are we standing on planet earth or....

[Thriller]

is earth, The Asteroid Belt and Saturn's Rings all remnants of the late great planet Tiamat?

i'm doing A HELL of allot of research into ALL the Ancient accounts of the world wide cataclysms as recorded by ancient peoples of the world as well as looking into how dinosaurs could have grown so big and moved so quickly when elephants can barely run even tho cave paintings clearly show mammoths galloping.

i'm also looking into accounts of lost civilizations, (Atlantis if you will) recorded battles of "The Gods", the bible, VERY likely manipulation of mans genetic code by aliens and much more besides, and i have found that earths recorded history by modern day scholars should be ashamed of themselves for trying to organize, condense and simplify the history of our solar system, the earth and mans history in to something like:

the solar system formed had a few bumps and bashes from colliding planetoids, the planetoids cooled, single celled organisms formed on earth, the came more complex organisms and then came the stupid dinosaurs who were so stupid that they lived for 100's of millions of years, they all got wiped out because they were so stupid they couldn't hide underground, then came the age of the giant animals and our ancestors, the apes who took to living in damp caves. those apes got bored and took to painting on the walls till they discovered the art of building huts to get away from damp caves. the apes then evolved into modern day man (even tho NO missing link has ever been or likely to be found) who got tired of living in mountainous and wilderness type areas and decided to start writing down fairy tales and making cities and forming civilizations built a few monuments here and there and then we discovered technology and voila, here we are today!
yes i know i have condensed what the scholars are saying (and used allot of sarcasm) but i am convinced, they have got it MASSIVELY (bordering on the criminal and fraud) wrong, and they have to answer for it!!!

i am also convinced that the ancient accounts are absolutely 100% accurate (and there are MANY storys you can look into, including Atlantis, planet X or Nibiru, The Hollow Earth Theory, HUGE underground cities, Giants, The Titans, ancient accounts of atomic warfare as recorded in the bible and the Indian epic-The Mahabharata and MUCH MUCH more) and have been placed in the category of fantasy because earth and mans past is to fantastic to believe because its easier to think we had a nice little ride from nothing to here.

sometimes i laugh when i think how clever modern man thinks he is. that's a joke in itself because if we are so clever, why don't we go out and build for ourselves some of the monuments our ancestors built, such as Machu Pichu or the obvious one...the great pyramid of Giza or move 1000 tone blocks of stone our ancestors moved for fun?!?!

they can have their lies, i want no part in it!!!



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Jesus Crist, seriously? you didn't paraphrase, that was more like ripped off version of earth history for a daytime movie. Honestly, "they all got wiped out because they were so stupid they couldn't hide underground" /facepalm.

Elephant's can barely run??? WTH. Go piss off an elephant and see if you can get away before it crush's you into paste.

You know the original pre cooled earth did split in two, that's where we got the moon from.

sometimes i laugh when i think how clever modern man thinks he is.

This is the only part i agree with

[[KMA]Avenger]

Nibiru could, as was told by the Sumerians...

just found what i was looking for last night:


"if we elevate the moon to planetary status, as the Sumerians appear to have done, then we have a total of 10 planets orbiting the sun today. on this basis 1 planet is currently still missing from the earlier Sumerian total...could their really have been another planet known to the Sumerians, as yet unknown to us or lost since their day?"

-Allan & Delair (Cataclysm)

[Thriller]

Nibiru could, as was told by the Sumerians...

just found what i was looking for last night:


"if we elevate the moon to planetary status, as the Sumerians appear to have done, then we have a total of 10 planets orbiting the sun today. on this basis 1 planet is currently still missing from the earlier Sumerian total...could their really have been another planet known to the Sumerians, as yet unknown to us or lost since their day?"

-Allan & Delair (Cataclysm)

and their could be chocolate at the center of neptune....

[[KMA]Avenger]

Jesus Crist, seriously? you didn't paraphrase, that was more like ripped off version of earth history for a daytime movie. Honestly, "they all got wiped out because they were so stupid they couldn't hide underground" /facepalm.

no, i didn't paraphrase that, and i think i did say i was being sarcastic?!

Elephant's can barely run??? WTH. Go **Filtered** off an elephant and see if you can get away before it crush's you into paste.

i never said an elephant couldn't charge, but when was the last time you saw an elephant run for the hell of it?
i've seen countless hours of nature programs (discovery channel, nat geo and history being my favorite channels), and i have see many animals just up and run for no reason at all, giraffes, hippos, rhinos, wildebeest and all manor of animals just start running for no reason whatsoever, except the elephant.

You know the original pre cooled earth did split in two, that's where we got the moon from.

well, there's allot programing on that 1 as well, 1 program said exactly what you said, another program said the moon is remnant of a planetary impact on the earth, another stated it was coalesced left over material from OUR planet, and yet 1 more that states that our moon is the biggest moon in the entire solar system and therefor is unnatural and must be a construct towed into place and the ship that towed it here is parked on the dark side of the moon down in some crater...

take your pick from that lot and a 100 more theories besides




chocolate at the center of Neptune eh?

you seriously believe that?

[Thriller]

i never said an elephant couldn't charge, but when was the last time you saw an elephant run for the hell of it?
i've seen countless hours of nature programs (discovery channel, nat geo and history being my favorite channels), and i have see many animals just up and run for no reason at all, giraffes, hippos, rhinos, wildebeest and all manor of animals just start running for no reason whatsoever, except the elephant.

They run okay... it happens.They even stampede occasionally. Doesn't matter if they need a reason or not..

well, there's allot programing on that 1 as well, 1 program said exactly what you said, another program said the moon is remnant of a planetary impact on the earth, another stated it was coalesced left over material from OUR planet, and yet 1 more that states that our moon is the biggest moon in the entire solar system and therefor is unnatural and must be a construct towed into place and the ship that towed it here is parked on the dark side of the moon down in some crater...

You have the ability to discern which one seems to be the most credible and the first three things you mentioned basically result in the same thing; just explain it differently.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i'm only telling what i've seen on the subject, i have no concrete opinions of the moon 1 way or the other.

[Thriller]

i'm only telling what i've seen on the subject, i have no concrete opinions of the moon 1 way or the other.

okay.. plz just admit elephants run.

[[KMA]Avenger]

ok, elephants can run if you piss them off, but never for the hell of it and not for any great distance...

but please explain to me how a predator weighing upwards of 5 tonnes can run at over 35 MPH, as the "experts" claim was the case with the T-rex.

[Thriller]

look at the size and thickness of its leg bones, it either ran of did a lot of tai bo

[[KMA]Avenger]

i go with tai bo

[Thriller]

really? i pictured you as more of a jazzersize kinda guy..

[[KMA]Avenger]

now you've lost me, never heard of that 1!

anyways, i would think predators of that size would have huge bone structure when you consider they weigh 5 tonne and up, still doesn't mean they could run at those speeds.

any chance we can get off this merry-go-round and get back to the topic at hand which was the 5th planet?

P.S.

i never said i took either tai bo or Whatchamacallit

[RepliMagni]

i am also convinced that the ancient accounts are absolutely 100% accurate (and there are MANY storys you can look into, including Atlantis, planet X or Nibiru, The Hollow Earth Theory, HUGE underground cities, Giants, The Titans, ancient accounts of atomic warfare as recorded in the bible and the Indian epic-The Mahabharata and MUCH MUCH more) and have been placed in the category of fantasy because earth and mans past is to fantastic to believe because its easier to think we had a nice little ride from nothing to here.

sometimes i laugh when i think how clever modern man thinks he is. that's a joke in itself because if we are so clever, why don't we go out and build for ourselves some of the monuments our ancestors built, such as Machu Pichu or the obvious one...the great pyramid of Giza or move 1000 tone blocks of stone our ancestors moved for fun?!?!

they can have their lies, i want no part in it!!!

You believe Giants once walked the Earth? Yes, there are stories, especially from early cultures in Ireland and England.....but they are stories. Think of it this way....if in a thousand years only the most common books now in existence survive, will people in the future believe that we trained to be wizards at Hogwarts? Where are the remains of these giants?

You think the Great Pyramids couldn't have been built by our human ancestors? Why? Have you been? There are hundreds of pyramids, all of varying sizes, quality, dates....it is quite easy to trace their evolution from the Step Pyramid onwards. Indeed, what about Karnak, Luxor, Philiae? Have you witnessed modern Egyptians using the same techniques as ancient Egyptians? Seen men move impossible weights through the use of very simple mechanics......erect obelisques, split entire stones with just a hammer? It is perfectly possible and plausible. Angkor Wat, Machu Pichu, the Pyramids, Babylon....none of it is beyond our ancestors.

I find it hard to believe you genuinely think some of this stuff.....well, I'd be rather concerned if you did

[Juliette]

Nibiru could, as was told by the Sumerians...

just found what i was looking for last night:


"if we elevate the moon to planetary status, as the Sumerians appear to have done, then we have a total of 10 planets orbiting the sun today. on this basis 1 planet is currently still missing from the earlier Sumerian total...could their really have been another planet known to the Sumerians, as yet unknown to us or lost since their day?"

-Allan & Delair (Cataclysm)

Except, there is no sound logic in that.

Jim and Jill said there are 3 kinds of humans. Men, women, and children.
Currently we see only men and women, and children as part of both groups.
So we are still lacking 1 kind of human, since Jim and Jill specified 3 kinds of humans exist.
Therefore, there must exist another kind of human, yet unknown to us.


Hell, whatever idiot said we have 9 planets at the moment. Allan and Delair must suck, because of that statement.. (*grins* At least they cannot accuse me of having a flawed logic, their own logic being flawed..) We have 8.
So we're missing 2.

Sucks for us.

[[KMA]Avenger]

you can have a look here for reference concerning giants.

viewtopic.php?f=167&t=125448&start=0



as for our ancestors building the ancient sites, i don't doubt that human hands built these wondrous structures, the only thing i doubt concerning them is where the knowledge came from given that our ancestors themselves said the knowledge came from "The Gods" (Aliens).

if you look at the official line, the Egyptians walked out of the desert and within a short span of time mastered building magnificent monuments we cant replicate today (regardless of what the experts say), astrology and high levels of mathematics and a whole host of other sciences and skills...

does this sound plausible to you?