Israel vs Hamas, whom do you support?

[MajorLeeHurts]

There are people living in Gaza who are not Hamas. I support them.

The whole region is a mess ever since the Brits invaded many years ago

[Lithium]

at all begins ppl fighting for freedom were called terrorist , ie. IRA another example the war in kosovo they were called terrorist and they endup differently

Who says the IRA isn't terrorists? And Kosovo? Just because the bleeding heart media puts every underdog in a sympathetic light doesn't suddenly make it alright to rebel from their government. It's the same reason we shouldn't intervene in Darfur, because it isn't genocide.

this is the biggest stupidity i read here.

i dont know much bout IRA history, perhaps an irish can speak, but i know bout Kosovo , i do live next to it, in 1912 the gov of europe cut douwn my country and Kosovo was part of it, however u talk all crappy or a teen and want to say yrs.

what do u know about genocide, have u ever been scared to death? coz that nothing compared to genocide.

[Solus]

genocide.

this contradicts your arguments about cultures and w/e and our views on terrorism. what do you think hamas is doing/has been doing/has been trying to do to israel?

~soul

[Lithium]

i replied to another question b4.

do u like genocide vs terrorism?

one side is applying genocide tactics and the other one terrorists one. that conflict cant see the end unless the bigger one starts to tolerate to make peace. i suport palestine not terrorist which use young souls to create chaos.

its well known that all guerrilla forces (terrorists) have been used by other countries remotely involved. like US did in all south America.

From Nile to Euphrate is the old dream of Israel.

[Solus]

i replied to another question b4.

do u like genocide vs terrorism?

one side is applying genocide tactics and the other one terrorists one. that conflict cant see the end unless the bigger one starts to tolerate to make peace. i suport palestine not terrorist which use young souls to create chaos.

its well known that all guerrilla forces (terrorists) have been used by other countries remotely involved. like US did in all south America.

From Nile to Euphrate is the old dream of Israel.

i take it you trust mass media way too much?

youre talking about genocide and assuming that Israel is comitting it? Thing is that this whole conflict began because Hamas FROM CIVILLIAN FACILITIES fired rockets over an extended period at CIVILLIANS along with a declaration that they'll keep on firing UNTIL THERE ARE NO MORE ISRAELI'S. They do not discern between military personnell, and civillians. GENOCIDE. Israel on the other hand are acting out of a proper ideal. Defending their people from attacks. it is not terrorism, its WAR. Terrorism is terrorising people no matter their position title or standing. Israel are targeting the hamas militants who have been terrorising the israeli people for years through their attempts at genocide. the fact that theres so many casualties as a result of israels actions is because Hamas are hiding amongst civillians. did you know that they have facilities underneath hospitals for example SPECIFICALLY to cause uproar upon people fighting back? terrorising, comitting genocide, then hiding behind meat shields? and you think that a nation defending themselves are in the wrong? genius.

~soul

[Apadamek]

Frankly, they're both in the wrong. HAMAS has to deal with the fact that they lost their chance to kick israel out of the middle east about 50 years ago. They also need to realize that seeing as nobody is coming to help them that they need to negotiate or israel will destroy them. However Israel has to take it easy and not do anything stupid, or everyone else will come after it. HAMAS will never destroy israel on it's own.

On that note though, i am sick of Israeli arrogance. Israel is a small country with a small military and a small economy, it's only real power is the fact that it may have nukes and the fact that America let's it talk big and act big while supplying everything from tanks to missiles. We back them no matter what, that's a good ally i suppose but that's an abuse of trust seeing as Israel has no troops in either Afghanistan or Iraq (i think.)

Israel is a small country and it needs to learn to act like one. When they stop getting state of the art equipment at a heavy discount from the United States, they'll learn to be more humble.

[Lithium]

that the point HArry they should learn how to live with the community around like the community is trying. the latest news from Israel is to strike Iran atomic central and causing a big catastrophe in all views.

there will be peace when the city of god will be free at all. guess who dont want to share.


Void : many hamas/fatah soldiers has been killed but they are replaced by others among the civilian. that country is growing in war and giving to life not childrens but soldiers
i do see news otherwise we cant know if a country nukes another one and erase it at all.

[O Neills]

Frankly, they're both in the wrong. HAMAS has to deal with the fact that they lost their chance to kick israel out of the middle east about 50 years ago. They also need to realize that seeing as nobody is coming to help them that they need to negotiate or israel will destroy them. However Israel has to take it easy and not do anything stupid, or everyone else will come after it. HAMAS will never destroy israel on it's own.

On that note though, i am sick of Israeli arrogance. Israel is a small country with a small military and a small economy, it's only real power is the fact that it may have nukes and the fact that America let's it talk big and act big while supplying everything from tanks to missiles. We back them no matter what, that's a good ally i suppose but that's an abuse of trust seeing as Israel has no troops in either Afghanistan or Iraq (i think.)

Israel is a small country and it needs to learn to act like one. When they stop getting state of the art equipment at a heavy discount from the United States, they'll learn to be more humble.

As you said, they don't have a large army so how can they be expected to fight in Iraq?

[Cole]

Frankly, they're both in the wrong. HAMAS has to deal with the fact that they lost their chance to kick israel out of the middle east about 50 years ago. They also need to realize that seeing as nobody is coming to help them that they need to negotiate or israel will destroy them. However Israel has to take it easy and not do anything stupid, or everyone else will come after it. HAMAS will never destroy israel on it's own.

On that note though, i am sick of Israeli arrogance. Israel is a small country with a small military and a small economy, it's only real power is the fact that it may have nukes and the fact that America let's it talk big and act big while supplying everything from tanks to missiles. We back them no matter what, that's a good ally i suppose but that's an abuse of trust seeing as Israel has no troops in either Afghanistan or Iraq (i think.)

Israel is a small country and it needs to learn to act like one. When they stop getting state of the art equipment at a heavy discount from the United States, they'll learn to be more humble.

As you said, they don't have a large army so how can they be expected to fight in Iraq?

Mongolia sent troops in Iraq if not mistaken, and Israel is much larger in population than Mongolia is.

[Lithium]

also is my country and did send troops for the peace, does any know why there werent any israelian at twin tower in 11 sept??????????????

[Phoenix of Terra]

also is my country and did send troops for the peace, does any know why there werent any israelian at twin tower in 11 sept??????????????

Because 9/11 was really just a big bad evil conspiracy orchestrated by the Jews!

Please don't

[Lithium]

lets call an END of this thread and hope in a future not so far peace shall reign between arab's and isrealians.

[Tacet]

^^ I also think this can be locked.

The most important thing that emerged from this thread, I think, is that both sides does things that's wrong. Peace is a team effort, and I hope that that region might some day know it. War makes for great games, but pretty bad reality.

[Solus]

locked on authors request

~soul