Flaw in income?

[Evilevi777]

alright, me and a few others have calculated this quite a few times, and all come up with the same thing each time


Turn Income Production: 6,651,611,562 Naquadah (in 10 minutes)

that's me, and i have officers set to 30%, and i have three

everytime i calculate i find that each officer should get about 950 mil per turn increase, although my newest officer is an old player now returning, and he has 0 miners, yet his income is only 690 milllion per turn.

what is going on here?

[Evilevi777]

there is,

Turn Income Production: 6,651,611,562 Naquadah (in 10 minutes)


that is my income after the 30% to officers, not before

[Evilevi777]

it's no problem, i'm just confused as to what's going on lol

[born to die]

kick them all, problem will gone... joking... interest bug

[Borek]

there is,

Turn Income Production: 6,651,611,562 Naquadah (in 10 minutes)


that is my income after the 30% to officers, not before

Officer income is based on your current income, not what you would have with no officers.

[Evilevi777]

i thought it was based on total income as have about 20 others i have spoken with?

[Caprila]

Don't forget to add the Alliance Tax.

1% of your own income goes to Alliance bank, something I do'nt think is accounted for on most calculators.

So income to officers calculation will be a little off.

[Evilevi777]

true, didn't account for that, but where's the other 150 million per turn for each officer at?

[Nimras]

No there is a bug.

For 6 turns my officers did not get correctly income until i did a set to 10% then go back on 30%.

Both but they still dont get what they should.

I have even done some math on a friend of mine even removing the 1% to alliances but you forget he dont loose 1% as if you turn banners on you get the 1% back setting your income to esactly what it should be if you where alliance less and had taken banners off, and all that he still get 100mill more per turn than he should. the 1% loss only count if your in a alliance not showing banners.

Another friend lost 10bill income when he went without a co according to what he should EARN 10bill. Funny was when he got me as a officer and set me to 30% then the income was correct.

So either the way you calc the income has changed or something is wrong.

All my calcs have been correct so far and i keep finding it not to match what the games does.

So the calc should be:

80 + bonus * miners + 20 + Bonus * UU + Planets income a turn + 10% if you have no co = your income.

Your officers shares then 30% of that.

What you see is what you have left after the 30% so like this: 80 + bonus * miners + 20 + Bonus * UU + Planets income a turn + 10% if you have no co/what ever your co gives you - 30% to officers = your income <---- correct??

Else officers are calculated before your 10% or your co's income then it makes it harder.

It that above is correct there is many ways to find out what you make total: Income * 100 / 70 = Income if you had no officers if you where on 30%, i always use that one as it is the most presise if you want to be sure you did not hit wrong lol. Then you have your total.

Anyway something is not right.

AND TESTED, removing ADDs means i loose 1% of my income SO did my officers they lost income. Putting it back and i got what i should have even with 1% to the alliance bank. Being showed ADDS means you do not loose anything to the alliance you gain the 1% you give meaning all math done so far is correct by the fact they are done on the info supplied so far.

Jason you need to look into this. Especially as going on Nox and Crit dont always help your income along if you have no officers my friend who lost 10bill can confirm that he only got his naq back when he took me as a officer and latre KICKED me until then nothing we did gave him his right amount of income back and even now it does not follow the math you provided to find out your earnings something is off.

And the fact that you can go many turns without income on your account or officers update correctly unless you change output and input to your officers, go on nox and off plus even crit and off which will cost 12 turns if you have to do that often is a issue.

Please look into it or tell if you have changed the way we do the math?

[Nimras]

And the income bug continues.

2 turns in and what i get in income is far greater than i should when on crit.

I give 30% to my officers and get around 14,5bill per turn off crit. going on max crit lvl i get around 8,5bill thats not even close to the 70% reduction i should get in my income that would be 4,4bill income i should be on.

Lol there is really something wrong with the income in this game and its strange how it shows, somecases it gives to little other cases to much in some cases i have seen 10bill loss from what you should have and in my case 4bill gain lol.

[Nimras]

ANY NEWS as the bug is getting annoying and i find more and more proof of it.

So unless the Admin would be so nice to tell if any numbers or how the game makes the income is if it has changed then the math i have worked with is 100% correct and the ingame income is flawed not a little but big time.

Its from alot of BILLS not being issued or being giving that it should not to as small as few 100mills even few mills. And the fact it seems not always update when people get new officers or leave for another co and its almost impossible to get it on right track for some reason makes it even more annoying.

That said sorry for double post.

[ScoobyDoo]

I believe also something is wrong here.

Before i took on a commander my income was 10.3bil a turn and theni signed in under someone and gained a 1.4-1.5bil a turn boost. Then I took on an officer, even if it is based on my raw income my officer should be getting close to 3.1bil a turn, when in fact all he is getting is approximately 1.9bil a turn. Unless it all has to do with the non-co bonus.

I am so confused when it comes to figuring out incomes - lol.

[Dizzy]

So the calc should be:

80 + bonus * miners + 20 + Bonus * UU + Planets income a turn + 10% if you have no co = your income.

Your officers shares then 30% of that.

Nimras - your formula is incorrect, planets are not subject to the 10% bonus for no commander, you also forgot the race bonus, 25% for Goa'uld and additional %'s once ascended.

Turn income = (Natural income x banner ads x no co bonus) + (planets/48)

where natural income = UU x 20 + Miners/Lifer x 80 x race/ascended bonus

For me:

Turn Income Production: 21,912,005,793 Naquadah (in 23 minutes)

177,277,901 (43,685,567) miners(lifers)
68,573,184,000 income per day from planets
LG+1 (+30%)
No Commander (or officers)
Banner Ads on

Natural income = 177,277,901 x 80 x 1.3
= 18436901704

which means
Turn Income = (18436901704 x 1.01 x 1.1) + (68573184000/48)

= 20483397793.144 + 1428608000
= 21,912,005,793.144

I make 2 assumptions from that:
1) Income from a commander is not subject to any multipliers, it is added on like planet income
2) Income to officers would be based on your income before any commander income or no-commander bonus is taken into account.

[Nimras]

So the calc should be:

80 + bonus * miners + 20 + Bonus * UU + Planets income a turn + 10% if you have no co = your income.

Your officers shares then 30% of that.

Nimras - your formula is incorrect, planets are not subject to the 10% bonus for no commander, you also forgot the race bonus, 25% for Goa'uld and additional %'s once ascended.

Turn income = (Natural income x banner ads x no co bonus) + (planets/48)

where natural income = UU x 20 + Miners/Lifer x 80 x race/ascended bonus

For me:

Turn Income Production: 21,912,005,793 Naquadah (in 23 minutes)

177,277,901 (43,685,567) miners(lifers)
68,573,184,000 income per day from planets
LG+1 (+30%)
No Commander (or officers)
Banner Ads on

Natural income = 177,277,901 x 80 x 1.3
= 18436901704

which means
Turn Income = (18436901704 x 1.01 x 1.1) + (68573184000/48)

= 20483397793.144 + 1428608000
= 21,912,005,793.144

I make 2 assumptions from that:
1) Income from a commander is not subject to any multipliers, it is added on like planet income
2) Income to officers would be based on your income before any commander income or no-commander bonus is taken into account.

Actually the 10% are added on planets from what i can se and yet explaine how still the income is showing as much as 10bill to little and to much??

And my math are done on bonus from your race or ascention and then 10% plus if co less, planets a turn thats planets income/48.

Doing that the income still dont add. Giving the 10% after planets is added neither. You forget the 1% of adds are taken if your in a alliance also meaning no gain there.

Having a co or no co does affect your officers when i increase my income calcing some of them gets esactly 30% shared of what i make with co or co less.

Then there is the issue that not only notising the income giving as much as 10bill to much and even to little i have notised on my own account that i am loosing UU and sometimes gaining.

Some days i get 10k less a day than i should my officers PRE UP is the same i have no UP planets and i give them 30%. Taking 15% of what they make and tops 50% of my raw and add it together with my raw and add the 10% bonus to my raw also still makes me wonder whats wrong since i have sometimes getting to much other times to little and i have no way of seeing why.

As i said unless i dont know all the math in the formulas i havent calced wrong and no matter if i give what i get from my co or what i make co less the income giving to officers arent right. I cant get it to match my income at any point adding my 10% before planets or after planets. soo still wonders what the heck is missing.

[Dizzy]

Nimras, would you mind posting your stats and I can have a look through them (or PM)

I dont have officers, and want to see if I can crunch the numbers through and get it.

The UP difference I can't explain....