Are You Undescendable?

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Are You Undescendable?

Hi I was wondering, how did some people make their ascended accounts fully undescendable?

Here's my take on this, please bear with me :)

Assume you have 300mil life force reserves.
Assume your enemy can do the max damage to you, 1/3 of your life force reserves so you lose 100mil each strike.

Then you have 3 hours to recover that 100mil that was lost. That means 6 turns to recover 100mil life force reserves.

In that case, you'll need to have your energy flow high enough so that you gain around 17mil life force in reserves per turn.

I was wondering if that was correct or if I'm missing some other factors in this. I hope I am cos that's still pretty high... especially since it'll only go up as your ascended level goes up.

Thanks all, sorry to force maths on you! :)
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

300mill reserves is quite low, most people have over 1bill. Once there get your personal def levels over 700 and most people won't even bother trying to descend you.
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Oh this wasn't about me :P I was just calulating just in case there's a crazy person out there with a psychotic strike :P
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Well another tactic is having a large reserve, like 1 or 2 trill life force. As long as you log in every 9 to 12 hrs to refill its rather pointless.
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

get your personal constitution to level 2000 if you want to be truly undescendable just do not ask me how to get that much DMU :lol: :lol:
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Or if you don't want to play ascended server but still don't want to be descendable...

Don't upgrade max life force, but spend ALL your LFC on flow and channeling so you can repair your being in 1 turn :D
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

[spoiler]Ascended Life Force Reserves 1,356,685,948 / 1,344,045,000
Ascended Life Force 89,603,000 / 89,603,000
Ascended Life Force Cache 275,307,364,861
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 33,227,779 Ascended Life Force
Reserve / Cache Rate Per Turn While at Maximum
(LF fills first(fast), then reserves(slower), then cache(slowest) 16,053,871 / 8,026,935 Ascended Life Force

Total Offensive Capacity 258,952,670
Total Defensive Capacity (per 100 damage) 57.75
You can bounce back 35% of the damage directed at you, before it reaches you.
You will only take 65.00% of the damage that reaches you.[/spoiler]

Is that close enough?
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Umm hope you dont take this the wrong way Universe, I mean those are some seriously killer personal stats but technically... still not undescendable

*runs to corner* please dont mass me!!

In the 3 hours between attacks, you gain almost 200million LF reserves (that's a heckload!!)
But if someone had some crazy powerful strike, you'd lose almost 450million LF reserves per hit. (Assuming someone somehow has such a killer strike even after all your defenses kick in :? )

It'd probably take many hits to descend you for sure but if you left your account alone for a few days, it could be done. You know what I mean? I dont mean any disrespect or nothing :) realistically speaking, I dont think anyone will be able to descend you anyway ;) But I'm thinking about total cover :P

I think I'll just put everything into energy channelling. Maybe I can get it high enough to become undescendable for sure :) or go with putting 2000 in energy repulsion :P

On the other hand, if you log in every 6-9 hours anyway, you'll never be descended (just refill your life force reserves lol) I only bring this up cos someone much larger than me tried descending me a few months back. Epic fail cos I kept logging in every 9 hours, hitting someone else to block thier next attack buying me an extra 3 hours etc but if I overslept, oh boy, I would've been descended lol

Thanks everyone for a nice and healthy discussion :D
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Repulsion would be an waste. You still take the damage you just throw it back at them after it hits you. And channeling is an waste also because you need something like level 3500 of it to be effective
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Universe wrote:[spoiler]Ascended Life Force Reserves 1,356,685,948 / 1,344,045,000
Ascended Life Force 89,603,000 / 89,603,000
Ascended Life Force Cache 275,307,364,861
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 33,227,779 Ascended Life Force
Reserve / Cache Rate Per Turn While at Maximum
(LF fills first(fast), then reserves(slower), then cache(slowest) 16,053,871 / 8,026,935 Ascended Life Force

Total Offensive Capacity 258,952,670
Total Defensive Capacity (per 100 damage) 57.75
You can bounce back 35% of the damage directed at you, before it reaches you.
You will only take 65.00% of the damage that reaches you.[/spoiler]

Is that close enough?


I just calculated what strike they'd need to have in order to be able to descend you in like 3-4 turns...

A strike of around 1.4billion.

Does anyone have a personal strike that high in the game?? That's a seriously powerful strike, just wondering if anyone has something that high...
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

I'd say thats a definate no.
The trade broker reports trade from Surtr to *Teesdale_ of 100,000,000 Naq for 33,000,000,000,000 Naq is complete.


Barbara! says: haha ok you can have a piece of my soul for 50bil naq

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[21:06:24] Duderanch: Yeah Ben said did but can't untrin miners so no point
[21:06:37] Jake/Tees: sweet, so methlad not be able to fight back :D
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Your calculation is off by an lot :lol: :lol: :lol: The TOC to do it in 4 hits is 538,570,031.875
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

did you take into account her repulsion and constitution? :P

So no one has a 1bil strike right? :) I hope not lol
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Re: Are You Undescendable?

Am Heh wrote:Repulsion would be an waste. You still take the damage you just throw it back at them after it hits you. And channeling is an waste also because you need something like level 3500 of it to be effective


Sorry to necro the thread but:
Energy Repulsion Level
(you can bounce back xx% of the damage directed at you, before it reaches you)


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Re: Are You Undescendable?

I`m Undescendable, dont ask me how i did it. XD
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