are we standing on planet earth or....

[[KMA]Avenger]

is earth, The Asteroid Belt and Saturn's Rings all remnants of the late great planet Tiamat?

i'm doing A HELL of allot of research into ALL the Ancient accounts of the world wide cataclysms as recorded by ancient peoples of the world as well as looking into how dinosaurs could have grown so big and moved so quickly when elephants can barely run even tho cave paintings clearly show mammoths galloping.

i'm also looking into accounts of lost civilizations, (Atlantis if you will) recorded battles of "The Gods", the bible, VERY likely manipulation of mans genetic code by aliens and much more besides, and i have found that earths recorded history by modern day scholars should be ashamed of themselves for trying to organize, condense and simplify the history of our solar system, the earth and mans history in to something like:

the solar system formed had a few bumps and bashes from colliding planetoids, the planetoids cooled, single celled organisms formed on earth, the came more complex organisms and then came the stupid dinosaurs who were so stupid that they lived for 100's of millions of years, they all got wiped out because they were so stupid they couldn't hide underground, then came the age of the giant animals and our ancestors, the apes who took to living in damp caves. those apes got bored and took to painting on the walls till they discovered the art of building huts to get away from damp caves. the apes then evolved into modern day man (even tho NO missing link has ever been or likely to be found) who got tired of living in mountainous and wilderness type areas and decided to start writing down fairy tales and making cities and forming civilizations built a few monuments here and there and then we discovered technology and voila, here we are today!
yes i know i have condensed what the scholars are saying (and used allot of sarcasm) but i am convinced, they have got it MASSIVELY (bordering on the criminal and fraud) wrong, and they have to answer for it!!!

i am also convinced that the ancient accounts are absolutely 100% accurate (and there are MANY storys you can look into, including Atlantis, planet X or Nibiru, The Hollow Earth Theory, HUGE underground cities, Giants, The Titans, ancient accounts of atomic warfare as recorded in the bible and the Indian epic-The Mahabharata and MUCH MUCH more) and have been placed in the category of fantasy because earth and mans past is to fantastic to believe because its easier to think we had a nice little ride from nothing to here.

sometimes i laugh when i think how clever modern man thinks he is. that's a joke in itself because if we are so clever, why don't we go out and build for ourselves some of the monuments our ancestors built, such as Machu Pichu or the obvious one...the great pyramid of Giza or move 1000 tone blocks of stone our ancestors moved for fun?!?!

they can have their lies, i want no part in it!!!



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/herco ... bus_26.htm

[[KMA]Avenger]

did i say that?

i know but i couldn't help myself lol. to be brutally honest...i'm fast getting to the point of being physically sick with the neat and tidy packaged world we live in. the whole thing is a lie, from top to bottom, i might not be 100% accurate on many of the details but i assure you, the world is one gigantic lie and i am correct in much of what i say, otherwise i wouldn't say it. i also feel a sense of duty to tell people about this and for those that at least have an open mind to go and research themselves....

its as simple as that.



for this they are willingly ignorant of...the world that was, being overflowed with water, perished.

2 peter 3:5

[Ridd1ck]

AHAH!!

Found it, now I can always find it under "My posts"!

Very well put KMA.....will pay close attention to the link and your topics.

[Colton]

Can't wait for this thread to unfold

GoodLuck in your research, and please bring some back for us

[Colton]

Just read the link you provided, very interesting

Bump

[Juliette]

I love the theory.
And honestly, I cannot say I don't think it's true. It might not have any effect on our present existence, but it sure is interesting.

Paleohistory.. or whatever the word is.. I LOVE it.

[[KMA]Avenger]

FINALLY!!!

i have found a topic with no negative first posts

tbh guys n galls, this topic would be better if (if you are all so interested in the topic that is) you guys could do some digging on your own and post what you find. i am by no means an authority on ANY (waits for the feedback on that last bit lol )subject and would also like to see what you come up with as well

[Colton]

I would be if it wasn't for my crappy dialup connection

[[KMA]Avenger]

no problem, but do let us know if you find anything

[[KMA]Avenger]

sorry for the double post BUT, i'm currently going through the book of revelation and i started to re-read it with a more open mind and put aside the religious overtones and am looking at it in a more simplistic way (for lack of a better term).

and the fifth sounded, and i saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth; and to him was given the key to the bottomless pit.

could this be in reference to the fifth planet being destroyed (or cast down) by some kind of cataclysm?

any thoughts on this bottomless pit?

[Kit-Fox]

Given what we know about how planets, solar systems, suns etc etc are formed and looking as other solar systems close to us it is highly unlikely that a 5th inner planet existed.

The asteroid field you are referring too is most likely the remains of raw matter that didnt clump into a planet when our solar system resembled the horsehead nebula (assuming of course this how solar systesm form, we think it is but conclusive proof is difficult to come by in a field where it can take millions of years for one thing to happen)

Put simply the gravitational force during the 'birth period' when our solar system was a mass of energy & matter wasnt enough in that one area to form a ball of rock big enough with its own gravitational pull and so they stayed asteroids and over the course of time they have probably spread out as the planets and other stellar object we pass 'relatively' close too have an effect on them.

[[KMA]Avenger]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/herco ... bus_26.htm

have you read the info on that page?

i'm asking because i need a point of reference so i can respond properly.


i have it somewhere (cant seem to find it now...GRRR, need to be more organized so i can have info at hand) where the possibility that the belt is exactly that, junk that never formed into a planet or sucked down into a planet, but this has been proven to not be the case.

[Kit-Fox]

Yes I read the page and it still doesnt make any sense according to what we know about the universe & how we understand cosmic events.

If a planet had exploded for example ( think end of sg-1 & asgard homeworld explosion for a visual example ) there simply wouldnt be an asteroid belt, the remains would have been thrown out into the system by the force of an explosion big enough to destroy a planet and either become meteors and get burned up or possibley become a moon and even rarer maybe become a rogue asteroid on a random path. Either way there would be no belt.

As for mercury been a moon of venus, well thats just plain stupid. The sheer amount of energy that would be needed to move even a planet as small as mercury the relatively small distance (ie the current distance between mercury & venus) towards the sun would be so astronomical that no one owuld be able to do it and the chance of such an expendature of energy happening naturally that just happens to move a moon/planet (take you pick depending on which theory you choose) is just as unlikely.

[[KMA]Avenger]

if the planet was cleaved in 2 instead of being totally destroyed (as is being suggested), would this be feasible?

[Juliette]

if the planet was cleaved in 2 instead of being totally destroyed (as is being suggested), would this be feasible?

What could cleave a planet the size of Tiamat in 2 and leave the pieces to be worthwhile (like Terra)..