The Only Fuall vs Taskforce Thread Of Disscussion

[~Massin4Christ~]

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

She hasnt been on vac for one week, Caprila...

[GeneralChaos]

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

They are only on vac mode in game to save there MS and planets, they where not on vac mode on the forums.

[Caprila]

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

She hasnt been on vac for one week, Caprila...

Yes and the message was sent more than one week ago

[GeneralChaos]

I doubt a ceasefire would ever be honored anyway, someone on both sides would get a trigger finger and go for it, then the other would be pointing fingers again....

I don't see this farm fest ending anytime soon.

[GunZ]

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

The offer was made in an MSN discussion...not a blind unanswered pm.

There was CONSIDERABLE discussion of it.


And it DOES matter...was TO asked? Was TA ? Were the others ? I simply am baffled that people would not immediately see the propriety of such a thing ?

I am done trying to understand such logic.

[~Massin4Christ~]

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

She hasnt been on vac for one week, Caprila...

Yes and the message was sent more than one week ago

Sending IM to someone on vac mode, and expecting quick answer

Then again if offer is retracted it no longer matters.

The offer was made in an MSN discussion...not a blind unanswered pm.

There was CONSIDERABLE discussion of it.

Seems you dont know what you were talking about Caprila..

[jedi~tank]

We sshould pause and have a wet T-shirt contest featuring the " BABES OF SGW". I s that a sexist statement or request? What does sexist mean anyways? anyone ever though about that.."sexist" anyways cmon whaddaya say??? Contest?

[REK]

Deni won

[SVaRuN]

As many of you already know there is a server war going at this very moment but because of some events TL has decided to stay away from the official war thread for the time being.
However I keep getting these posts, mostly concerning TLE and since I got the picture and the fact that at least one person if not more are speaking rubbish about us I have decided to answer them and all those who would think the same - with this thread.
It may be a pathetic thread, a boring one or whatever. Nevertheless here is the answer, I ll be as honest and as objective as possible in my reply to this long post.
Wouldnt normally make this thread but why not we need to make things lively...

Fine Mathlord you wan


t to do it that way then okay.


TLE will be completely and utterly insufferable if they are allowed to win.

When we win we ll first thank the alliances and people that fought with us, for giving their all and standing beside us like we have through it all. We ll tell them once again its something we respect dearly, friendship that is.
Then we shall thank our enemies for well fought battle, even though they were the evil barbarians from our RPG point of view this is just a game and even if just a game our role in it is not to be the local bad guy, not tyrants but respectful towards all, something all of our members do not practice and need to improve agreed but also something TLE as a collective is doing and will resume to do in the future (room for improvement her as well)
After the Thank you part we ll focus on our programs, together with focusing on how to improve the game itself which has because of this war and consequntially also because of us fallen in quality.

Thats the jist of what we ll do after we win the war.

Various people have found out exactly how much they can change them - which is not at all.

People constantly change, the collective the system therefor constantly changes. TLE is not the same TLE and wont be the same TLE tomorrow and my work as work of all of us in TLE is that we make sure those changes will be for the better, that includes the better for the SGW community as well since we are part of it and wish to enjoy the game also.

I believe they are now regretting their decision to be where they are but they are stuck there as well. Such are the choices we make.

We have yet to regret a single decision we took since our creation. They were not all the right ones I agree, we made some mistakes I agree but we do not regret them, regreting them helps no one, we can and will only strife to fix our mistakes and make sure we dont repeat them in the future.
TLE is not sorry that we are in this war and even though we have not choose it we welcome it fuly.

I speak from my experience Mathlord.

While I was peeved with some of DDE's actions at the time I fought them, I and others did not come away from that battle with nothing but resentment. I cannot say the same for other battles. And what amazes me is that they were warned point blank that their actions would lead to this, yet they still seemed surprised when it happened.

To explain she is talking about ZION vs TLE war which was a war of a coalition against the entire TLE. Now since we both have our sides of the story I cannot say that what she feels is wrong I will however say that it was war that was planned from ZION for their own reasons which they believed in and their goal was to disband TLE or basically to destroy it!
To which we responded with striking first then demanding some kind of tribute for the as we think malicious attempt. In that we ommited one particular group we have admired in battle (Mayhem) and also "punish" the what we believed was the leading and most malicious group that was Ascended Empire.
We however unlike them have not demanded from them to be disbanded have however demanded reparations for the damage caused! (In NAQ)

So, yes, FUALL has learnt, and if you would look at their dealings with others you would see that. Problem is, you are part of the group that is stuck in the past, seeking vengeance for previous injustices while supporting those who are perpetuating similar hurt now.

Fuall is fuall TLE is TLE, we do not judge them for their actions and if you judge us for ours then be free to do so.
We do not agree with fualls doing in the past and we have fought it for it in the past as well, now today we are fighting cause we were attacked and cold war or whatever has been going on before that it matters not. We were attacked we are now fighting to win and thats it. No special twists or evil intents. Our only intention we ll also meet is to win and thats exactly what we ll do.

I am partially in a similar boat. TLE hurt my previous alliance to the point where I can't let it go, not yet, though with them falling into inactivity and those responsible pretty much gone, it's amazing how much better I feel about it.

TLE has hurt ZERO... This is a war game in which you decided to scheme and attack TLE and all TLE did was demanded NAQ (ingame resources) for the attack, now if war and the reparations (because you lost the war) have hurt your alliance it is not TLEs fault but more likely yours. Next time

a) dont attack alliances if your own army is so weak that they ll be hurt by their own attack

b) dont create and lead an alliance in a waring game if that alliance itself cannot handle and is hurt by war actions

We havent hurt anyone and that sentence of yours Tekki is either a GREAT metaphore or an illusion - you take responcibility for your action is first and second this is a war game... (not to mention again , you started the war...in fact TLE has yet to start a war...)

P.S. Shame you are joyful when people of this community, important people of it leave, in good relations or bad every single one of us is important and needed in this community if we wish to keep the game alive or bring it back to lfie for that matter.

I'll wait to see if Blahh actually sells his account

Blahh is a cocreator of TLE and as that we all wish for him not to sell the acount but even if he does him staying in the game itself is the only thing that matters. As its not the acount which makes Blahh but Blahh that makes an acount.

or if he just repeats what he's done in the past and if a certain someone with a name starting with Z comes back.

I will not always agree with either Blahhs or Zeshs doing, I will sometimes not agree with GunZs doing or yours...
But who am I to judge in a war game what some XYZ is doing, if I dont like it I have various ways in which I can act and I am sure sooner or later there is someone who doesnt agree with my doing and you know whatm if that XYZ will come to me and tell about how he feels in a respectful manner I may just as well me stuned by his actions and actually do something about it. Now if however some Tekki decides to destroy TLE I ll just beat her and move along, dont think for a second I ll think for one milisecond about the actions that girl has acused me for if the way she handles it is a way to ruin my alliance and with that mygameplay...

Otherwise though, they are now reaping what they sowed and realising, slowly that yes, it hurts and yes, it's not going to go away without them doing something significant.

People always reap what they sow so yes indeed we are reaping what we sowed ... have already mentioned dont regret a thing I did in my life and yes I think we can do better that I can do every minute of it and also am working towards doing better...
We are always trying to do something sagnificant lately I together with some of TL members am creating a history of SGW and there are loads more things we are doing and will resume to do but why mention the things we are doing for TLE, there are things TLE is doing and will resume to do for the future also...and if any those are that which should interest you.
I suggest also that if you have volunteered for the history program that you actually do something for it instead of nothing so far and pointing how others are doing nothing significant...

Given that this is the umptenth zillionth battle between OE/DDE and TAF/CF/TF(FOE)/AB and associated alliances, yes, it's understandable that you can't see the differences or how they have changed.

Every battle is unique and diffrent dont expect of him to go looking for diffrences every single time. What you fail to see however is the jist behind the said alliances, that jist remains, you just fail to see it and I dont blame you for it, I dont understand the jist of alliances I was not part of as well...

Most of my SGW career has been out of the super alliances, so I learnt how to deal with them and I saw how DDE/OE have adapted, and equally I've been able to observe how TAF and others have changed and how they have become what they claimed to dislike.

Again alliances change all the time, every time someone leaves, comes it changes...

Now that is not to say that I and others I care about ingame have not been hurt by DDE/OE

I sincerly hope you mean ingame hurt and if its that you mean why are you making such a big deal out of it in a war game. If you mean hurt in other ways I dont get what you are doing in the same alliances which have hurt you...

, just that in the scale of things and with the passage of time those things are of lesser hurt. Perhaps it's because if you hit them back and believe me I have, they don't hold a grudge but admit, they hit you, you hit them, score settled. Once again, I can't say the same for others.

We and particulary I hold grudge against no one, its just some people are to be warry off and some people are to be punished in some way (to prevent whatever actions they took from happening again - must say in your case that rutine failed, you keep on dissing the alliances and badmouthing people and alliances, respectful learn the word...)

GunZ has the right of it but from where I'm sitting some things are now becoming institutionalised within the alliances, and that just makes them worse than a few individuals.

Everything that happens ingame happens for an ingame reason. Dont dramatise about it, its your bad mood and negativism which are in fact hurting this game not some ingame actions by whoever!



Blue

[Noobert]

Wrong thread.

You should have posted in the Discussion thread Blue.

[SVaRuN]

Its not about the war, not about tjp/fuall so why?

Its a responce from TLE about their "image" as Tekki says...



I would ask the mod to move it back where it was...






Blue

[bebita]

one thing will never understand tle with svarun in front
we don't need your game view
not everything means to stay in front of pc and banking because svarun say so or blahh or zesh
i have a def because i want to protect my income not because for rank
blahh and tle show that a defence can't protect income
and if i have rank 1 def they come to mass it and inventing reason for wars (zion war)
so escuse me svarun
u suck in gameplay

[Noobert]

I tried to tell you Blue..

You don't want to listen..that is your business..

I don't even know why I bother..

[Robe]

Well Over a week ago…I offered Robe, leader of The Legion and titular head of all TTF a holiday cease-fire.

I am not the Leader of the Legion or the Task Force.
I am one leader of 18 Alliances, one voice in the HC (there are over 36 there now).

Thank you for my new word for the day "titular"
At first I thought you were talking about my bust size

I unilaterally offered a 3-4 week respite. I also offered that this period would give all sides time to discuss the war and it's direction without hostilities ...

I posted your "unofficial suggestion" in the Task Force HC whilst we were chatting on msn.

I offered ---in the spirit of the coming season to give everyone a bit of time away from the drudgery of war for a bit, so we could spend time on other more important things….

When I came back from a really hectic week at work, I messaged you in game and aplogised for the delay (explaining that a few Alliance leaders were yet to vote).

alas, it was not accepted.

Your offer was not rejected - see response above.

If your leaders were not told…. then maybe your leaders are not seen as equals in TTF …and that may give you even [b]more[/b] to think on.

All members of the TF HC are equal, which is why we need time to discuss important matters (like your proposal) and vote.

I now retract the offer, and I am sorry it was not accepted.

That is your prerogative. However, a simple message in game would have sufficed if you wished to rescind what I also thought was an excellent idea.

[Mathlord]

And the mod will decline. There is a myriad of options available to you, if you so choose to want to debate it's legitimacy as it's own separate entity unrelated to the server war, use one of them. Do not post in this thread about mod actions, please.

I am not posting about a mod action, but am requesting then if you are to move one of the posts from that discussion to this thread, could you please move them all; otherwise, the discussion is broken up and input is lost.