WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

[Lore]

well I am assuming that you only disagree with my belief of how the 'sidekick' should work and the war part... (if not please state..)

correct

[Manetheren]

I think an ombudsman team may slow things down too much. If everything needs to be discussed by all 3 before actions are taken and we have omsbudsman on 3 different continents, then the constant delay could castrate the position. However if you have 1 person in charge that can make decisions with or without talking to the vice/assistant, then the response time will stay where it needs to be.

As far as war and tags, no matter what alliance the ombudsman is in they can find themselves in the middle of a server war and be accused of bias because they belong to one side of the conflict. If the candidate cant lay their tag down when working as ombudsman then they shouldnt be applying. If they cant deal with being called biased then they shouldnt be applying.

[zeekomkommer]

i think this should be left to the new ombudsman to descide. and perhaps pick someone who ran for the title who didn't make it with who he get's along. that way if there is an assistant they would work better along with eachother

[Jack]

Onto the matter of side kick. Well yes, thats another, fair suggestion..but then why not just have, two Ombudsman's or an Ombudsman council of three? Majority wins, they take it in turns for one to be the 0.1% chief every week in case there are just two present. Everyone has the ability to wait until all three are there. Also would rule out the potential of Bias if you have one from each of the super powers and a neutral one..much in the same way the admins are. It can be called... 'The Tribunal'.. you can get a special little sig an avatar and even a custom title.. it could be beautiful. lol...

Also not gonna happen.


Reasons: See Manetheren's post

[semper]

I think an ombudsman team may slow things down too much. If everything needs to be discussed by all 3 before actions are taken and we have Omsbudsman on 3 different continents, then the constant delay could castrate the position. However if you have 1 person in charge that can make decisions with or without talking to the vice/assistant, then the response time will stay where it needs to be.

As far as war and tags, no matter what alliance the ombudsman is in they can find themselves in the middle of a server war and be accused of bias because they belong to one side of the conflict. If the candidate cant lay their tag down when working as ombudsman then they shouldnt be applying. If they cant deal with being called biased then they shouldnt be applying.

Fair enough to the first part... but I know I would never be the Ombudsman's lackey. lol.. At the end of the day I answer to no one unless I wish to. Still though if you are going to have two, HAVE two... dont make one less powerful then the other, give them separate shifts and things, it will keep the situation fresh, and probably make a higher retention rate with Ombudsmen. I just do not like the idea of the Ombudsman having a 'mini me'...does not sit well.

As for the second part, that is exactly what Lore said and my reply to his post still stands as a reply to yours. Yes I agree that is how it should be, but thats not how it is and it never will be. Delusions of grandeur...
On a further note, not everyone has a side in the server war..I see merits and negatives on both sides, and where as I began supporting FUALL, my colourful spout with their leadership has changed my opinion of their cause, but at the same time I harbour no love for the TTF's, I want neither power to come out of this in one piece...would rather them destroy one another..but it wont happen.

[Lore]

Well as prviously said I think this round should go the the Oms elected.

As for a 3 man council, Coming from the experiance of the 3 admin council, it can cause more problems then solve. It is infact very difficult, and the 3 of us work well together, I can image how bad it would be if we didnt.

[Rocky]

i would like to vote but it seems the voting thread is locked, can anyone fill me in, i haven't been paying that much attention to how this is run

thanks

Rocky

[semper]

viewtopic.php?f=101&t=137005

there you go Rocky.

[Rocky]

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWarsNew/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=137005

there you go Rocky.

thanks i guess i noobed it again as some people would say

[semper]

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWarsNew/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=137005

there you go Rocky.

thanks I guess I noobed it again as some people would say

lol. It was also quite lucky you asked when you did, as someone asked me for the link on msn so had just copied it.

[Rocky]

lucky me

btw how will this be working, do we have any plans for a second ombudsman? or is that still just a suggestion because id like to say, a second ombudsman might be very worthwhile, its a hard job and as we can see no one lasts that long, if we do decide on this i also suggest they are equal, just two ombudsman so that the workload on a free game, is less and therefore more enjoyable and so that they can consult each other of course

[Tekki]

So what is the estimate on the number of people who signed up to the forum just to vote for this or that person, given that I can see a number of accounts with very low post counts voting.

[Empy]

So what is the estimate on the number of people who signed up to the forum just to vote for this or that person, given that I can see a number of accounts with very low post counts voting.

I'm loving all the people voting that have like under 20 posts and just made their accounts... Clearly this is a "How many people can I convince to vote for me even if they don't know me" contest. I guess Ombudsman isn't that important ?

[Robe]

The objective of this voting process was to reduce the risk of one person lodging more than one vote.

The process is more rigorous than the one we used for the Awards.

Steps have been established to review any suspect votes prior to announcing the winner.

No system is perfect. However, we feel that this is the most transparent and open process available to us at this point in time.

Any learning we make during this election will be available for future implementation, as is the case with the recent Awards Program.

[Clarkey]

Unfortunately this is a popularity contest. People will vote for friends, they will vote for those in their alliance or allies. This is inevitable, and no-one can expect anything else from this community.

This however is the only way it can reasonably be done. There will always be people that are not happy with the result, and there will be people that are happy with the result. 'tis a fact of life, as not everyone gets a long.

Due to the fact that this is a popularity contest this is the reason that I have NOT voted for anyone. I also feel that Mods shouldn't vote, but that'sd just my own opinion.

So, may the most popular person win...... because we all know the "right" person won't... whoever that actually is.