disney, are they the good wholesome family brand we take....

[[KMA]Avenger]

them for?

i think Walt Disney is one of the most evil and non-family orientated company's in existence!

the evidence:

i couldn't lift the images from these pages so see for yourselves:

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Jessica.html
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Mermaid.html


gay day at disney...well there's real family entertainment for you!
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Pirate.html







http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Lion.html


this is an excellent dissection of some of the subliminal content of beauty and the beast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnnaP5e ... annel_page

has anyone seen Fantasia lately? that has to be the sickest film i have EVER seen!
there's also a naked woman flying towards the camera and i'm pretty sure thats towards the end of the film. i refuse to watch that film again so go look for yourselves.

i've also seen a donald duck kiddie ride, nothing strange in that except, donald is on his back and slightly angled so he is more or less pivoting on his rear end and because of the angle, the child is sitting in his lap, again, nothing wrong with that you say, well, the angle of donalds head is such that he is looking right at the crutch of the child and because of the width of the ride, the childs legs are wide open!
cant seem to find a picture of it but i assure you, this ride exists!

there is a hell of allot more credible evidence than that and i will post it as when i find it.

[Duderanch]

Kind of grasping at straws dont you think?

[SOlid Snake]

For those who know what the implication of this kind of subliminal messaging are, then yes, it is very worrying to know that brands like Disney are trying to implant sexual content into our childrens minds.

As a parent to be, this sickens me...

If you don't feel there is anything wrong with this, then please refrain from addressing me directly. Thank you...

Its also quite disturbing to know that it goes way beyond this genre. There is an agenda going on here. Who or why anyone would do this is beyond me.

KMA mate, your time would be better sent on more important forums...

[Jack]

#-o


I'm going to be perfectly honest with this one


I think anyone who would be offended by that is an idiot, its nothing noone has seen before, and kids don't know what it is so who cares?

and also, kids these days are way dumber than those of yester-year, so it makes it even less important, lol

Ignoring your insult, your argument fails in the red.


Your last line is just retarded, kids are hardly "dumber" today, then they were in the past.

[[KMA]Avenger]

and also, kids these days are way dumber than those of yester-year, so it makes it even less important, lol

going slightly off topic here but i have to address that (even tho jack did a good job of doing so already).

i have 3 sons and i am (hate to use the word proud) proud that all 3 are top of the class and regularly get recognition for it.

they are well behaved and NEVER use swear words and have respectable friends and, i get regular thanks from the schools for making their jobs easier because i show great interest in my childrens education.
my sons are way ahead of the pack and i take great offense when you say children are dumber, they are NOT dumber than they used to be, how can someone get dumb?

its a lack of knowledge that makes people dumb and thats noting to do with anything other than the crap the NWO has been feeding people for the past 70/80 years due to the fact they have hijacked the media and the entertainment industry. now that's a whole different subject and 1 i don't want to carry on here.

back on topic...

[[KMA]Avenger]

getting back on topic...

this guy is not happy with disneys at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CivLakTK ... annel_page

[Jack]

For the record, I just want to say that Disney is the greatest corporation ever! You should go and spend all your money there!

[Kit-Fox]

you do all realise that all humans even children have the desire for sex pre-programmed as it were into them.

Such subliminal messages, if you can even call them that as pretty much all those examples were decidely clutching at straws, are unlikely to affect that pre-programmed disposition towards sex.

edit: lets just look at jessica rabbit for example, it is unlikely that the animators thought to draw in underwear as they probably didnt envisage her dress rising that high. The fact that it did and no underwear was drawn in was probably just an oversight in the rush for the release date, you have heard of the term 'cruch-time' i assume? mistakes can and do happen especailly then.

[[KMA]Avenger]

you do all realise that all humans even children have the desire for sex pre-programmed as it were into them.

i agree but that pre-program doesn't activate till you reach maturity. theres much evidence (as well as young school age mothers) to suggest that people are becoming sexually active at a much younger age.

Such subliminal messages, if you can even call them that as pretty much all those examples were decidely clutching at straws, are unlikely to affect that pre-programmed disposition towards sex.

well, seeing is believing and i thought it was pretty powerful evidence, not "flaky" in the least.

edit: lets just look at jessica rabbit for example, it is unlikely that the animators thought to draw in underwear as they probably didnt envisage her dress rising that high.

are you saying that just as in real life-animation has an air of randomness? i mean, what was it the animator failed to take into account? JR while spinning on her backside would have her skirt lifted because of wind?

The fact that it did and no underwear was drawn in was probably just an oversight in the rush for the release date, you have heard of the term 'cruch-time' i assume? mistakes can and do happen especailly then.

what you have to realize is that films are made with meticulous monotonous care. simply put, it takes animators and special FX people many MANY hours working on a single frame of film to get it right, are you saying everyone involved in these shots were so worried about time constraints they all failed to see this stuff?

if these films were real life films then we could put most of it down to carelessness and random events, but the fact that these are all drawn by hand suggests what?

[Kit-Fox]

I hate to burst your bubble KMA but 75% of all the work done on traditional animations, which is how the cartoon bits of 'who framed rodger rabbit' were done are done by 'in-betweeners'. These are essentailly animation students who do all the boring bits like arms moving, walk cycles etc. The high pain animators mostly manage these 'in-betweeners' and draw the original characters and only do major bits.

So as said it was probably an oversight a mistake or possibley one of these 'in-betweeners' slipping in something that shouldnt have been there and it got missed in the 'crunch-time'

The principle animator for who framed rodger rabbit said in his book about animation that towards the end of teh project tings were getting rushed as the deadlines came in thick & fast and so while it might be very meticulous monotonous work now, made even easier with computers it wasnt back then working on transparencies.

and of those reasons could be correct and are much more likely than disney slipping in subliminal messages about sex. Oh and animation is decidely random, you ever wonder where the outtakes from things like Monsters Inc come from?? that would be the animators fiddling and playing around while making the film, sometimes the bits are used sometiems they arent, very random indeed.

The pre-program begins right from the moment the child is able to grasp the difference between it & the world (self realisiation) it doesnt wait till maturity to kick in, your talking about puberty which is a completely different process that revolves around the development of secondary sexual characteristics and sutble changes in your body chemistry to allow you to function on a regular basis.

EDIT: in-betweeners because they drawn all the bits inbetween primary poses drawn by lead animators you see

[[KMA]Avenger]

ok, i see what your saying with regards to JR, but there are simply way to many of these mistakes (and all in regards to sex i might add) to be either random or just mistakes, and if it was all about roger rabbit, i might have agreed but these "mistakes" go all the way back to the 1940's, (so we are not just picking on roger rabbit) how can a naked woman flying at the camera be a mistake in the art of Fantasia?

there's to much to be dismissed or explained.

[Rocky]

elongar will be adding something here i think and id like to say dude what do you think disney are trying to achieve using subliminal messaging? ok lets assume your right and all those extremely flaky scraps you found are done on purpose, what do you think disney are gaining? what is the point in doing all that on purpose, you think they have some kind of huge master plan, its not making people buy, watch dinsney creations or make money so, what are they gaining?
your making a mountain out of an invisible molehill

[Rocky]

elongar will be adding something here i think and id like to say dude what do you think disney are trying to achieve using subliminal messaging? ok lets assume your right and all those extremely flaky scraps you found are done on purpose, what do you think disney are gaining? what is the point in doing all that on purpose, you think they have some kind of huge master plan, its not making people buy, watch dinsney creations or make money so, what are they gaining?
your making a mountain out of an invisible molehill

thats easy, disney owns the adult industry

lol ok, lets go down that route then, even in the wierdest of circumstances where disney also owns the adult industry, firstly do you think people even notice those small and unnoticeable "flaws". if even that. Secondly do you think targetting children at that age is even effective? at that age boys aren't interested in girls, and vice versa, unless you are 16 and still watching mickey mouse, in which case shame on you

[ramen07]

i must say, i saw those movies when they came out, and i never even found out that "sex" existed till i was much older. if they were trying to put meaningful subliminal messages in those movies, they failed.

[Colton]

lol, it was obviously random people (Like these "inbetweeners") daring each other/just doing it 'For the Lulz' and in my opinion if you think all these hidden sexual pictures are part of something "much bigger" then I think you are indeed grasping at straws with your large imagination ^_^

No offence to anyone