Flaw in income?

Nimras
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Re: Flaw in income?

Dizzy wrote:Nimras, would you mind posting your stats and I can have a look through them (or PM)

I dont have officers, and want to see if I can crunch the numbers through and get it.

The UP difference I can't explain....


122,769,468 miners LG+2 no co and in alliances and adds meaning only 10% bonus = 31% bonus.

(122769468 * (80*1,31)) * 1,1 = 14,152,864,271.04 I have officers so thats 30% off

14152864271.04/100*70 = 9,907,004,989.728

I get: Turn Income Production: 9,906,014,289 thats 990,700.728 naq per turn from it at least its to live with but i have seen worse.

lets do it without the 10% and then add them after offciers: 9,907,004,989.728 and then i did (122769468 * (80*1,31))/100*70*1,1.

So something is off the 1% bonus would just give me more on it so thats not happening and removing 1% gives me less.

Something is off. and i have no planets.

So not sure what the hell is going on.
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Re: Flaw in income?

Nimras - the problem you have encountered is assuming that the 1% bonus for adds, and the 1% income that you give for being in an alliance cancel each other out. They dont cancel out. If they did cancel each other out, then 1.01 x 0.99 would equal 1..... which it does not. It equals 0.9999

That 0.0001 is the difference between your calculated income and your actual income ingame. See below, with the 1.01 and 0.99 multiplied in.

(122769468 x 80 x 1.31) x 1.1 (no co) x 1.01 (adds) x 0.99 (alliance)
= 14151448984.612896

minus 30% to officers

= 14151448984.612896 x 0.7
= 9,906,014,289.2290272
~ 9,906,014,289 per turn.


I get: Turn Income Production: 9,906,014,289 thats 990,700.728 naq per turn from it at least its to live with but i have seen worse.


If one of your officers would post his or her stats then we could work out the exact formula.
Nimras
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Re: Flaw in income?

Dizzy wrote:Nimras - the problem you have encountered is assuming that the 1% bonus for adds, and the 1% income that you give for being in an alliance cancel each other out. They dont cancel out. If they did cancel each other out, then 1.01 x 0.99 would equal 1..... which it does not. It equals 0.9999

That 0.0001 is the difference between your calculated income and your actual income ingame. See below, with the 1.01 and 0.99 multiplied in.

(122769468 x 80 x 1.31) x 1.1 (no co) x 1.01 (adds) x 0.99 (alliance)
= 14151448984.612896

minus 30% to officers

= 14151448984.612896 x 0.7
= 9,906,014,289.2290272
~ 9,906,014,289 per turn.


I get: Turn Income Production: 9,906,014,289 thats 990,700.728 naq per turn from it at least its to live with but i have seen worse.


If one of your officers would post his or her stats then we could work out the exact formula.


Hmm well if we go by you either first get 1% from adds and then loose 1% after they are added from Alliance your might right hold on let me do the math on my income atm:

(138634295 x 80 x 1.31) x 1.1 (no co) x 0,99 (alliance) x 1,01 (adds) = 15.980.163.351,44724 x 0,3 (on critical) = 4.794.049.005,434172

Officers get 30% = 4794049005.434172 x 0,7 = 3.355.834.303,8039204
~ 3.355.834.304

My income: 3,355,834,304

Well your right it does not just nullify each other which is a wrong assumtion from my side i retrack my case any chance your willing to work on the UP part as then i would like to know what i missed there??

I will go true my officers income i know if they have adds and all the info i need also if they have income planets and check if its the same mistake i make there lol. And show you what i found it should make it easier now to see where i went wrong. But thinking that instead of adding 1% bonus and then take 1% off it just nullified each other was a mistake from my side ohh well we all make mistakes hehe took the easy route they just nullifie :? :oops:.

And i ran into trouble here is what i get (thanks to a friend for letting me test it by getting him to give me the info i needed):

320,000,000 Miners no UU
13,820,352,000 Daily Income 1 planet
LG+1 = 30% bonus
No co = 10% Bonus
Adds = 1% Bonus
Alliance = -1%
Officer set to 10% = -10%
Turn Income Production: 33,201,277,937 Naquadah

(320000000 * 80*1.30) * 1.1 (no co) * 0,99 (alliance) * 1,01 (adds) = 36.604.339.200 + (13820352000/48 = 287.924.000) = 36.892.263.200 * 0,9 (since thats what he has after 10% to officers) = 33.203.036.880 thats not 33.201.277.937 a tad over.

We can also do: 36.604.339.200 * 0,9 (officer) + planet = 33.231.829.280 also wrong hmm.

Or (320000000 * 80*1,3) + planet * 1,1 * 1,01 * 0,99 * 0,9 = 33.228.921.535.524 ~ 33.228.921.535 still wrong.

Lol damn and then there is the if you have a Co or what you give officers lol this can take some time.

Got any idea why??
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