other languages tend to require precision with their words to be understood.

Additionally, while there is some tonal requirement in English, especially to portray sarcasm, it's not reliant on it to create the full meaning. The words themselves contain the meanings not the tone in which they were spoken.

At the moment I believe English is the official trade language as well as the official language of the internet (I guess building all those qwerty keyboards was for something after all. ) so it seems to me that we may not be seeing English as the official language of some country mostly in the northern american landmass, but potentially as the common language of the world.

[TheWay]

Oh my head awesome okay. Tekki told me to invite you into the alliance I just started so I sent the ingame, you havent replied yet but after this post we realy need you, so what do i need to do to get you to join lol. A friend of a friend and an intellegent person is a must have lol. Plus I know you have a good account since it used to be my wifes lol

Anyways I hope you join just let me know.

sorry if this doesnt go in this section but I make lots of very good arguments and I need more members in my alliance lol

[Cole]

Hmmm slang for the loose lol

[Quina Quen]

...heck...us continentals produce more complete sentences as the average Brit...

You're Dutch. You already won this arguement six pages ago.

[Fear Of The Duck]

Europeans Accept English as First Language

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English'.

In the first year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced with 'f'. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where! more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v'.

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl

[Nigatsu_Aka]

Did you knew that German was about to become the official language in USA in 1795 and it lost to only 1 vote in the Congress in favour of English?

I thought until now that USA has 2 official languages: Spanish and English, like Canada has French and English.

[Cole]

Europeans Accept English as First Language

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English'.

In the first year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced with 'f'. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where! more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v'.

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl

Glad it's english...even though it's jibber jabber since "year 1" line.

[Fear Of The Duck]

Europeans Accept English as First Language

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English'.

In the first year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced with 'f'. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where! more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v'.

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl

Glad it's english...even though it's jibber jabber since "year 1" line.

well.. jibber jabber as almost everything that came out of eu institutions

[David Bliss]

Yes it should be.